does anyone know the folks who work on this publication and initiative?
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of interest regarding Uptown Neighborhood & the "Plaid Friday" experiment commentary.
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Begin forwarded message:
> From: Eddan <eddan(a)clear.net>
> Subject: Sudo Art - meeting notes - 12/15/2012
> Date: February 27, 2013 2:27:59 PM PST
> To: artmurmur(a)lists.sudoroom.org
> Bcc: eddank(a)gmail.com
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> Below are the notes I took from the State of the Room weekend meeting on Sudo Art, also to give background on the issues and suggestions that have been discussed before.
>
> ---
>
> Sudo Art. Planning meeting 12/15.
>
> Order of discussion:
> 1. What we've done so far.
> 2. What we've got at this point.
> 3. What we Need to Do?
> 4. What is the Organization & Governance?
>
> On what we've done so far --
> 1- Circle thing with Max. circle packing.
> 2- Press Conference
> 3- Announcement of Intent to Exist
> 4- How Mnay People Can You Fit in a 100 sq. ft. room.
> 5- tracy display kinetic sculptures
> 6- Jae Kwon working the 3d printer
>
> On what we need to do:
> 1 - sign up for Art Murmur officially
> 2 - Raise money to paay for the fee.
> 3 - Figure out what to do with downstairs/fishbowl
> 4 - Talk to George about his plans.
>
> What is the organization & Governance?
> Dynamic Association -- Members can change from month-to-month
> Need 3 jobs - exchequer, scribe, & facilitator
> ideal size 6-8 people willing to sign up.
> time frame for when to do it.
> suggest a theme by Sudo Room.
>
> Sudo Art collective artists discussion-
> Only showing art that is part of the collective?
> this would need structure.
> Advantages of having a small group go in on the Sudo Art.
> split cost for space
> for paying Art Murmur (or joining)
> Need to figure out advantages & disadvantages of joining Art Murmur.
> Wine & cheese - some for that.
> get local restaurants to serve & advertise.
> Mobile payment - Pogo.
> Different model - rotate curator. w/ these people.
> When the curator is really good.
> We can also have lots of Internet art.
>
> on Artist payment
> Mission co-op on Valencia - what's already been done.
> artists keep something like the 70%. 1 shift per month per person taht takes a cut on the side. 10% house. 20% seller.
>
> Sudo proposals:
> Press a button if you like something & a portion of proceeds go to the author of the work or the artist that did it.
> People pay a flat fee & then it gets distributed
>
> How should we get these 6-8 people?
> Critical here is curation.
> should not be too controlled.
> Dynamic Association of Displayed Art - separate Sudo Art, co-owners.
> curators - people who decide on what goes in there each month.
> Connect to the Art World.
> email describing it and the invitation to be forwarded around.
> Tweet out to people who are artists.
>
> MIscellaneous:
> 6-8 people as rotating gallery curators.
> Signage - Get the logo on the building!
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] 2141 Broadway Co-Op?
> Date: October 4, 2013 6:17:38 PM PDT
> To: Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net>
> Cc: "sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org>, rhodey <rhodey(a)anhonesteffort.org>
>
> I would propose that the best way to move forward is to get a group together who is willing to put some work in to making this happen and then as that group, which would probablly have to file as an llc or somthing simular, begin negotiations with Goerge.
>
> I dont really see this as a sudo room specific thing more that sudo room could lease from the 2141 co-op once it owns that portion of the building.
>
> -Andrew
>
> On Oct 3, 2013 1:36 PM, "Eddan Katz" <eddan(a)clear.net> wrote:
> As I mentioned on my phone-in to the meeting last night, there were no numbers discussed at any point, neither regarding sale nor shares nor rental.
> Not sure how it would make sense to try and figure it out, but I would guess some of you number-crunchers can propose some share/sq. ft. metric.
>
> On Oct 3, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Max Klein <isalix(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I would like to also talk about co-op purchase greatly. Unfortunately I cannot make the meeting that you proposed at Farley's. It seems like we might also want to have it after a sudo meeting? Well in any case, to get the most participation I've created a doodle for such a meeting:
>>
>> http://doodle.com/bd7ars64a3ngfd4m
>>
>> Should we also include BAPS and CCL since they would be also potential investors? Also it seems like we should get a firmer undesrstanding of what the purchase price and terms would be. Eddan do you have that information? Can someone with connections to George get a non-obligatory estimate price from him?
>>
>> Max
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1 October 2013 16:54, Anthony Di Franco <di.franco(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'll be there.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> If people are not quite aware of what Eddan is talking about with the JOBS Act Crowd Funding, It was brought up at our first unconference just as Sudo Room was moving in to 2141. Here's some more information
>>
>> http://www.forbes.com/sites/tanyaprive/2012/11/06/inside-the-jobs-act-equit…
>>
>> I'm definitely interested in talking a discussion of the possible co-oping of a portion of 2141 off line and meeting up at Farley's maybe Monday next week (Oct. 7th) 6pm? Who's down?
