I've spoken to Naveen Jain, CEO and Greg Weber, the General Counsel - about getting in on Peer Production and they sound pretty excited about it. Their current offices are across the street (22nd) in that cool, funky green building on the ground floor. They are also involved in part in the Impact Hub Oakland launch at the beginning of next year and are also anticipating the advantages of being across from the Kapor Center social entrepreneurship initiatives that will have their offices there.
As many of you know, the SELC has been mostly virtual, but has also set up offices in different places for short periods, the longest of which has been at the Brower Center I believe. I've spoken several times in the past with SELC members about setting up shop somehow at 2141 Broadway. The Peer Production Project is an intriguing opportunity for them, but no substantial conversations have yet been had.
Yesterday afternoon - Shaun Tai and Linda Peong, co-founders of Oakland Digital (http://odalc.org/), along with their colleague Hilda Elizabeth Mendoza - came by to visit the Sudo Hall wing of 2141 Broadway and have expressed interest in the front room facing Broadway.
I've always been very impressed by the tangible impact ODALC has been making on the community and also anticipate that they could help lead events and education oriented towards kids.
They are now in contact with George & Laurie directly, but are also very interested in helping coordinate the collaboration of groups & companies for Peer Production. They are also interested in having the common area be governed by the community institutional members, including scheduling and sanitation.
sudo-discuss thread of relevance to the Peer Production Project.
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Proposal to Galvanize
> Date: December 19, 2013 5:31:43 AM PST
> To: Max B <maxb.personal(a)gmail.com>
> Cc: camoo(a)groups.google.com, sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org>, Bay Area Public School Organizing <bayareapublicschool-organizing(a)googlegroups.com>
>
> Hey all,
>
> Excited to discuss tonight, hope you can make it.
>
> Appreciate the feedback from everyone, wanted to share a few thoughts.
>
> On The Dangers of 2141 Broadway - as far as I see it, we're here, and it's going to take quite a bit of energy to confirm an alternative with the right critical mass of folks. To rent out an extra room is equivalent to saying "We haven't signed a lease on an alternative for this January, let's put our stuff and ourselves some place for now, especially if we don't have any space at all". With a month-to-month contract, I shared my reasons in the first email about why I think it's valuable to do this. In fact, we're lucky to have the option at this time.
> On Fund-Raising - I do think there will be some way to intelligently combine the budgets of a small number of groups to share the third office. Knowing just a few interested parties should get the ball rolling. If we're building up to make serious financial commitments together, I see this as pretty close to the minimum in terms of financial commitments, a first step. By all of this I also mean that I don't think the cost will be prohibitive to raising more funds, given the back-of-the-envelope estimations for alternative spaces so far.
> On The Office - I believe splitting the room about ~18 ways would be possible. On the other hand, I think there is likely a better set of chunks than even division. To give more detail, I think we could probably do something more like:
> Some significant portion of the space is rented by one or two groups, up to say a third or a half. ($300 - $400 / mo)
> Some shared desk space is available for folks that need an office space (3 x $50 / mo)
> Some storage space is available for folks that need storage only, or storage along with room usage. (3 x $50 / mo)
> A few more desks are rented and managed as a co-working component, say as "sudo work" or whatever, that I am interested in coordinating. (6 x $50 / mo)
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Max B <maxb.personal(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Is 18 separate groups feasible? Personally, I might be interested in
> paying $50 for a co-working(ish) space for myself and for sudomesh. I
> guess I'd be interested in that sort of arrangement in any new Omni-like
> situation as well.
>
> Max B
>
> On 12/17/2013 03:12 PM, Matthew Senate wrote:
> > Hey all,
> >
> > I have a proposal I'd like some feedback on and to discuss at the next
> > meeting at the public school this Thursday (7pm right?)
