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Fwd: [sudoroom] Lease for 2141 Broadway + Meeting Minutes

by Eddan Katz

Begin forwarded message: > From: "Matthew Senate" <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [sudoroom] Lease for 2141 Broadway + Meeting Minutes > Date: November 7, 2012 11:17:25 PM PST > To: "sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org" <sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org> > > At tonight's meeting, we discussed the online vote results with a 16 - 1 favor toward signing a lease for the upstairs "art studio" space in 2141 Broadway. Further, we came to consensus with attending members in support of signing the lease as well. > > We are waiting to hear any comment from the one dissenter who we have not identified, and to whom we would like to reach out. > > I sent a message to George and Laurie and Laurie responded saying we will have a lease to examine by tomorrow evening. They prefer, if we do sign, that those listed on the Doing-Business-As (fictitious business name) sign the lease, which would be myself and Eddan. Thus, it seems reasonable to me that we should be able to change signatories for the DBA transfer the lease at the discretion of Sudo Room. > > Eddan, if necessary, would you be interested in signing on behalf of Sudo Room with me? > > // Matt > > p.s. Meeting notes: > > 11/7/12 > > Attendees: Matt, Andrew, Frederik, Jenny, Hol, Anthony, Len, Ryanb, Jae, Erik, Eddan, Jehan, Aestetix > > Announcements: > -OpenOakland! Meeting at City Hall (rm. 3) every Tuesday at 6:30 > -OaklandWiki Bike Photo Tour of street art and public art this Saturday at Tech Liminal - bring a camera and a notepad: http://www.eventbrite.com/event/4720129033# > -Workshop Weekend this weekend! Nov 10-11 @ Sudo Room, Tech Liminal and more! http://workshopweekend.com > > Budget Discussion > - Proposal 1 > > -Jenny suggests Sudo Working Groups for internal autonomous decision-making (eg; renting the box office) > -Hol brings up the possibility of including semi-private workspaces > -Eddan expresses discomfort with there being any private ownership in the common spaces, and suggests that > --->Redevelopment office in Old Oakland gives loans to local developments > -Jae: Member shelves in the art room? Erik concurs > -Peer production requires open spaces that negate the possibility for special treatment (eddan) > -Ongoing projects in the space could have space reserved for them so long as they report regularly (weekly?) on the mailing list (matt) > -Let's get this space- and then a big warehouse woo! (erik) > -Andrew suggests not a reservation system by commerce but rather, project-specific areas reserved for a limited time by consensus > -Space allotment SYSTEM (rather than rules..) > > -Eddan suggests breaking up the discussion into its components, as the UN does > - > -Jehan suggests GitTipcom > -Set up an instructable for setting up direct deposits between one's bank and the Sudo Room account > -There is a reason to resist having a tax structure, and we have successfully avoided (thus far) the pressure to procure a federal tax ID > -Proposal for hacking on our compact and budget-making process, as well as new member onboarding process - Nov. 16th at > > _______________________________________________ > sudoroom mailing list > sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org > http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom

11 years

Fwd: [sudoroom] 2141 Broadway

by Eddan Katz

Begin forwarded message: > From: "Jenny Ryan" <jenny(a)thepyre.org> > Subject: Re: [sudoroom] 2141 Broadway > Date: October 25, 2012 4:20:17 PM PDT > To: Sudoroom <sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org> > > By the way folks, > > This is a beautiful rendering of the floor plans of 2141, which Matt threw together at the end of our meeting last night :) > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Matthew Senate (Google Drive) <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I've shared an item with you. > Untitled drawing > Google Drive: create, share, and keep all your stuff in one place. > > _______________________________________________ > sudoroom mailing list > sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org > http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom > > > _______________________________________________ > sudoroom mailing list > sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org > http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom

11 years

Fwd: [sudoroom] **CRITICAL** Update for 2135 broadway, Oakland, CA

by Eddan Katz

Begin forwarded message: > From: Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [sudoroom] **CRITICAL** Update for 2135 broadway, Oakland, CA > Date: June 2, 2012 10:55:38 PM PDT > To: Sudoroom <sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org> > > michael and i actually were wondering what the situation was with that building as we checked out 2135 broadway today. it's seemed empty for at least a couple years (i've never seen anything but the current posters there). the kapor center site says that they plan to move in in 2013... > > also, while we're on the topic of neighbors of 2135, to the right of 2135 is a psychic. to the right of the psychic (with the tile mosaic entryway) is the separate entrance to the upstairs part of 2135 (this is the entrance for the upstairs double office - option #3 in matt's original email). to the right of that is a currently empty spot that will have a new organization moving in starting in june: the sound room (bay area jazz and arts) http://secondsaturdaysalon.com/. the sound room is also somehow partnered with the space directly to the left of 2135 - 2131 broadway (the papered-up space all the way on the left in this streetview: https://maps.google.com/?q=loc:+Broadway+at+22nd+Street+Oakland+CA+US&ll=37…). 2131 had an art show yesterday as part of art murmur. this is listed as a sound room event on the sound room site: "Art show featuring Faultline ArtSpace will be held at 2131 Broadway - in the same building as our space but on the adjacent corner." however, by today everything at 2131 was packed up and empty, so it's not clear what the situation is with 2131. > > either way, it looks like the spot will have interesting neighbors moving in soon, and potentially folks we would want to get in touch with (at the very least because of the surprising resonances between our organizations' names: sudo room/sound room) > > - marina > > > On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Eddan Katz <eddan(a)oaklandlocal.com> wrote: > It turns out the neighbors directly across the street from 2135 Broadway will be the future home of the Kapor Center (http://www.kaporcenter.org/). Or they may already have some offices set up in there? I haven't seen anyone come in or out when I've passed by. Does anyone know anything about that? > > > On 6/2/12 9:03 AM, Jehan Tremback wrote: >> >> Well we are the hackers. We will be the ones using it. The most important part is that wherever we go, we hack in there. Aq >> >> On Jun 2, 2012 8:53 AM, "Eddan Katz" <eddan(a)oaklandlocal.com> wrote: >> Regarding Tech Liminal, it was my understanding that we still wanted to have meetings there and that this is a temporary (6-month) initiative to formulate aspects of SudoRoom's identity not as easily developed from those meetings at Tech Liminal. >> >> Also, I think it worthwhile mentioning that the curb in front of the building is zoned for 2 spots for loading and unloading - this may be useful for setting up a way to receive donations of hardware in a spot easily accessible to the public. >> >> >> sent from +1(415) 728-5800 >> >> On Jun 2, 2012, at 8:46 AM, Eddan Katz <eddan(a)oaklandlocal.com> wrote: >> >>> I think we should put a big sign on the window of the office facing the street (bullet-proof, as the manager mentioned) that says: >>> >>> "Help us get a bigger: SudoRoom.org". >>> >>> With the placement of the sign along people's walk home from the BART to the lake - I can imagine getting our money back, renting more practical space in that building and then some, imho. The image of several hackers seen through the window trying to fit into the room will make the case demonstratively that we need a bigger room. >>> >>> For those who have seen the place, I can think of no better space that evokes the name - Sudo Room. >>> >>> [constraints are the canvas of creativity] >>> >>> sent from +1(415) 728-5800 >>> >>> On Jun 1, 2012, at 5:18 PM, "Patrik D'haeseleer" <patrikd(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On the other hand - what do we really gain by renting a temporary 150 sq ft room, that we couldn't get at TechLiminal for free? Place to leave stuff lying around? Is 150 sq ft even big enough to fit us all? >>>> >>>> As long as Anca is happy to host us (and I think having the extra traffic is probably a good thing for TechLiminal) I don't see a good reason to spend our small amount of funds on a separate room that we don't truly need and that would only be a temporary fix anyway. I'd say let's spend some of that money on Anca, and stay at Techliminal at least until we find something more permanent.. >>>> >>>> Also, as soon as we start paying rent on a monthly basis, we need to get serious about monthly paying memberships as well. But so far we haven't done much to make people eager to pay for a membership. >>>> >>>> Besides, if this guy really has lots of spaces and they come up for rent often, there really isn't any need to jump on whatever he has available right now. I'm sure he'll have some other spaces open next month as well. >>>> >>>> Patrik >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Jenny Ryan <jenny(a)thepyre.org> wrote: >>>> Matt, and also Eddan & Timon - thanks for moving on this! I think this could be a fantastic initial space for Sudo Room.. >>>> >>>> Location is great, though 150 square feet is absurdly small. How big is the classroom we could use? >>>> >>>> Overpriced for the size, imho, but the visibility we could definitely work wrt outreach for the group... though with the rest of the building's amenities available to us, might be a good bet. >>>> >>>> Would love to meet on Saturday, though would have to be early afternoon for me to make it (send-off party for our yurt builder & current resident, Morten, in our garden on Saturday starting around 4! email me if you'd like to come :) >>>> >>>> Jenny >>>> http://jennyryan.net >>>> http://thepyre.org >>>> http://thevirtualcampfire.org >>>> http://technomadic.tumblr.com >>>> >>>> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` >>>> "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." >>>> -Laurie Anderson >>>> >>>> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." >>>> -Hannah Arendt >>>> >>>> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." >>>> -Stéphane Mallarmé >>>> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Eddie A Tejeda <eddie.tejeda(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Matt.. thanks for leading this. I think this is a great opportunity. If I understand this correctly, there are multiple spaces available and we can start with one and move into other ones as needed? If that's the case I think it makes perfect sense to start with the smaller space and grow as needed. >>>> >>>> I also this it's a cool location. When do you need to make the decision by? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Eddie A Tejeda >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 11:48 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Howdy Folks, >>>> >>>> We've been in search of a space. There are lots of options, and bigger, brighter futures rest on the horizon. >>>> >>>> On Weds, Eddan found this listing on craigslist: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/3036298243.html seen here: https://maps.google.com/?q=loc:+Broadway+at+22nd+Street+Oakland+CA+US&ll=37… >>>> >>>> >>>> I gave George, the property manager, a call. I had seen some other offices in his space months before, he has lots of spaces and they come up for rent often. All month-to-month contracts, and a lease if we really want one He said he was available today at 3pm. I showed up and Eddan and Timon joined in. >>>> >>>> >>>> We saw three offices. I have photographs stored on a proprietary memory device and will retrieve them ASAP upon apprehension of the proper cable. >>>> >>>> 1. $500 / month 350 sq ft - The LISTED ROOM - has WiFi access, on the ground floor, outlets, lights. It is a good deal for the size, but it is not very close to the street. One must walk through a hallway, through a half-office, and down another hallway (all disability accessible) to get to it. This is not bad, just a bit removed from public view. >>>> >>>> 2. $400 / month (no exact measure, but about 150 sq. ft). - The BOX OFFICE (calling it that for short). Has a window, is just a few feet inside public-facing street-level doors in the same area as the LISTED ROOM. Also has WiFi Access. Sits directly outside a shared building "classroom" area available to all renters, just sign up ahead of time. If we rent the BOX OFFICE, we can occasionally use the LISTED ROOM while it's open >>>> >>>> 3. $350 / month (no exact measure, but no bigger than 400 sq ft) - The DOUBLE OFFICE is upstairs, at the very top of the entrance steps. It has access to an unused, common "reception" area that would be available for our usage. It has cable and wifi internet access. The DOUBLE OFFICE includes two offices that are connected, side-by-side. The rear door has >>>> >>>> All rooms have access to the "classroom" area on the ground floor, just need to sign up as described above. The building just got faster WIFI service provided by Sonic.net installed recently. George is interested in providing line-access to internet in all ground floor offices in the future, we could also do this ourselves he offered. >>>> >>>> Also, we can potentially rent multiple of these spaces, or move from one to other available spaces in the building at a later time. >>>> >>>> In order to move forward with this space (and not to lose footing), I have a proposal: >>>> >>>> Sudo Room should consider "dipping" it's toe into the BOX OFFICE space (no. 2 above) by investing a portion of our fund-raiser funds of $200 first month (50% off for move-in), $400 obligatory for last month (which can be july if we wish), and a redeemable $400 deposit--at a grand total of $1,000, lasting to at least July. This would only commit us to two months in the space, the first month of which (June) we can sort out all the precise governance, tax, and income issues, by consensus, in order to move forward (remain, expand, or move) with this space and our future! >>>> >>>> I propose we hold a discussion on this email thread, use our other online tools, convene an in-person meetup on Saturday (anywhere that's available), consider all the issues and list them on the wiki, convene briefly again on Sunday with whoever can make the "scout session" (still on), and plan to move forward on Monday having begun due diligence to consider if we have the blessings of our community! >>>> >>>> Please add notes in reply to this thread, on this pad (for anonymous communication too): https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudoroom and ultimately we'll put everything on the Wiki on Saturday to sort out by Monday. >>>> >>>> On clarifying note: it seems to me that it would be prudent to maintain the Sunday "scouting" event for due diligence reasons, and for future option reasons! >>>> >>>> // Matt >>>> >>>> p.s. Note that time is crucial because other folks (including some we bumped into while on tour) are also looking at these spaces, and with the first of the month approaching, it is in the property manager's best interest to move folks in soon. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sudoroom mailing list >>>> sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org >>>> http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Eddie A Tejeda >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sudoroom mailing list >>>> sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org >>>> http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sudoroom mailing list >>>> sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org >>>> http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sudoroom mailing list >>>> sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org >>>> http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sudoroom mailing list >> sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org >> http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom >> > > > _______________________________________________ > sudoroom mailing list > sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org > http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom > > > _______________________________________________ > sudoroom mailing list > sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org > http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom

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Fwd: [sudoroom] July Rent: Inversion of a Ponzi Scheme?

by Eddan Katz

Begin forwarded message: > From: Eddan Katz <eddan(a)oaklandlocal.com> > Subject: Re: [sudoroom] July Rent: Inversion of a Ponzi Scheme? > Date: July 16, 2012 12:47:24 PM PDT > To: sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org > > Hi Sudo folk. > > Due to overwhelming demand (i.e., a couple people asked me about it), I am extending the opportunity to participate in the paying of July rent to whomever else is interested, until the start of our meeting tonight at 2135 Broadway at 7pm. We are currently at 18 voluntary contributors (including myself), which makes it just below $32 per person. It would be great if others were also willing to chip so that we can make the Sudo-minyan of 23, as determined at last week's meeting. This would make it $25 per voluntary contributor to pay for July rent of our provisional current interim space. > > Since, according to the outlined schedule from the minutes - we will have made a compact for the Articles of Association just at the end of the month, I wanted to propose another experiment to try and pay for August rent. The amount will most likely be $875 by then (once accessibility to the second floor will most likely be resolved). I wanted to propose that we try the same $[rent]/n formula, but this time with n being groups or institutions. It would be great if we could get our like-minded friends in the area to enjoy our common spaces as well, especially the classroom. We could also solicit a wider range of art to be displayed for next Art Murmur on August 3. > > Can someone from the Mothership do a straw poll of interest in the invitation? And other sudo-represented groups among us? I'd gamble on being able to reach a Sudo-minyan of groups as well - and so will offer the eddan.com blog as a voluntary contributor. > > > I also wanted to propose that we hold a formal ceremony at the end of our meeting tonight to try and answer the question asked on our sudo-nymous pad - "How many hackers can you fit in a Sudo Room?" I propose that July rent contributors and/or their proxies would be called first to step into the box office room so that we can give an informed and empirical answer to the posed question. > > Sincerely, > Eddan > [Self-Appointed Exchequer] > > > On 7/4/12 6:54 PM, Hilary Naylor wrote: >> +1 (prefer Paypal) >> >> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Max Klein <isalix(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> I will pay $[rent]/n too. >>> >>> >>> On 3 July 2012 11:34, Victoria Bogdan <bogdan.victoria(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Also happy to contribute for July, so please add my name to the tally! >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Eddan Katz <eddan(a)oaklandlocal.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi Jehan - >>>>> >>>>> There are two keys for 2135 Broadway that have been duplicated and >>>>> distributed around so as to make getting a copy easier - those are the keys >>>>> to: (1) the Box Office; and (2) the Orange Closet. I recently made another >>>>> set of those keys though and would happily meet you there and give them to >>>>> you. The landlord has no restrictions on the number of duplicates. There is >>>>> also a key to the main door - for the door itself and the gate-lock when >>>>> opening up and closing down. There are only several of these keys, though >>>>> the landlord would be willing to make additional ones for an additional >>>>> $10/month. Since that door is usually already opened by 8am by one of the >>>>> tenants and generally only closed at around 11pm - that key would not be >>>>> relevant for many users of the space. >>>>> >>>>> I have also paid the July rent ($300) for the upstairs office at 2141 >>>>> Broadway, which has allowed us use of the reception area for the past couple >>>>> meetings. Accessibility is still only temporarily resolved with the >>>>> permission we've had from the landlord and the East Bay Meditation Center >>>>> where the elevator is, and therefore does not yet meet the criteria to which >>>>> we've committed in getting an appropriate Sudo Room space. I therefore >>>>> didn't think it would be appropriate to include that in the amount I was >>>>> asking from the Sudo folks on the list. If you want to start using that room >>>>> - let me know and I will make a copy for you as well. Right now, about 5 >>>>> people have keys to that room. My apologies for some of the junk lying >>>>> around - still making my way through it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Eddan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 7/3/12 9:15 AM, Jehan Tremback wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Cool, I can bring $50 by for the next meeting... are we meeting this >>>>> wednesday? I guess my question would be, once I have helped pay, how can I >>>>> access the space to work there? I would love to get started hackin' in our >>>>> new hackerspace. Which part of the building are we actually renting, and how >>>>> do I get in? >>>>> >>>>> -Jehan >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Eddan Katz <eddan(a)oaklandlocal.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Thanks for the immediate offers to help out - on and off list. I'm sorry >>>>>> if the intended tone of my suggestion didn't come across. I was actually a >>>>>> supporter of postponing the decision to use existing funds until we have a >>>>>> better sense of how we work and what we're about. I'm very glad to hear >>>>>> people think we're at a critical mass and are impatient to move forward. >>>>>> >>>>>> Given our current status as an unincorporated association of people, a >>>>>> proposal for voluntary contributions seemed to make the most sense. To >>>>>> clarify, I was hoping to use the occasion for paying July rent to expand our >>>>>> base of people who are connected and feel involved in Sudo Room. I am hoping >>>>>> that this would be incentive to get more people on board. It was not meant >>>>>> to be a suggestion for another fundraising campaign for Sudo Room. By >>>>>> suggesting that everyone give an equal amount, I think we can demonstrate >>>>>> how small that amount can be. >>>>>> >>>>>> For example, if 12 people go in together (including me) - then it will >>>>>> be less than $50. If split by 77 (the current number of email subscribers to >>>>>> the list) - it would be $7.50 each. If divided by 142 (number of likes on >>>>>> Facebook), we would each pay $4. >>>>>> >>>>>> There are many ways to cover mutual expenses without necessarily using a >>>>>> membership dues model. I think we should give ourselves the opportunity to >>>>>> try them out - at least in the interim. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> sent from +1(415) 728-5800 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 2, 2012, at 7:01 PM, "mattsenate(a)gmail.com" >>>>>> <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Eddan, >>>>>> >>>>>> I wish we were in a better position to have sorted this out before July, >>>>>> I am happy to kick in some cash, and I think we could get art murmur >>>>>> donations easily too. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tracy, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm very much interested in establishing, very soon, a way to contribute >>>>>> regular dues, and to take donations from people who use and appreciate sudo >>>>>> resources infrequently. >>>>>> >>>>>> However, it would be smart to establish what paying dues means. To me >>>>>> they should carry reasonable weight and an articulated benefit to the >>>>>> duepayer. This of course must cherish a commitment to access and >>>>>> participation not contingent on funds. I believe that is hat underlies this >>>>>> whole governance discussion. >>>>>> >>>>>> I plan to explain this position in more detail on wiki and with more >>>>>> resources! >>>>>> >>>>>> Join me http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Sudo_room/Governance_Structure >>>>>> >>>>>> - Matt >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Reply message ----- >>>>>> From: "Tracy Jacobs" <kinetical(a)comcast.net> >>>>>> Date: Mon, Jul 2, 2012 5:51 pm >>>>>> Subject: [sudoroom] July Rent: Inversion of a Ponzi Scheme? >>>>>> To: "Eddan Katz" <eddan(a)oaklandlocal.com> >>>>>> Cc: <sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry Eddan, >>>>>> >>>>>> I can give you fifty dollars for July when I next see you or by >>>>>> paypal if you prefer. I don't understand the politics here or why we >>>>>> are not deciding to pay some dues for rent. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tracy >>>>>> >>>>>> Tracy >>>>>> On Jul 2, 2012, at 5:32 PM, Eddan Katz wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> At the decision-making in-gathering last week, it was decided not to >>>>>>> make a decision about existing Sudo Room fund-raising income to be >>>>>>> used to pay rent at 2135 Broadway, at this time. The rationale being >>>>>>> that we've had a hard enough time making a decision about how to >>>>>>> make decisions that the process should probably not be complicated >>>>>>> any further. I applaud our resilience of deliberation, but then >>>>>>> there is the matter of July rent. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would like to propose something not on behalf of Sudo Room >>>>>>> officially, but that I hope will help us accomplish our goals, at >>>>>>> this time. The rent due for July for the "Box Office" and "Orange >>>>>>> Closet" amounts to $575. Since the "box office" will be central to >>>>>>> our Art Murmur happening and the "orange closet" continues to be >>>>>>> filled in our obsolete technology drive, I wanted to ask the good >>>>>>> Sudo folk on this list to pitch in for that amount. Tracy already >>>>>>> gave me $40 last week and Marc publicly announced his willingness to >>>>>>> give me $60 on-list. I want to make sure that everyone is clear >>>>>>> about the fact that if you would like to give me money at any time, >>>>>>> you are most welcome to. I have accounts with most mobile and online >>>>>>> payment providers, if that makes it any easier. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But in terms of the $575 for July rent at 2135 Broadway, I wanted to >>>>>>> continue in our straw poll practice of gauging how many people would >>>>>>> be willing to chip in. If you're willing to go in together on rent >>>>>>> for the space in July, please reply to this email with a +1 (to me >>>>>>> and/or the list). By 6pm on Friday (the start of Art Murmur), I will >>>>>>> ask these voluntary contributors to give me $575 divided by the >>>>>>> number of people willing to volunteer. Needless to say - the higher >>>>>>> the number of people contributing, the lower the contribution >>>>>>> amount. If the number of contributors results in a sum too steep for >>>>>>> any volunteer in particular, the Art Murmur event could be an >>>>>>> opportunity to draw in others to cover that amount. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This contribution does not constitute membership in Sudo Room, nor >>>>>>> does it enable special voting power, the use of a shelf, or a free t- >>>>>>> shirt. I was hoping though to get some help to display a running >>>>>>> list of the names of contributors against one of the walls at 2135 >>>>>>> Broadway on Friday. If someone objects to the use of this list to >>>>>>> solicit July rent for and/or to the display of the names of this >>>>>>> group on the wall, please speak up and/or use the anonymous Sudo >>>>>>> pages to voice your concerns. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Eddan >>>>>>> [self-appointed exchequer] >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> sudoroom mailing list >>>>>>> sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org >>>>>>> http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> sudoroom mailing list >>>>>> sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org >>>>>> http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> sudoroom mailing list >>>>>> sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org >>>>>> http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> sudoroom mailing list >>>>> sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org >>>>> http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> __ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> victoriabogdan.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sudoroom mailing list >>>> sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org >>>> http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sudoroom mailing list >>> sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org >>> http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom >>> >> >> > >