>>
>> --Andrew
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Anthony Di Franco <di.franco(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> To try to help answer the question of what exactly happened and what the implications are, let me quote from Eddan's email, emphasis mine (archived here):
>>
>> “Terminating the current lease means the latter, David. That is - at that point, a new/better lease can be negotiated. Or not, if so decided. While the details on what a co-op purchase would look like still have to be hammered out in detail, it was my understanding from George that he was interested in an arrangement that would include selling off equity in that portion. Different organizations would put up money in their collective shares and that wing would be organized as a co-op with the different organizational/individual owners taking part in the decision-making of managing the building.”
>>
>> and from Hol's email, (archived here):
>> “I think we've been fortunate to have people (Eddan, Matt, Zach) put their name down in the lease and assume a degree of liability for operations. I interpret the notice to George as a move that is not binding on sudo room in any way, but one that A) allows Eddan and presumably Matt to relinquish their "doing business as" status to a better defined group, B) informs George that his behavior toward tenants will not be met with guaranteed continued tenancy, and C) puts a fire under all of our asses to solve the space/access/community issues elegantly, either by finding a new space or by coming to an agreement and a way forward at 2141. These are just my thoughts, with a grain of salt on specifics as I haven't been going to general meetings recently but I guess it's time to start doing that again since this is a matter of great importance.”
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 4:05 PM, rhodey <rhodey(a)anhonesteffort.org> wrote:
>> All that myself and others have asked of you is that you provide a bit
>> more detailed information about the discussion you had while terminating
>> the lease. Your name was on the lease, I believe you have every right to
>> terminate the lease in order to remove your name. What I cannot
>> understand is why you consider questions regarding the discussion you
>> had off topic or offensive.
>>
>> > For the sake of moving on to the work we have cut out for us - this
>> > is my last message addressing this topic.
>>
>> I'm confused as to how we're supposed to continue onto the work we have
>> cut out for us without knowing the details and expectations surrounding
>> the termination of our lease. I was not asking "why" did this happen, I
>> was (am) asking "what" happened.
>>
>> I am removing myself from any further discussion regarding the 2141
>> location on this mailing list, apologies to those who's feelings were hurt.
>>
>> -- rhodey
>>
>> On 10/01/2013 03:43 PM, Eddan Katz wrote:
>> > This is an extraordinarily unfair thing to say. On so many levels.
>> >
>> > I'm sorry that I have not articulated myself better. Those who know me, know that the message below is unfounded and mean-spirited.
>> >
>> > For the sake of moving on to the work we have cut out for us - this is my last message addressing this topic.
>> >
>> >
>> > sent from eddan.com
>> >
>> > On Oct 1, 2013, at 3:09 PM, rhodey <rhodey(a)anhonesteffort.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Eddan,
>> >
>> > You took it upon yourself to terminate SudoRoom's lease in (what I
>> > understand to be) a private meeting. Putting the question of whether
>> > or not this was agreed on by SudoRoom aside, the very least that you
>> > could do is share with us the details of a discussion you had on our
>> > behalf.
>> >
>> > Take a second to realize that although the idea of investing in
>> > property is both interesting and financially feasible for you, others
>> > may not feel the same or be financially able.
>> >
>> > -- rhodey
>> >
>> > On 10/01/2013 02:54 PM, Eddan Katz wrote:
>> >>>> I don't think it makes any sense to lump this into one of george's
>> >>>> emotional outbursts.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> as we've all been following closely over this list, the equity
>> >>>> crowdfunding provision of the Jobs Act, which went into effect last
>> >>>> week on Sept. 23, 2013, enables the distribution of shares outside
>> >>>> the traditional infrastructure of approved investors. the changes
>> >>>> in the future of capital flow routing around wall st. and the rules
>> >>>> surrounding investment cannot be underestimated. by opening up the
>> >>>> buying of stocks to us regular folks - with capital investment no
>> >>>> longer made unaffordable because of the huge cuts taken by
>> >>>> investment bank intermediaries and securities regulations
>> >>>> fortifying the status quo - the possibilities for raising capital
>> >>>> have just exploded.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> most interestingly, from my point of view, a collaborative
>> >>>> non-hierarchical ownership and management structure becomes
>> >>>> feasible in a way that it has never been in economic history.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Oct 1, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com
>> >>>> <mailto:marina.kukso@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> as far as i know eddan is the only one who has spoken with
>> >>>>> george, one of the building's owners, about the co-op
>> >>>>> possibility. eddan, can you share any more info about what
>> >>>>> exactly george said (my main question is whether this is just
>> >>>>> another one of george's idle threat type things that he just says
>> >>>>> and never intends to follow through on).?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Zee <zee(a)zeespencer.com
>> >>>>> <mailto:zee@zeespencer.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I am exceedingly interested in this, and would happily discuss
>> >>>>> it further over tea or coffee with other interested parties.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Andrew
>> >>>>> <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com <mailto:andrew@roshambomedia.com>>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> I have no idea what the price per sq-ft is. We should find
>> >>>>>> that
>> >>>>> out. Also
>> >>>>>> having the capital isn't really as important as having a small
>> >>>>> group who is
>> >>>>>> willing to put in the time and resources when necessary to
>> >>>>>> make
>> >>>>> it happen.
