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Fwd: [sudoroom] **CRITICAL** Update for 2135 broadway (Folks Meeting at 5PM tonight at Awaken Cafe)

by Eddan Katz

Begin forwarded message: > From: Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [sudoroom] **CRITICAL** Update for 2135 broadway (Folks Meeting at 5PM tonight at Awaken Cafe) > Date: June 2, 2012 10:14:20 AM PDT > To: sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org > > Matt, Eddan, and Timon, > > Thank you for your efforts on this! It's so surprising when things happen fast all of a sudden... > > Before I get into thoughts about the space, following up on Matt's suggestion, we'll be Awaken Cafe downtown starting at 5PM to meet up. If you can make it, come by. If a different time tonight works better for you, send an email to the list. > > > Regarding the space itself, what a fantastic opportunity! This is an absolutely ideal location, is accessible, has a friendly landlord, has month to month rent, is within our estimated budget, has wifi, has a street-facing option, and offers future flexibility to move into more spaces and/or between spaces. > > My feeling is that the "box office" option (plus perhaps one of the upstairs rooms and regular access to the classroom) is an excellent starter opportunity for beginning to work on the kinds of things that everyone actually wants to do. > > I also think that there are two benefits to having the space beyond actually having the space: > > 1) A visible space brings in new potential members (and more potential money) > 2) A space helps all of us sudoers to maintain energy, momentum, and interest with something to focus on and work to maintain - it creates "facts on the ground," so to speak. > > Finally, if we wait for the perfect space, it may never come. This spot fits the initial sudo "room" concept we've been thinking about the last few months (it's short-term, flexible, small initial capital required, and allows for expansion). > > I really support it. > > Look forward to seeing all of you tonight at 5 at awaken cafe downtown if you can make it, and if not, tomorrow at the scouting event at 2PM at OG Plaza (bring bike if you have it). > > - Marina > > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Jenny Ryan <jenny(a)thepyre.org> wrote: > Matt, and also Eddan & Timon - thanks for moving on this! I think this could be a fantastic initial space for Sudo Room.. > > Location is great, though 150 square feet is absurdly small. How big is the classroom we could use? > > Overpriced for the size, imho, but the visibility we could definitely work wrt outreach for the group... though with the rest of the building's amenities available to us, might be a good bet. > > Would love to meet on Saturday, though would have to be early afternoon for me to make it (send-off party for our yurt builder & current resident, Morten, in our garden on Saturday starting around 4! email me if you'd like to come :) > > Jenny > http://jennyryan.net > http://thepyre.org > http://thevirtualcampfire.org > http://technomadic.tumblr.com > > `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` > "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." > -Laurie Anderson > > "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." > -Hannah Arendt > > "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." > -Stéphane Mallarmé > ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` > > > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Eddie A Tejeda <eddie.tejeda(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Matt.. thanks for leading this. I think this is a great opportunity. If I understand this correctly, there are multiple spaces available and we can start with one and move into other ones as needed? If that's the case I think it makes perfect sense to start with the smaller space and grow as needed. > > I also this it's a cool location. When do you need to make the decision by? > > -- > Eddie A Tejeda > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 11:48 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Howdy Folks, > > We've been in search of a space. There are lots of options, and bigger, brighter futures rest on the horizon. > > On Weds, Eddan found this listing on craigslist: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/3036298243.html seen here: https://maps.google.com/?q=loc:+Broadway+at+22nd+Street+Oakland+CA+US&ll=37… > > > I gave George, the property manager, a call. I had seen some other offices in his space months before, he has lots of spaces and they come up for rent often. All month-to-month contracts, and a lease if we really want one He said he was available today at 3pm. I showed up and Eddan and Timon joined in. > > > We saw three offices. I have photographs stored on a proprietary memory device and will retrieve them ASAP upon apprehension of the proper cable. > > 1. $500 / month 350 sq ft - The LISTED ROOM - has WiFi access, on the ground floor, outlets, lights. It is a good deal for the size, but it is not very close to the street. One must walk through a hallway, through a half-office, and down another hallway (all disability accessible) to get to it. This is not bad, just a bit removed from public view. > > 2. $400 / month (no exact measure, but about 150 sq. ft). - The BOX OFFICE (calling it that for short). Has a window, is just a few feet inside public-facing street-level doors in the same area as the LISTED ROOM. Also has WiFi Access. Sits directly outside a shared building "classroom" area available to all renters, just sign up ahead of time. If we rent the BOX OFFICE, we can occasionally use the LISTED ROOM while it's open > > 3. $350 / month (no exact measure, but no bigger than 400 sq ft) - The DOUBLE OFFICE is upstairs, at the very top of the entrance steps. It has access to an unused, common "reception" area that would be available for our usage. It has cable and wifi internet access. The DOUBLE OFFICE includes two offices that are connected, side-by-side. The rear door has > > All rooms have access to the "classroom" area on the ground floor, just need to sign up as described above. The building just got faster WIFI service provided by Sonic.net installed recently. George is interested in providing line-access to internet in all ground floor offices in the future, we could also do this ourselves he offered. > > Also, we can potentially rent multiple of these spaces, or move from one to other available spaces in the building at a later time. > > In order to move forward with this space (and not to lose footing), I have a proposal: > > Sudo Room should consider "dipping" it's toe into the BOX OFFICE space (no. 2 above) by investing a portion of our fund-raiser funds of $200 first month (50% off for move-in), $400 obligatory for last month (which can be july if we wish), and a redeemable $400 deposit--at a grand total of $1,000, lasting to at least July. This would only commit us to two months in the space, the first month of which (June) we can sort out all the precise governance, tax, and income issues, by consensus, in order to move forward (remain, expand, or move) with this space and our future! > > I propose we hold a discussion on this email thread, use our other online tools, convene an in-person meetup on Saturday (anywhere that's available), consider all the issues and list them on the wiki, convene briefly again on Sunday with whoever can make the "scout session" (still on), and plan to move forward on Monday having begun due diligence to consider if we have the blessings of our community! > > Please add notes in reply to this thread, on this pad (for anonymous communication too): https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudoroom and ultimately we'll put everything on the Wiki on Saturday to sort out by Monday. > > On clarifying note: it seems to me that it would be prudent to maintain the Sunday "scouting" event for due diligence reasons, and for future option reasons! > > // Matt > > p.s. Note that time is crucial because other folks (including some we bumped into while on tour) are also looking at these spaces, and with the first of the month approaching, it is in the property manager's best interest to move folks in soon. > > _______________________________________________ > sudoroom mailing list > sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org > http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom > > > > > -- > Eddie A Tejeda > > > _______________________________________________ > sudoroom mailing list > sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org > http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom > > > > _______________________________________________ > sudoroom mailing list > sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org > http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom > > > _______________________________________________ > sudoroom mailing list > sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org > http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom

10 years, 4 months

Fwd: [sudoroom] Lease for 2141 Broadway + Meeting Minutes

by Eddan Katz

Begin forwarded message: > From: "Matthew Senate" <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [sudoroom] Lease for 2141 Broadway + Meeting Minutes > Date: November 7, 2012 11:17:25 PM PST > To: "sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org" <sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org> > > At tonight's meeting, we discussed the online vote results with a 16 - 1 favor toward signing a lease for the upstairs "art studio" space in 2141 Broadway. Further, we came to consensus with attending members in support of signing the lease as well. > > We are waiting to hear any comment from the one dissenter who we have not identified, and to whom we would like to reach out. > > I sent a message to George and Laurie and Laurie responded saying we will have a lease to examine by tomorrow evening. They prefer, if we do sign, that those listed on the Doing-Business-As (fictitious business name) sign the lease, which would be myself and Eddan. Thus, it seems reasonable to me that we should be able to change signatories for the DBA transfer the lease at the discretion of Sudo Room. > > Eddan, if necessary, would you be interested in signing on behalf of Sudo Room with me? > > // Matt > > p.s. Meeting notes: > > 11/7/12 > > Attendees: Matt, Andrew, Frederik, Jenny, Hol, Anthony, Len, Ryanb, Jae, Erik, Eddan, Jehan, Aestetix > > Announcements: > -OpenOakland! Meeting at City Hall (rm. 3) every Tuesday at 6:30 > -OaklandWiki Bike Photo Tour of street art and public art this Saturday at Tech Liminal - bring a camera and a notepad: http://www.eventbrite.com/event/4720129033# > -Workshop Weekend this weekend! Nov 10-11 @ Sudo Room, Tech Liminal and more! http://workshopweekend.com > > Budget Discussion > - Proposal 1 > > -Jenny suggests Sudo Working Groups for internal autonomous decision-making (eg; renting the box office) > -Hol brings up the possibility of including semi-private workspaces > -Eddan expresses discomfort with there being any private ownership in the common spaces, and suggests that > --->Redevelopment office in Old Oakland gives loans to local developments > -Jae: Member shelves in the art room? Erik concurs > -Peer production requires open spaces that negate the possibility for special treatment (eddan) > -Ongoing projects in the space could have space reserved for them so long as they report regularly (weekly?) on the mailing list (matt) > -Let's get this space- and then a big warehouse woo! (erik) > -Andrew suggests not a reservation system by commerce but rather, project-specific areas reserved for a limited time by consensus > -Space allotment SYSTEM (rather than rules..) > > -Eddan suggests breaking up the discussion into its components, as the UN does > - > -Jehan suggests GitTipcom > -Set up an instructable for setting up direct deposits between one's bank and the Sudo Room account > -There is a reason to resist having a tax structure, and we have successfully avoided (thus far) the pressure to procure a federal tax ID > -Proposal for hacking on our compact and budget-making process, as well as new member onboarding process - Nov. 16th at > > _______________________________________________ > sudoroom mailing list > sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org > http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom

10 years, 4 months

Fwd: [sudoroom] Update on space @ 2141 Broadway

by Eddan Katz

Forwarding discussions and decisions made on the sudo-discuss list about 2141 Broadway for the last year and a half for relevant reference. Begin forwarded message: > From: "Jenny Ryan" <jenny(a)thepyre.org> > Subject: [sudoroom] Update on space @ 2141 Broadway > Date: October 21, 2012 7:05:34 PM PDT > To: Sudoroom <sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org> > > Hi folks, > > I've created a wiki page with detailed info about the spaces available at 2141 Broadway. Details here: http://sudoroom.org/wiki/2141_Broadway > > Major caveat/potential opportunity: A solar company has evidently earned George's favor for the rental of the front area (not really shown in the photos, but it's the front room with the big windows overlooking Broadway) and the far side office room (also not shown). They are open to sharing the large common area, but clearly we should establish a rapport and make sure they're chill before moving ahead on the space. Bonus: this would bring energy costs for the building down to null, as they'd be installing solar panels on the roof. > > I'm also composing an email invite to friends and neighbors we'd like to share a space with. The subject is 'Toward a Federation of East Bay Hackerspaces," because regardless of whether any of these groups decide to share this particular space with us, I think having regular conversations around how we can support each other's endeavors and work together to provide a holistic hacker-friendly environment for the entirety of the East Bay is essential. > > Currently on the invite list: > -LOLspace > -Coyote Counter Collective > -John (Berkeley fella who makes wheelchairs and specializes in mobility equipment hacking/repair) > -Biohacker friends > -Hackermoms > -Ace Monster Toys > -The Holdout > -Noisebridge (callout to NBers living in the East Bay) > -AnarchaFeminist Hacker Hive > > **Need contact info for: Fixit Clinic** > > The federation meetup will happen this Saturday, Oct 27th at noon. The front door to 2141 will be propped open, and we will gather in the space itself - up the stairs and through the door on the left. > > Plz post thoughts, opinions, ideas to this thread, or join us in #sudoroom on Freenode IRC (web portal here: http://sudoroom.org/chat). > > Be well, > Jenny > http://jennyryan.net > http://thepyre.org > http://thevirtualcampfire.org > http://technomadic.tumblr.com > > `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` > "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." > -Laurie Anderson > > "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." > -Hannah Arendt > > "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." > -Stéphane Mallarmé > ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` > > _______________________________________________ > sudoroom mailing list > sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org > http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom

10 years, 4 months

Re: [sudo-hall] [sudospaces] Sudo Hall

by Matthew Senate

Was this meeting scheduled? // Matt On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:43 PM, mattsenate(a)gmail.com <mattsenate(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Friday works. > > // Matt > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: "Eddan Katz" <eddan(a)sudoroom.tv> > To: "mattsenate(a)gmail.com" <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> > Cc: "Romy Ilano" <romy(a)snowyla.com>, <sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org>, < > hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org> > Subject: [sudospaces] Sudo Hall > Date: Tue, Dec 3, 2013 13:42 > > > I can't do Thursday. Unless it's morning. > Fri. OK. > We can also schedule a particular time in the evening, though he doesn't > stick around too late. > > On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:36 PM, "mattsenate(a)gmail.com" <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > How about Thursday? > > // Matt > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: "Eddan Katz" <eddan(a)sudoroom.tv> > To: "Romy Ilano" <romy(a)snowyla.com> > Cc: "sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org>, " > hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org> > Subject: [sudospaces] Sudo Hall > Date: Tue, Dec 3, 2013 13:10 > > > update -- > George said he was available to meet in the late afternoon any day this > week to talk about possibilities for rental/purchase/co-op for the whole > Sudo wing of the building. > I wanted to know if anyone else was interested in joining this > conversation. > Wednesday would be most convenient for me. > > -- > In regards to the use of hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org - here are some > preliminary ideas I had: > Increase transparency. > It would be useful to get some ideas kicked around about how to possibly > structure this and see what Sudo Hall can try and bargain for in terms of > gradual increase in rent and other innovative incentives such as those > PopUp Oakland have been negotiating for on behalf of their community > partners. > Get a reasonable sense of timelines and flesh out what is involved in more > complicated arrangements - such as the equity sale to institutional > (groups) membership as a cooperative corporation. > > > On Dec 2, 2013, at 9:39 PM, Romy Ilano <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote: > > Thanks Eddan, I've subscribed to sudohall. > > I think it is nice to have a more serious list - the discussions on > sudoDiscuss are not so action-oriented. > > > On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:53 AM, eddan.com <eddan(a)sudoroom.tv> wrote: > >> Dear Sudo folk. >> >> Our landlords have expressed their frustration that our current use of >> the common area has deterred their ability to rent out the other units in >> the Sudo wing of 2141 Broadway. >> >> Apparently, Robert Wenzel - the other tenant (other than the Bay Area >> Public School), who preceded all of our occupancy of the space at 2141 >> Broadway, has moved his office in frustration over the common area, in >> particular as a result of people consistently sleeping there. >> >> The use of the common area as space being sub-leased to groups >> unconnected with the current tenants has also been a cause of >> miscommunication over our current lease. While our landlords are in full >> support of our making it a popular community space, our current practices >> have diverged from their hopes of how they want the space to be used. >> >> For those who are interested in exploring possibilities for >> renting/buying/creating a coop at the current location, a listserv has been >> created to facilitate the development of such a plan under the interim >> codename Sudo Hall. Please feel free to sign up at: >> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/hall >> >> The objective of this forum is to complement the research and discussion >> that has been ongoing regarding spaces suitable for Sudo Room activities >> and of interest to the Sudo Room constellation of communities. The >> sudospaces list can continue to be (or begin to be, more accurately) the >> appropriate venue for sharing such information and enabling coordination to >> take advantage of the opportunities that come up. >> >> Given our lease renewal deadline of the end of the year, I imagine that >> the new Sudo Hall list can reduce the overlapping confusion of coalescing >> like-minded groups for shared and common purposes; and the exploration of >> physical spaces where this collective of collectives finds its home(s). >> >> Amongst the communities I am personally most interested in reaching in >> the immediate term are those who could make best use of the >> dance/yoga/pilates studio space with the wooden floor in between Sudo Room >> and the Bay Area Public School. >> >> It is my hope that the prudent use of these two lists for their >> complementary purposes can minimize friction between competing interests >> and ideas and rather serve to enable cooperative planning in a transparent >> way while not interfering with all the projects that are ongoing. The >> general community can be updated (through sudo-discuss) at critical >> junctures in the evolution of developing plans. >> >> >> >> sent from eddan.com >> _______________________________________________ >> sudospaces mailing list >> sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudospaces >> > > > >