> >
> > *Proposal: *
> > Out of the attendees of these meetings (including folks on the list below),
> > to find some number of interested collectives, individuals, organizations,
> > small businesses, etc to rent the $900-$950 / mo. office adjacent to the
> > Bay Area Public School (BAPS), sharing the common space with BAPS and the
> > Sudo Room at 2141 Broadway in Oakland. For instance, at ~18 equal parties,
> > this room can be rented for $50 / mo. I am personally interested in
> > coordinating several folks to use part of the space as "sudo coworking"
> > with a few small desks for individual work. The intention of this rental is
> > multiple-fold:
> >
> > * To no longer delay in solidifying collaboration between various
> > groups--i.e. for other folks to join BAPS and the Sudo Room by sharing
> > space now.
> > * To commit to investing (minimally) financially in a venture that requires
> > communication, collaboration, and sharing.
> > * To engage in a learning experience about our ability to co-operate and
> > grow.
> > * To provide an opportunity to groups that currently do not have a space to
> > galvanize their community.
> > * To be able to fruitfully engage in a comparison between various group
> > rental options including The Omni, 8th and Alice, and even 2141 Broadway.
> >
> > https://sudoroom.org/wiki/The_Omni
> > https://sudoroom.org/wiki/8th_and_Alice
> > https://sudoroom.org/wiki/2141_Broadway
> > https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Spaces
> >
> > *List (in no particular order):*
> >
> > - * Timeless infinite
> > light<http://space.sudoscience.org/index.php/Possible_Groups#Timeless_infinite_li…>
> > - * sudo mesh<http://space.sudoscience.org/index.php/Possible_Groups#sudo_mesh>
> > - * Prelinger
> > Library<http://space.sudoscience.org/index.php/Possible_Groups#Prelinger_Library>
> > - * Local Flavor<http://space.sudoscience.org/index.php/Possible_Groups#Local_Flavor>
> > - * Planting
> > Justice<http://space.sudoscience.org/index.php/Possible_Groups#Planting_Justice>
> > - * Spokeland<http://space.sudoscience.org/index.php/Possible_Groups#Spokeland>
> > - * Fix-It Clinic<http://space.sudoscience.org/index.php/Possible_Groups#Fix-It_Clinic>
> > - * CorpWatch<http://space.sudoscience.org/index.php/Possible_Groups#CorpWatch>
> > - * Sudo Co-Working<http://space.sudoscience.org/index.php/Possible_Groups#Sudo_Co-Working>
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > sudo-discuss mailing list
> > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
> > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
> >
>
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does anyone know the folks who work on this publication and initiative?
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of interest regarding Uptown Neighborhood & the "Plaid Friday" experiment commentary.
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> Oakland Focus
> 'Plaid Friday' A Success in Lake Merritt/Uptown & Downtown Oakland
> Posted: 12 Dec 2013 11:42 AM PST
> Local Retail Movement Moves into High Gear in
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>
> Plaid Friday’s “mall-ternative” event sees record numbers ‘love Oakland and put their money where their hearts are’
>
>
> The results are in and everyone involved has declared last Friday’s ‘Plaid Friday’ event in Oakland a resounding success.
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>
> This year’s event, the fifth ‘mall-ternative’ shopping event in Oakland, included the transformation of Latham Square into a festive winter wonderland where more than 30 “pop-up” artisans displayed and sold artwork and gifts. Additionally, throughout the evening, dozens of pop-up vendors were offering fantastic gift options in downtown and uptown’s coolest bars and restaurants.
>
> Results of surveys conducted among many of the businesses that participated in this year’s event indicate that retail activity was high.
>
> Loakal Art Gallery and Boutique at 560 Second Street reported a doubling in sales over last year’s event. "We were so happy to see fellow Oaklanders get in the spirit of supporting local businesses. Many of our customers even came to the store wearing plaid! It was a great way to celebrate the diversity and creativity of Oakland," said Loretta Nguyen, proprietor.