>> >>>>>> With good enough credit it would be possible to finance the
>> >>>>> space depending
>> >>>>>> on the down payment. Or even crowd source the down payment.
>> >>>>> There are a lot
>> >>>>>> of options if there are people who actually want to it.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Hol Gaskill <hol(a)gaskill.com
>> >>>>> <mailto:hol@gaskill.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> bump
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Oct 1, 2013 10:51:46 AM, zee(a)zeespencer.com
>> >>>>> <mailto:zee@zeespencer.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>> Do we have an idea on what the per-sq-ft sale cost is?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 10:50 AM, David Keenan
>> >>>>> dkeenan44(a)gmail.com <mailto:dkeenan44@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> The co-op thing sounds like a very cool idea, except for
>> >>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>> fact that
>> >>>>>>>>> neither I nor anyone I know has, to my knowledge at
>> >>>>>>>>> least,
>> >>>>> access to
>> >>>>>>>>> the volume of capital that i imagine is required, so
>> >>>>>>>>> personally
>> >>>>> I'm still a
>> >>>>>>>>> bit lost on how one would move forward on such an
>> >>>>>>>>> acquisition..?
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> -d
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, October 1, 2013, Andrew wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> I haven't been around all that much, but am I correct
>> >>>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>> assume that
>> >>>>>>>>>> the current situation is that:
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> 1. Sudo Room's current lease ends Jan 1st 2. George is
>> >>>>>>>>>> willing to sell off part of 2141 to a group of
>> >>>>> investors?
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> If this is so. Let's talk 2141 Co-Op. Is there anyone
>> >>>>>>>>>> on
>> >>>>> this list who
>> >>>>>>>>>> would be at all interested in owning part of a building
>> >>>>>>>>>> in
>> >>>>> the middle
>> >>>>>>>>>> of Downtown Oakland??
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Sudo Room or not, this is a great opportunity for a
>> >>>>> collective to turn
>> >>>>>>>>>> some extremely prime real estate in to a commercial
>> >>>>>>>>>> Co-Op.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Just wanted to bring attention to this. Thoughts?
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> -- ------- Andrew Lowe Cell: 831-332-2507
>> >>>>>>>>>> <tel:831-332-2507> http://roshambomedia.com
>> >>>>>>>>>> <http://roshambomedia.com/>
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Begin forwarded message:
> From: "Matthew Senate" <mattsenate(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: [sudoroom] Fwd: Lease for "Art Studio" in 2141 Broadway
> Date: November 9, 2012 10:52:55 AM PST
> To: "sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org" <sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org>
>
> Hey all,
>
> I'm planning to meet George at 4pm about Workshop Weekend, but this may be a convenient time to turn in the lease and get access to the "art studio" asap. Contacting Eddan about signing on behalf of Sudo Room. Please see Laurie's note below that we may have others on the lease, but insurance is simpler if it is simply Sudo Room (which I presume means those signatories on the Doing-Business-As aka Fictitious Business Name--Eddan and myself).
>
> // Matt
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Laurie Cooperman Rosen <lscoop(a)comcast.net>
> Date: Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 4:41 AM
> Subject: RE: Lease for "Art Studio" in 2141 Broadway
> To: Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com>
>
>
> Hi Matt-
>
> Attached please find a copy of the lease. I was extremely tired when I got home last night and just crashed out without finishing the lease. I’m so sorry about that! But I got up quite early as a result, so hopefully you’ll get this first thing in the morning.
>
> You’ll see that there is a little bit that we’re trying to work out with Utilities….since there is so much common area involved, there is a 6% load factor for your space which combines your exclusive space and a percentage of the common area space, which is obviously quite large. We are really not sure with what intensity the space will be used, nor the amount of electricity that will be used, since this will likely not be traditional office space, so we’re willing to start out at 4% (which would be fine if usage is mainly as a part-time space for people, without unusual amounts of electrical equipment or HVAC being used), but reserve the right to move it up to 6% if the load factor warrants it. In general, 1% of utilities amounts to an average of $30-$50/month, depending on the time of year, occupancy rate and overall tenant usage. If trash removal or janitorial for this space is or might become an issue, that’s something that we can discuss.