10 years, 4 months

Re: [sudo-hall] [sudospaces] Sudo Hall

by mattsenate＠gmail.com

Friday works. // Matt ----- Reply message ----- From: "Eddan Katz" <eddan(a)sudoroom.tv> To: "mattsenate(a)gmail.com" <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> Cc: "Romy Ilano" <romy(a)snowyla.com>, <sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org>, <hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org> Subject: [sudospaces] Sudo Hall Date: Tue, Dec 3, 2013 13:42 I can't do Thursday. Unless it's morning.Fri. OK. We can also schedule a particular time in the evening, though he doesn't stick around too late. On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:36 PM, "mattsenate(a)gmail.com" <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> wrote:How about Thursday? // Matt ----- Reply message ----- From: "Eddan Katz" <eddan(a)sudoroom.tv> To: "Romy Ilano" <romy(a)snowyla.com> Cc: "sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org>, "hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org> Subject: [sudospaces] Sudo Hall Date: Tue, Dec 3, 2013 13:10 update --George said he was available to meet in the late afternoon any day this week to talk about possibilities for rental/purchase/co-op for the whole Sudo wing of the building.I wanted to know if anyone else was interested in joining this conversation.Wednesday would be most convenient for me. --In regards to the use of hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org - here are some preliminary ideas I had:Increase transparency.It would be useful to get some ideas kicked around about how to possibly structure this and see what Sudo Hall can try and bargain for in terms of gradual increase in rent and other innovative incentives such as those PopUp Oakland have been negotiating for on behalf of their community partners. Get a reasonable sense of timelines and flesh out what is involved in more complicated arrangements - such as the equity sale to institutional (groups) membership as a cooperative corporation. On Dec 2, 2013, at 9:39 PM, Romy Ilano <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:Thanks Eddan, I've subscribed to sudohall. I think it is nice to have a more serious list - the discussions on sudoDiscuss are not so action-oriented. On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:53 AM, eddan.com <eddan(a)sudoroom.tv> wrote: Dear Sudo folk. Our landlords have expressed their frustration that our current use of the common area has deterred their ability to rent out the other units in the Sudo wing of 2141 Broadway. Apparently, Robert Wenzel - the other tenant (other than the Bay Area Public School), who preceded all of our occupancy of the space at 2141 Broadway, has moved his office in frustration over the common area, in particular as a result of people consistently sleeping there. The use of the common area as space being sub-leased to groups unconnected with the current tenants has also been a cause of miscommunication over our current lease. While our landlords are in full support of our making it a popular community space, our current practices have diverged from their hopes of how they want the space to be used. For those who are interested in exploring possibilities for renting/buying/creating a coop at the current location, a listserv has been created to facilitate the development of such a plan under the interim codename Sudo Hall. Please feel free to sign up at: http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/hall The objective of this forum is to complement the research and discussion that has been ongoing regarding spaces suitable for Sudo Room activities and of interest to the Sudo Room constellation of communities. The sudospaces list can continue to be (or begin to be, more accurately) the appropriate venue for sharing such information and enabling coordination to take advantage of the opportunities that come up. Given our lease renewal deadline of the end of the year, I imagine that the new Sudo Hall list can reduce the overlapping confusion of coalescing like-minded groups for shared and common purposes; and the exploration of physical spaces where this collective of collectives finds its home(s). Amongst the communities I am personally most interested in reaching in the immediate term are those who could make best use of the dance/yoga/pilates studio space with the wooden floor in between Sudo Room and the Bay Area Public School. It is my hope that the prudent use of these two lists for their complementary purposes can minimize friction between competing interests and ideas and rather serve to enable cooperative planning in a transparent way while not interfering with all the projects that are ongoing. The general community can be updated (through sudo-discuss) at critical junctures in the evolution of developing plans. sent from eddan.com _______________________________________________ sudospaces mailing list sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudospaces

10 years, 4 months

Re: [sudo-hall] [sudospaces] Sudo Hall

by mattsenate＠gmail.com

How about Thursday? // Matt ----- Reply message ----- From: "Eddan Katz" <eddan(a)sudoroom.tv> To: "Romy Ilano" <romy(a)snowyla.com> Cc: "sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org>, "hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org> Subject: [sudospaces] Sudo Hall Date: Tue, Dec 3, 2013 13:10 update --George said he was available to meet in the late afternoon any day this week to talk about possibilities for rental/purchase/co-op for the whole Sudo wing of the building.I wanted to know if anyone else was interested in joining this conversation.Wednesday would be most convenient for me. --In regards to the use of hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org - here are some preliminary ideas I had:Increase transparency.It would be useful to get some ideas kicked around about how to possibly structure this and see what Sudo Hall can try and bargain for in terms of gradual increase in rent and other innovative incentives such as those PopUp Oakland have been negotiating for on behalf of their community partners. Get a reasonable sense of timelines and flesh out what is involved in more complicated arrangements - such as the equity sale to institutional (groups) membership as a cooperative corporation. On Dec 2, 2013, at 9:39 PM, Romy Ilano <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:Thanks Eddan, I've subscribed to sudohall. I think it is nice to have a more serious list - the discussions on sudoDiscuss are not so action-oriented. On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:53 AM, eddan.com <eddan(a)sudoroom.tv> wrote: Dear Sudo folk. Our landlords have expressed their frustration that our current use of the common area has deterred their ability to rent out the other units in the Sudo wing of 2141 Broadway. Apparently, Robert Wenzel - the other tenant (other than the Bay Area Public School), who preceded all of our occupancy of the space at 2141 Broadway, has moved his office in frustration over the common area, in particular as a result of people consistently sleeping there. The use of the common area as space being sub-leased to groups unconnected with the current tenants has also been a cause of miscommunication over our current lease. While our landlords are in full support of our making it a popular community space, our current practices have diverged from their hopes of how they want the space to be used. For those who are interested in exploring possibilities for renting/buying/creating a coop at the current location, a listserv has been created to facilitate the development of such a plan under the interim codename Sudo Hall. Please feel free to sign up at: http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/hall The objective of this forum is to complement the research and discussion that has been ongoing regarding spaces suitable for Sudo Room activities and of interest to the Sudo Room constellation of communities. The sudospaces list can continue to be (or begin to be, more accurately) the appropriate venue for sharing such information and enabling coordination to take advantage of the opportunities that come up. Given our lease renewal deadline of the end of the year, I imagine that the new Sudo Hall list can reduce the overlapping confusion of coalescing like-minded groups for shared and common purposes; and the exploration of physical spaces where this collective of collectives finds its home(s). Amongst the communities I am personally most interested in reaching in the immediate term are those who could make best use of the dance/yoga/pilates studio space with the wooden floor in between Sudo Room and the Bay Area Public School. It is my hope that the prudent use of these two lists for their complementary purposes can minimize friction between competing interests and ideas and rather serve to enable cooperative planning in a transparent way while not interfering with all the projects that are ongoing. The general community can be updated (through sudo-discuss) at critical junctures in the evolution of developing plans. sent from eddan.com _______________________________________________ sudospaces mailing list sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudospaces

10 years, 4 months

Sudo Hall

by eddan.com

Dear Sudo folk. Our landlords have expressed their frustration that our current use of the common area has deterred their ability to rent out the other units in the Sudo wing of 2141 Broadway. Apparently, Robert Wenzel - the other tenant (other than the Bay Area Public School), who preceded all of our occupancy of the space at 2141 Broadway, has moved his office in frustration over the common area, in particular as a result of people consistently sleeping there. The use of the common area as space being sub-leased to groups unconnected with the current tenants has also been a cause of miscommunication over our current lease. While our landlords are in full support of our making it a popular community space, our current practices have diverged from their hopes of how they want the space to be used. For those who are interested in exploring possibilities for renting/buying/creating a coop at the current location, a listserv has been created to facilitate the development of such a plan under the interim codename Sudo Hall. Please feel free to sign up at: http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/hall The objective of this forum is to complement the research and discussion that has been ongoing regarding spaces suitable for Sudo Room activities and of interest to the Sudo Room constellation of communities. The sudospaces list can continue to be (or begin to be, more accurately) the appropriate venue for sharing such information and enabling coordination to take advantage of the opportunities that come up. Given our lease renewal deadline of the end of the year, I imagine that the new Sudo Hall list can reduce the overlapping confusion of coalescing like-minded groups for shared and common purposes; and the exploration of physical spaces where this collective of collectives finds its home(s). Amongst the communities I am personally most interested in reaching in the immediate term are those who could make best use of the dance/yoga/pilates studio space with the wooden floor in between Sudo Room and the Bay Area Public School. It is my hope that the prudent use of these two lists for their complementary purposes can minimize friction between competing interests and ideas and rather serve to enable cooperative planning in a transparent way while not interfering with all the projects that are ongoing. The general community can be updated (through sudo-discuss) at critical junctures in the evolution of developing plans. sent from eddan.com

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