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Begin forwarded message:
> From: Eddan <eddan(a)clear.net>
> Subject: Sudo Art - meeting notes - 12/15/2012
> Date: February 27, 2013 2:27:59 PM PST
> To: artmurmur(a)lists.sudoroom.org
> Bcc: eddank(a)gmail.com
> Reply-To: eddan(a)eddan.com
>
> Below are the notes I took from the State of the Room weekend meeting on Sudo Art, also to give background on the issues and suggestions that have been discussed before.
>
> ---
>
> Sudo Art. Planning meeting 12/15.
>
> Order of discussion:
> 1. What we've done so far.
> 2. What we've got at this point.
> 3. What we Need to Do?
> 4. What is the Organization & Governance?
>
> On what we've done so far --
> 1- Circle thing with Max. circle packing.
> 2- Press Conference
> 3- Announcement of Intent to Exist
> 4- How Mnay People Can You Fit in a 100 sq. ft. room.
> 5- tracy display kinetic sculptures
> 6- Jae Kwon working the 3d printer
>
> On what we need to do:
> 1 - sign up for Art Murmur officially
> 2 - Raise money to paay for the fee.
> 3 - Figure out what to do with downstairs/fishbowl
> 4 - Talk to George about his plans.
>
> What is the organization & Governance?
> Dynamic Association -- Members can change from month-to-month
> Need 3 jobs - exchequer, scribe, & facilitator
> ideal size 6-8 people willing to sign up.
> time frame for when to do it.
> suggest a theme by Sudo Room.
>
> Sudo Art collective artists discussion-
> Only showing art that is part of the collective?
> this would need structure.
> Advantages of having a small group go in on the Sudo Art.
> split cost for space
> for paying Art Murmur (or joining)
> Need to figure out advantages & disadvantages of joining Art Murmur.
> Wine & cheese - some for that.
> get local restaurants to serve & advertise.
> Mobile payment - Pogo.
> Different model - rotate curator. w/ these people.
> When the curator is really good.
> We can also have lots of Internet art.
>
> on Artist payment
> Mission co-op on Valencia - what's already been done.
> artists keep something like the 70%. 1 shift per month per person taht takes a cut on the side. 10% house. 20% seller.
>
> Sudo proposals:
> Press a button if you like something & a portion of proceeds go to the author of the work or the artist that did it.
> People pay a flat fee & then it gets distributed
>
> How should we get these 6-8 people?
> Critical here is curation.
> should not be too controlled.
> Dynamic Association of Displayed Art - separate Sudo Art, co-owners.
> curators - people who decide on what goes in there each month.
> Connect to the Art World.
> email describing it and the invitation to be forwarded around.
> Tweet out to people who are artists.
>
> MIscellaneous:
> 6-8 people as rotating gallery curators.
> Signage - Get the logo on the building!
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] 2141 Broadway Co-Op?
> Date: October 4, 2013 6:17:38 PM PDT
> To: Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net>
> Cc: "sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org>, rhodey <rhodey(a)anhonesteffort.org>
>
> I would propose that the best way to move forward is to get a group together who is willing to put some work in to making this happen and then as that group, which would probablly have to file as an llc or somthing simular, begin negotiations with Goerge.
>
> I dont really see this as a sudo room specific thing more that sudo room could lease from the 2141 co-op once it owns that portion of the building.
>
> -Andrew
>
> On Oct 3, 2013 1:36 PM, "Eddan Katz" <eddan(a)clear.net> wrote:
> As I mentioned on my phone-in to the meeting last night, there were no numbers discussed at any point, neither regarding sale nor shares nor rental.
> Not sure how it would make sense to try and figure it out, but I would guess some of you number-crunchers can propose some share/sq. ft. metric.
>
> On Oct 3, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Max Klein <isalix(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I would like to also talk about co-op purchase greatly. Unfortunately I cannot make the meeting that you proposed at Farley's. It seems like we might also want to have it after a sudo meeting? Well in any case, to get the most participation I've created a doodle for such a meeting:
>>
>> http://doodle.com/bd7ars64a3ngfd4m
>>
>> Should we also include BAPS and CCL since they would be also potential investors? Also it seems like we should get a firmer undesrstanding of what the purchase price and terms would be. Eddan do you have that information? Can someone with connections to George get a non-obligatory estimate price from him?