>
> We didn’t have an address for you so you should add that to the lease. If there are others responsible that you feel should be added that will be there on a regular basis that is fine; however, insurance would be best if it is a single policy covering the Sudo Room and all people that it might invite or allow to share its space with.
>
> Let me know if there are any other errors, inconsistencies or anything else in the lease that you might want to discuss. I will be home until mid-afternoon at 510-635-9500.
>
> I know that George is supposed to meet you later but we both have back-to-back acupuncture appointments on Piedmont Ave later. Mine is at 4:30 and George’s is scheduled for 5:30. If it’s possible to meet George sometime between 3 and 4:30 (whatever is most convenient for you) that would be great, because he will have to leave shortly after 5pm. Let us know what works for you.
>
> Thanks!
> Laurie
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Matthew Senate [mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 9:45 PM
> To: travology(a)mindspring.com; lscoop(a)comcast.net
> Subject: Lease for "Art Studio" in 2141 Broadway
>
>
>
> Hi George and Laurie,
>
>
>
> After an online vote and our in-person meeting, we would like to sign a lease with you for the "Art Studio" space upstairs in 2141.
>
> If we can please clarify your most comfortable position on signatories of the lease, we would be happy to comply. Ideally, we would like to sign as the unincorporated association of Sudo Room (namely for instance that Eddan and I have signed to register Sudo Room as a ficitious business name). However, we can also sign as individuals if necessary, and would like to know how many folks you would allow to sign.
>
> Thanks, speak with you soon. George, I plan to see you Friday but we can receive the lease by email (or by paper) sooner.
>
> We would love to get access to the space upstairs as soon as possible.
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
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Begin forwarded message:
> From: "Matthew Senate" <mattsenate(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: [sudoroom] Lease for 2141 Broadway + Meeting Minutes
> Date: November 7, 2012 11:17:25 PM PST
> To: "sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org" <sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org>
>
> At tonight's meeting, we discussed the online vote results with a 16 - 1 favor toward signing a lease for the upstairs "art studio" space in 2141 Broadway. Further, we came to consensus with attending members in support of signing the lease as well.
>
> We are waiting to hear any comment from the one dissenter who we have not identified, and to whom we would like to reach out.
>
> I sent a message to George and Laurie and Laurie responded saying we will have a lease to examine by tomorrow evening. They prefer, if we do sign, that those listed on the Doing-Business-As (fictitious business name) sign the lease, which would be myself and Eddan. Thus, it seems reasonable to me that we should be able to change signatories for the DBA transfer the lease at the discretion of Sudo Room.
>
> Eddan, if necessary, would you be interested in signing on behalf of Sudo Room with me?
>
> // Matt
>
> p.s. Meeting notes:
>
> 11/7/12
>
> Attendees: Matt, Andrew, Frederik, Jenny, Hol, Anthony, Len, Ryanb, Jae, Erik, Eddan, Jehan, Aestetix
>
> Announcements:
> -OpenOakland! Meeting at City Hall (rm. 3) every Tuesday at 6:30
> -OaklandWiki Bike Photo Tour of street art and public art this Saturday at Tech Liminal - bring a camera and a notepad: http://www.eventbrite.com/event/4720129033#
> -Workshop Weekend this weekend! Nov 10-11 @ Sudo Room, Tech Liminal and more! http://workshopweekend.com
>
> Budget Discussion
> - Proposal 1
>
> -Jenny suggests Sudo Working Groups for internal autonomous decision-making (eg; renting the box office)
> -Hol brings up the possibility of including semi-private workspaces
> -Eddan expresses discomfort with there being any private ownership in the common spaces, and suggests that
> --->Redevelopment office in Old Oakland gives loans to local developments
> -Jae: Member shelves in the art room? Erik concurs
> -Peer production requires open spaces that negate the possibility for special treatment (eddan)
> -Ongoing projects in the space could have space reserved for them so long as they report regularly (weekly?) on the mailing list (matt)
> -Let's get this space- and then a big warehouse woo! (erik)
> -Andrew suggests not a reservation system by commerce but rather, project-specific areas reserved for a limited time by consensus
> -Space allotment SYSTEM (rather than rules..)
>
> -Eddan suggests breaking up the discussion into its components, as the UN does
> -
> -Jehan suggests GitTipcom
> -Set up an instructable for setting up direct deposits between one's bank and the Sudo Room account
> -There is a reason to resist having a tax structure, and we have successfully avoided (thus far) the pressure to procure a federal tax ID
> -Proposal for hacking on our compact and budget-making process, as well as new member onboarding process - Nov. 16th at
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Begin forwarded message:
> From: "Jenny Ryan" <jenny(a)thepyre.org>
> Subject: Re: [sudoroom] 2141 Broadway
> Date: October 25, 2012 4:20:17 PM PDT
> To: Sudoroom <sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org>
>
> By the way folks,
>
> This is a beautiful rendering of the floor plans of 2141, which Matt threw together at the end of our meeting last night :)
>
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Matthew Senate (Google Drive) <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I've shared an item with you.
> Untitled drawing
> Google Drive: create, share, and keep all your stuff in one place.
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Begin forwarded message:
> From: Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [sudoroom] **CRITICAL** Update for 2135 broadway, Oakland, CA
> Date: June 2, 2012 10:55:38 PM PDT
> To: Sudoroom <sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org>
>
> michael and i actually were wondering what the situation was with that building as we checked out 2135 broadway today. it's seemed empty for at least a couple years (i've never seen anything but the current posters there). the kapor center site says that they plan to move in in 2013...
>
> also, while we're on the topic of neighbors of 2135, to the right of 2135 is a psychic. to the right of the psychic (with the tile mosaic entryway) is the separate entrance to the upstairs part of 2135 (this is the entrance for the upstairs double office - option #3 in matt's original email). to the right of that is a currently empty spot that will have a new organization moving in starting in june: the sound room (bay area jazz and arts) http://secondsaturdaysalon.com/. the sound room is also somehow partnered with the space directly to the left of 2135 - 2131 broadway (the papered-up space all the way on the left in this streetview: https://maps.google.com/?q=loc:+Broadway+at+22nd+Street+Oakland+CA+US&ll=37…). 2131 had an art show yesterday as part of art murmur. this is listed as a sound room event on the sound room site: "Art show featuring Faultline ArtSpace will be held at 2131 Broadway - in the same building as our space but on the adjacent corner." however, by today everything at 2131 was packed up and empty, so it's not clear what the situation is with 2131.
>
> either way, it looks like the spot will have interesting neighbors moving in soon, and potentially folks we would want to get in touch with (at the very least because of the surprising resonances between our organizations' names: sudo room/sound room)
>
> - marina
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Eddan Katz <eddan(a)oaklandlocal.com> wrote:
> It turns out the neighbors directly across the street from 2135 Broadway will be the future home of the Kapor Center (http://www.kaporcenter.org/). Or they may already have some offices set up in there? I haven't seen anyone come in or out when I've passed by. Does anyone know anything about that?
>
>
> On 6/2/12 9:03 AM, Jehan Tremback wrote:
>>
>> Well we are the hackers. We will be the ones using it. The most important part is that wherever we go, we hack in there. Aq
>>
>> On Jun 2, 2012 8:53 AM, "Eddan Katz" <eddan(a)oaklandlocal.com> wrote:
>> Regarding Tech Liminal, it was my understanding that we still wanted to have meetings there and that this is a temporary (6-month) initiative to formulate aspects of SudoRoom's identity not as easily developed from those meetings at Tech Liminal.
>>
>> Also, I think it worthwhile mentioning that the curb in front of the building is zoned for 2 spots for loading and unloading - this may be useful for setting up a way to receive donations of hardware in a spot easily accessible to the public.
>>
>>
>> sent from +1(415) 728-5800
>>
>> On Jun 2, 2012, at 8:46 AM, Eddan Katz <eddan(a)oaklandlocal.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think we should put a big sign on the window of the office facing the street (bullet-proof, as the manager mentioned) that says:
>>>
>>> "Help us get a bigger: SudoRoom.org".
>>>
>>> With the placement of the sign along people's walk home from the BART to the lake - I can imagine getting our money back, renting more practical space in that building and then some, imho. The image of several hackers seen through the window trying to fit into the room will make the case demonstratively that we need a bigger room.
>>>
>>> For those who have seen the place, I can think of no better space that evokes the name - Sudo Room.
>>>
>>> [constraints are the canvas of creativity]
>>>
>>> sent from +1(415) 728-5800
>>>
>>> On Jun 1, 2012, at 5:18 PM, "Patrik D'haeseleer" <patrikd(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On the other hand - what do we really gain by renting a temporary 150 sq ft room, that we couldn't get at TechLiminal for free? Place to leave stuff lying around? Is 150 sq ft even big enough to fit us all?
>>>>
>>>> As long as Anca is happy to host us (and I think having the extra traffic is probably a good thing for TechLiminal) I don't see a good reason to spend our small amount of funds on a separate room that we don't truly need and that would only be a temporary fix anyway. I'd say let's spend some of that money on Anca, and stay at Techliminal at least until we find something more permanent..
>>>>
>>>> Also, as soon as we start paying rent on a monthly basis, we need to get serious about monthly paying memberships as well. But so far we haven't done much to make people eager to pay for a membership.
>>>>
>>>> Besides, if this guy really has lots of spaces and they come up for rent often, there really isn't any need to jump on whatever he has available right now. I'm sure he'll have some other spaces open next month as well.
>>>>
>>>> Patrik
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Jenny Ryan <jenny(a)thepyre.org> wrote:
>>>> Matt, and also Eddan & Timon - thanks for moving on this! I think this could be a fantastic initial space for Sudo Room..