>>
>> Max
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1 October 2013 16:54, Anthony Di Franco <di.franco(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'll be there.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> If people are not quite aware of what Eddan is talking about with the JOBS Act Crowd Funding, It was brought up at our first unconference just as Sudo Room was moving in to 2141. Here's some more information
>>
>> http://www.forbes.com/sites/tanyaprive/2012/11/06/inside-the-jobs-act-equit…
>>
>> I'm definitely interested in talking a discussion of the possible co-oping of a portion of 2141 off line and meeting up at Farley's maybe Monday next week (Oct. 7th) 6pm? Who's down?
>>
>> --Andrew
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Anthony Di Franco <di.franco(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> To try to help answer the question of what exactly happened and what the implications are, let me quote from Eddan's email, emphasis mine (archived here):
>>
>> “Terminating the current lease means the latter, David. That is - at that point, a new/better lease can be negotiated. Or not, if so decided. While the details on what a co-op purchase would look like still have to be hammered out in detail, it was my understanding from George that he was interested in an arrangement that would include selling off equity in that portion. Different organizations would put up money in their collective shares and that wing would be organized as a co-op with the different organizational/individual owners taking part in the decision-making of managing the building.”
>>
>> and from Hol's email, (archived here):
>> “I think we've been fortunate to have people (Eddan, Matt, Zach) put their name down in the lease and assume a degree of liability for operations. I interpret the notice to George as a move that is not binding on sudo room in any way, but one that A) allows Eddan and presumably Matt to relinquish their "doing business as" status to a better defined group, B) informs George that his behavior toward tenants will not be met with guaranteed continued tenancy, and C) puts a fire under all of our asses to solve the space/access/community issues elegantly, either by finding a new space or by coming to an agreement and a way forward at 2141. These are just my thoughts, with a grain of salt on specifics as I haven't been going to general meetings recently but I guess it's time to start doing that again since this is a matter of great importance.”
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 4:05 PM, rhodey <rhodey(a)anhonesteffort.org> wrote:
>> All that myself and others have asked of you is that you provide a bit
>> more detailed information about the discussion you had while terminating
>> the lease. Your name was on the lease, I believe you have every right to
>> terminate the lease in order to remove your name. What I cannot
>> understand is why you consider questions regarding the discussion you
>> had off topic or offensive.
>>
>> > For the sake of moving on to the work we have cut out for us - this
>> > is my last message addressing this topic.
>>
>> I'm confused as to how we're supposed to continue onto the work we have
>> cut out for us without knowing the details and expectations surrounding
>> the termination of our lease. I was not asking "why" did this happen, I
>> was (am) asking "what" happened.
>>
>> I am removing myself from any further discussion regarding the 2141
>> location on this mailing list, apologies to those who's feelings were hurt.
>>
>> -- rhodey
>>
>> On 10/01/2013 03:43 PM, Eddan Katz wrote:
>> > This is an extraordinarily unfair thing to say. On so many levels.
>> >
>> > I'm sorry that I have not articulated myself better. Those who know me, know that the message below is unfounded and mean-spirited.
>> >
>> > For the sake of moving on to the work we have cut out for us - this is my last message addressing this topic.
>> >
>> >
>> > sent from eddan.com
>> >
>> > On Oct 1, 2013, at 3:09 PM, rhodey <rhodey(a)anhonesteffort.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Eddan,
>> >
>> > You took it upon yourself to terminate SudoRoom's lease in (what I
>> > understand to be) a private meeting. Putting the question of whether
>> > or not this was agreed on by SudoRoom aside, the very least that you
>> > could do is share with us the details of a discussion you had on our
>> > behalf.