>>>>
>>>> Location is great, though 150 square feet is absurdly small. How big is the classroom we could use?
>>>>
>>>> Overpriced for the size, imho, but the visibility we could definitely work wrt outreach for the group... though with the rest of the building's amenities available to us, might be a good bet.
>>>>
>>>> Would love to meet on Saturday, though would have to be early afternoon for me to make it (send-off party for our yurt builder & current resident, Morten, in our garden on Saturday starting around 4! email me if you'd like to come :)
>>>>
>>>> Jenny
>>>> http://jennyryan.net
>>>> http://thepyre.org
>>>> http://thevirtualcampfire.org
>>>> http://technomadic.tumblr.com
>>>>
>>>> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>> "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
>>>> -Laurie Anderson
>>>>
>>>> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
>>>> -Hannah Arendt
>>>>
>>>> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
>>>> -Stéphane Mallarmé
>>>> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Eddie A Tejeda <eddie.tejeda(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Matt.. thanks for leading this. I think this is a great opportunity. If I understand this correctly, there are multiple spaces available and we can start with one and move into other ones as needed? If that's the case I think it makes perfect sense to start with the smaller space and grow as needed.
>>>>
>>>> I also this it's a cool location. When do you need to make the decision by?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Eddie A Tejeda
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 11:48 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Howdy Folks,
>>>>
>>>> We've been in search of a space. There are lots of options, and bigger, brighter futures rest on the horizon.
>>>>
>>>> On Weds, Eddan found this listing on craigslist: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/3036298243.html seen here: https://maps.google.com/?q=loc:+Broadway+at+22nd+Street+Oakland+CA+US&ll=37…
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I gave George, the property manager, a call. I had seen some other offices in his space months before, he has lots of spaces and they come up for rent often. All month-to-month contracts, and a lease if we really want one He said he was available today at 3pm. I showed up and Eddan and Timon joined in.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We saw three offices. I have photographs stored on a proprietary memory device and will retrieve them ASAP upon apprehension of the proper cable.
>>>>
>>>> 1. $500 / month 350 sq ft - The LISTED ROOM - has WiFi access, on the ground floor, outlets, lights. It is a good deal for the size, but it is not very close to the street. One must walk through a hallway, through a half-office, and down another hallway (all disability accessible) to get to it. This is not bad, just a bit removed from public view.
>>>>
>>>> 2. $400 / month (no exact measure, but about 150 sq. ft). - The BOX OFFICE (calling it that for short). Has a window, is just a few feet inside public-facing street-level doors in the same area as the LISTED ROOM. Also has WiFi Access. Sits directly outside a shared building "classroom" area available to all renters, just sign up ahead of time. If we rent the BOX OFFICE, we can occasionally use the LISTED ROOM while it's open
>>>>
>>>> 3. $350 / month (no exact measure, but no bigger than 400 sq ft) - The DOUBLE OFFICE is upstairs, at the very top of the entrance steps. It has access to an unused, common "reception" area that would be available for our usage. It has cable and wifi internet access. The DOUBLE OFFICE includes two offices that are connected, side-by-side. The rear door has
>>>>
>>>> All rooms have access to the "classroom" area on the ground floor, just need to sign up as described above. The building just got faster WIFI service provided by Sonic.net installed recently. George is interested in providing line-access to internet in all ground floor offices in the future, we could also do this ourselves he offered.
>>>>
>>>> Also, we can potentially rent multiple of these spaces, or move from one to other available spaces in the building at a later time.
>>>>
>>>> In order to move forward with this space (and not to lose footing), I have a proposal:
>>>>
>>>> Sudo Room should consider "dipping" it's toe into the BOX OFFICE space (no. 2 above) by investing a portion of our fund-raiser funds of $200 first month (50% off for move-in), $400 obligatory for last month (which can be july if we wish), and a redeemable $400 deposit--at a grand total of $1,000, lasting to at least July. This would only commit us to two months in the space, the first month of which (June) we can sort out all the precise governance, tax, and income issues, by consensus, in order to move forward (remain, expand, or move) with this space and our future!
>>>>
>>>> I propose we hold a discussion on this email thread, use our other online tools, convene an in-person meetup on Saturday (anywhere that's available), consider all the issues and list them on the wiki, convene briefly again on Sunday with whoever can make the "scout session" (still on), and plan to move forward on Monday having begun due diligence to consider if we have the blessings of our community!
>>>>
>>>> Please add notes in reply to this thread, on this pad (for anonymous communication too): https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudoroom and ultimately we'll put everything on the Wiki on Saturday to sort out by Monday.
>>>>
>>>> On clarifying note: it seems to me that it would be prudent to maintain the Sunday "scouting" event for due diligence reasons, and for future option reasons!