>> >
>> > Take a second to realize that although the idea of investing in
>> > property is both interesting and financially feasible for you, others
>> > may not feel the same or be financially able.
>> >
>> > -- rhodey
>> >
>> > On 10/01/2013 02:54 PM, Eddan Katz wrote:
>> >>>> I don't think it makes any sense to lump this into one of george's
>> >>>> emotional outbursts.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> as we've all been following closely over this list, the equity
>> >>>> crowdfunding provision of the Jobs Act, which went into effect last
>> >>>> week on Sept. 23, 2013, enables the distribution of shares outside
>> >>>> the traditional infrastructure of approved investors. the changes
>> >>>> in the future of capital flow routing around wall st. and the rules
>> >>>> surrounding investment cannot be underestimated. by opening up the
>> >>>> buying of stocks to us regular folks - with capital investment no
>> >>>> longer made unaffordable because of the huge cuts taken by
>> >>>> investment bank intermediaries and securities regulations
>> >>>> fortifying the status quo - the possibilities for raising capital
>> >>>> have just exploded.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> most interestingly, from my point of view, a collaborative
>> >>>> non-hierarchical ownership and management structure becomes
>> >>>> feasible in a way that it has never been in economic history.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Oct 1, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com
>> >>>> <mailto:marina.kukso@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> as far as i know eddan is the only one who has spoken with
>> >>>>> george, one of the building's owners, about the co-op
>> >>>>> possibility. eddan, can you share any more info about what
>> >>>>> exactly george said (my main question is whether this is just
>> >>>>> another one of george's idle threat type things that he just says
>> >>>>> and never intends to follow through on).?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Zee <zee(a)zeespencer.com
>> >>>>> <mailto:zee@zeespencer.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I am exceedingly interested in this, and would happily discuss
>> >>>>> it further over tea or coffee with other interested parties.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Andrew
>> >>>>> <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com <mailto:andrew@roshambomedia.com>>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> I have no idea what the price per sq-ft is. We should find
>> >>>>>> that
>> >>>>> out. Also
>> >>>>>> having the capital isn't really as important as having a small
>> >>>>> group who is
>> >>>>>> willing to put in the time and resources when necessary to
>> >>>>>> make
>> >>>>> it happen.
>> >>>>>> With good enough credit it would be possible to finance the
>> >>>>> space depending
>> >>>>>> on the down payment. Or even crowd source the down payment.
>> >>>>> There are a lot
>> >>>>>> of options if there are people who actually want to it.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Hol Gaskill <hol(a)gaskill.com
>> >>>>> <mailto:hol@gaskill.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> bump
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Oct 1, 2013 10:51:46 AM, zee(a)zeespencer.com
>> >>>>> <mailto:zee@zeespencer.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>> Do we have an idea on what the per-sq-ft sale cost is?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 10:50 AM, David Keenan
>> >>>>> dkeenan44(a)gmail.com <mailto:dkeenan44@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> The co-op thing sounds like a very cool idea, except for
>> >>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>> fact that
>> >>>>>>>>> neither I nor anyone I know has, to my knowledge at
>> >>>>>>>>> least,
>> >>>>> access to
>> >>>>>>>>> the volume of capital that i imagine is required, so
>> >>>>>>>>> personally
>> >>>>> I'm still a
>> >>>>>>>>> bit lost on how one would move forward on such an
>> >>>>>>>>> acquisition..?
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> -d
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, October 1, 2013, Andrew wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> I haven't been around all that much, but am I correct
>> >>>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>> assume that
>> >>>>>>>>>> the current situation is that:
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> 1. Sudo Room's current lease ends Jan 1st 2. George is
>> >>>>>>>>>> willing to sell off part of 2141 to a group of
>> >>>>> investors?
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> If this is so. Let's talk 2141 Co-Op. Is there anyone
>> >>>>>>>>>> on
>> >>>>> this list who
>> >>>>>>>>>> would be at all interested in owning part of a building
>> >>>>>>>>>> in
>> >>>>> the middle
>> >>>>>>>>>> of Downtown Oakland??