>>>>
>>>> // Matt
>>>>
>>>> p.s. Note that time is crucial because other folks (including some we bumped into while on tour) are also looking at these spaces, and with the first of the month approaching, it is in the property manager's best interest to move folks in soon.
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Begin forwarded message:
> From: Eddan Katz <eddan(a)oaklandlocal.com>
> Subject: Re: [sudoroom] July Rent: Inversion of a Ponzi Scheme?
> Date: July 16, 2012 12:47:24 PM PDT
> To: sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org
>
> Hi Sudo folk.
>
> Due to overwhelming demand (i.e., a couple people asked me about it), I am extending the opportunity to participate in the paying of July rent to whomever else is interested, until the start of our meeting tonight at 2135 Broadway at 7pm. We are currently at 18 voluntary contributors (including myself), which makes it just below $32 per person. It would be great if others were also willing to chip so that we can make the Sudo-minyan of 23, as determined at last week's meeting. This would make it $25 per voluntary contributor to pay for July rent of our provisional current interim space.
>
> Since, according to the outlined schedule from the minutes - we will have made a compact for the Articles of Association just at the end of the month, I wanted to propose another experiment to try and pay for August rent. The amount will most likely be $875 by then (once accessibility to the second floor will most likely be resolved). I wanted to propose that we try the same $[rent]/n formula, but this time with n being groups or institutions. It would be great if we could get our like-minded friends in the area to enjoy our common spaces as well, especially the classroom. We could also solicit a wider range of art to be displayed for next Art Murmur on August 3.
>
> Can someone from the Mothership do a straw poll of interest in the invitation? And other sudo-represented groups among us? I'd gamble on being able to reach a Sudo-minyan of groups as well - and so will offer the eddan.com blog as a voluntary contributor.
>
>
> I also wanted to propose that we hold a formal ceremony at the end of our meeting tonight to try and answer the question asked on our sudo-nymous pad - "How many hackers can you fit in a Sudo Room?" I propose that July rent contributors and/or their proxies would be called first to step into the box office room so that we can give an informed and empirical answer to the posed question.
>
> Sincerely,
> Eddan
> [Self-Appointed Exchequer]
>
>
> On 7/4/12 6:54 PM, Hilary Naylor wrote:
>> +1 (prefer Paypal)
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Max Klein <isalix(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I will pay $[rent]/n too.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3 July 2012 11:34, Victoria Bogdan <bogdan.victoria(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Also happy to contribute for July, so please add my name to the tally!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Eddan Katz <eddan(a)oaklandlocal.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Jehan -
>>>>>
>>>>> There are two keys for 2135 Broadway that have been duplicated and
>>>>> distributed around so as to make getting a copy easier - those are the keys
>>>>> to: (1) the Box Office; and (2) the Orange Closet. I recently made another
>>>>> set of those keys though and would happily meet you there and give them to
>>>>> you. The landlord has no restrictions on the number of duplicates. There is
>>>>> also a key to the main door - for the door itself and the gate-lock when
>>>>> opening up and closing down. There are only several of these keys, though
>>>>> the landlord would be willing to make additional ones for an additional
>>>>> $10/month. Since that door is usually already opened by 8am by one of the
>>>>> tenants and generally only closed at around 11pm - that key would not be
>>>>> relevant for many users of the space.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have also paid the July rent ($300) for the upstairs office at 2141
>>>>> Broadway, which has allowed us use of the reception area for the past couple
>>>>> meetings. Accessibility is still only temporarily resolved with the
>>>>> permission we've had from the landlord and the East Bay Meditation Center
>>>>> where the elevator is, and therefore does not yet meet the criteria to which
>>>>> we've committed in getting an appropriate Sudo Room space. I therefore
>>>>> didn't think it would be appropriate to include that in the amount I was
>>>>> asking from the Sudo folks on the list. If you want to start using that room
>>>>> - let me know and I will make a copy for you as well. Right now, about 5
>>>>> people have keys to that room. My apologies for some of the junk lying
>>>>> around - still making my way through it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Eddan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/3/12 9:15 AM, Jehan Tremback wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Cool, I can bring $50 by for the next meeting... are we meeting this
>>>>> wednesday? I guess my question would be, once I have helped pay, how can I
>>>>> access the space to work there? I would love to get started hackin' in our
>>>>> new hackerspace. Which part of the building are we actually renting, and how
>>>>> do I get in?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Jehan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Eddan Katz <eddan(a)oaklandlocal.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks for the immediate offers to help out - on and off list. I'm sorry
>>>>>> if the intended tone of my suggestion didn't come across. I was actually a
>>>>>> supporter of postponing the decision to use existing funds until we have a
>>>>>> better sense of how we work and what we're about. I'm very glad to hear
>>>>>> people think we're at a critical mass and are impatient to move forward.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Given our current status as an unincorporated association of people, a
>>>>>> proposal for voluntary contributions seemed to make the most sense. To
>>>>>> clarify, I was hoping to use the occasion for paying July rent to expand our
>>>>>> base of people who are connected and feel involved in Sudo Room. I am hoping
>>>>>> that this would be incentive to get more people on board. It was not meant
>>>>>> to be a suggestion for another fundraising campaign for Sudo Room. By
>>>>>> suggesting that everyone give an equal amount, I think we can demonstrate
>>>>>> how small that amount can be.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For example, if 12 people go in together (including me) - then it will
>>>>>> be less than $50. If split by 77 (the current number of email subscribers to
>>>>>> the list) - it would be $7.50 each. If divided by 142 (number of likes on
>>>>>> Facebook), we would each pay $4.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are many ways to cover mutual expenses without necessarily using a
>>>>>> membership dues model. I think we should give ourselves the opportunity to
>>>>>> try them out - at least in the interim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sent from +1(415) 728-5800
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 2, 2012, at 7:01 PM, "mattsenate(a)gmail.com"
>>>>>> <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eddan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wish we were in a better position to have sorted this out before July,
>>>>>> I am happy to kick in some cash, and I think we could get art murmur
>>>>>> donations easily too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tracy,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm very much interested in establishing, very soon, a way to contribute
>>>>>> regular dues, and to take donations from people who use and appreciate sudo
>>>>>> resources infrequently.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, it would be smart to establish what paying dues means. To me
>>>>>> they should carry reasonable weight and an articulated benefit to the
>>>>>> duepayer. This of course must cherish a commitment to access and
>>>>>> participation not contingent on funds. I believe that is hat underlies this
>>>>>> whole governance discussion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I plan to explain this position in more detail on wiki and with more
>>>>>> resources!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Join me http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Sudo_room/Governance_Structure
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Matt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>>>>> From: "Tracy Jacobs" <kinetical(a)comcast.net>
>>>>>> Date: Mon, Jul 2, 2012 5:51 pm
>>>>>> Subject: [sudoroom] July Rent: Inversion of a Ponzi Scheme?
>>>>>> To: "Eddan Katz" <eddan(a)oaklandlocal.com>
>>>>>> Cc: <sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry Eddan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can give you fifty dollars for July when I next see you or by
>>>>>> paypal if you prefer. I don't understand the politics here or why we
>>>>>> are not deciding to pay some dues for rent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>> On Jul 2, 2012, at 5:32 PM, Eddan Katz wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At the decision-making in-gathering last week, it was decided not to
>>>>>>> make a decision about existing Sudo Room fund-raising income to be
>>>>>>> used to pay rent at 2135 Broadway, at this time. The rationale being
>>>>>>> that we've had a hard enough time making a decision about how to
>>>>>>> make decisions that the process should probably not be complicated
>>>>>>> any further. I applaud our resilience of deliberation, but then
>>>>>>> there is the matter of July rent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to propose something not on behalf of Sudo Room
>>>>>>> officially, but that I hope will help us accomplish our goals, at
>>>>>>> this time. The rent due for July for the "Box Office" and "Orange
>>>>>>> Closet" amounts to $575. Since the "box office" will be central to
>>>>>>> our Art Murmur happening and the "orange closet" continues to be
>>>>>>> filled in our obsolete technology drive, I wanted to ask the good
>>>>>>> Sudo folk on this list to pitch in for that amount. Tracy already
>>>>>>> gave me $40 last week and Marc publicly announced his willingness to
>>>>>>> give me $60 on-list. I want to make sure that everyone is clear
>>>>>>> about the fact that if you would like to give me money at any time,
>>>>>>> you are most welcome to. I have accounts with most mobile and online
>>>>>>> payment providers, if that makes it any easier.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But in terms of the $575 for July rent at 2135 Broadway, I wanted to
>>>>>>> continue in our straw poll practice of gauging how many people would
>>>>>>> be willing to chip in. If you're willing to go in together on rent
>>>>>>> for the space in July, please reply to this email with a +1 (to me
>>>>>>> and/or the list). By 6pm on Friday (the start of Art Murmur), I will
>>>>>>> ask these voluntary contributors to give me $575 divided by the
>>>>>>> number of people willing to volunteer. Needless to say - the higher
>>>>>>> the number of people contributing, the lower the contribution
>>>>>>> amount. If the number of contributors results in a sum too steep for
>>>>>>> any volunteer in particular, the Art Murmur event could be an
>>>>>>> opportunity to draw in others to cover that amount.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This contribution does not constitute membership in Sudo Room, nor
>>>>>>> does it enable special voting power, the use of a shelf, or a free t-
>>>>>>> shirt. I was hoping though to get some help to display a running
>>>>>>> list of the names of contributors against one of the walls at 2135
>>>>>>> Broadway on Friday. If someone objects to the use of this list to
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