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Sudo Room or not, this is a great opportunity for a
>> >>>>> collective to turn
>> >>>>>>>>>> some extremely prime real estate in to a commercial
>> >>>>>>>>>> Co-Op.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Just wanted to bring attention to this. Thoughts?
>> >>>>>>>>>>
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Begin forwarded message:
> From: "Matthew Senate" <mattsenate(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: [sudoroom] Fwd: Lease for "Art Studio" in 2141 Broadway
> Date: November 9, 2012 10:52:55 AM PST
> To: "sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org" <sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org>
>
> Hey all,
>
> I'm planning to meet George at 4pm about Workshop Weekend, but this may be a convenient time to turn in the lease and get access to the "art studio" asap. Contacting Eddan about signing on behalf of Sudo Room. Please see Laurie's note below that we may have others on the lease, but insurance is simpler if it is simply Sudo Room (which I presume means those signatories on the Doing-Business-As aka Fictitious Business Name--Eddan and myself).
>
> // Matt
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Laurie Cooperman Rosen <lscoop(a)comcast.net>
> Date: Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 4:41 AM
> Subject: RE: Lease for "Art Studio" in 2141 Broadway
> To: Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com>
>
>
> Hi Matt-
>
> Attached please find a copy of the lease. I was extremely tired when I got home last night and just crashed out without finishing the lease. I’m so sorry about that! But I got up quite early as a result, so hopefully you’ll get this first thing in the morning.
>
> You’ll see that there is a little bit that we’re trying to work out with Utilities….since there is so much common area involved, there is a 6% load factor for your space which combines your exclusive space and a percentage of the common area space, which is obviously quite large. We are really not sure with what intensity the space will be used, nor the amount of electricity that will be used, since this will likely not be traditional office space, so we’re willing to start out at 4% (which would be fine if usage is mainly as a part-time space for people, without unusual amounts of electrical equipment or HVAC being used), but reserve the right to move it up to 6% if the load factor warrants it. In general, 1% of utilities amounts to an average of $30-$50/month, depending on the time of year, occupancy rate and overall tenant usage. If trash removal or janitorial for this space is or might become an issue, that’s something that we can discuss.
>
> We didn’t have an address for you so you should add that to the lease. If there are others responsible that you feel should be added that will be there on a regular basis that is fine; however, insurance would be best if it is a single policy covering the Sudo Room and all people that it might invite or allow to share its space with.
>
> Let me know if there are any other errors, inconsistencies or anything else in the lease that you might want to discuss. I will be home until mid-afternoon at 510-635-9500.
>
> I know that George is supposed to meet you later but we both have back-to-back acupuncture appointments on Piedmont Ave later. Mine is at 4:30 and George’s is scheduled for 5:30. If it’s possible to meet George sometime between 3 and 4:30 (whatever is most convenient for you) that would be great, because he will have to leave shortly after 5pm. Let us know what works for you.
>
> Thanks!
> Laurie
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Matthew Senate [mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 9:45 PM
> To: travology(a)mindspring.com; lscoop(a)comcast.net
> Subject: Lease for "Art Studio" in 2141 Broadway
>
>
>
> Hi George and Laurie,
>
>
>
> After an online vote and our in-person meeting, we would like to sign a lease with you for the "Art Studio" space upstairs in 2141.
>
> If we can please clarify your most comfortable position on signatories of the lease, we would be happy to comply. Ideally, we would like to sign as the unincorporated association of Sudo Room (namely for instance that Eddan and I have signed to register Sudo Room as a ficitious business name). However, we can also sign as individuals if necessary, and would like to know how many folks you would allow to sign.
>
> Thanks, speak with you soon. George, I plan to see you Friday but we can receive the lease by email (or by paper) sooner.
>
> We would love to get access to the space upstairs as soon as possible.
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
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