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Fwd: [sudoroom] **CRITICAL** Update for 2135 broadway (Folks Meeting at 5PM tonight at Awaken Cafe)

by Eddan Katz

Begin forwarded message: > From: Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [sudoroom] **CRITICAL** Update for 2135 broadway (Folks Meeting at 5PM tonight at Awaken Cafe) > Date: June 2, 2012 10:14:20 AM PDT > To: sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org > > Matt, Eddan, and Timon, > > Thank you for your efforts on this! It's so surprising when things happen fast all of a sudden... > > Before I get into thoughts about the space, following up on Matt's suggestion, we'll be Awaken Cafe downtown starting at 5PM to meet up. If you can make it, come by. If a different time tonight works better for you, send an email to the list. > > > Regarding the space itself, what a fantastic opportunity! This is an absolutely ideal location, is accessible, has a friendly landlord, has month to month rent, is within our estimated budget, has wifi, has a street-facing option, and offers future flexibility to move into more spaces and/or between spaces. > > My feeling is that the "box office" option (plus perhaps one of the upstairs rooms and regular access to the classroom) is an excellent starter opportunity for beginning to work on the kinds of things that everyone actually wants to do. > > I also think that there are two benefits to having the space beyond actually having the space: > > 1) A visible space brings in new potential members (and more potential money) > 2) A space helps all of us sudoers to maintain energy, momentum, and interest with something to focus on and work to maintain - it creates "facts on the ground," so to speak. > > Finally, if we wait for the perfect space, it may never come. This spot fits the initial sudo "room" concept we've been thinking about the last few months (it's short-term, flexible, small initial capital required, and allows for expansion). > > I really support it. > > Look forward to seeing all of you tonight at 5 at awaken cafe downtown if you can make it, and if not, tomorrow at the scouting event at 2PM at OG Plaza (bring bike if you have it). > > - Marina > > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Jenny Ryan <jenny(a)thepyre.org> wrote: > Matt, and also Eddan & Timon - thanks for moving on this! I think this could be a fantastic initial space for Sudo Room.. > > Location is great, though 150 square feet is absurdly small. How big is the classroom we could use? > > Overpriced for the size, imho, but the visibility we could definitely work wrt outreach for the group... though with the rest of the building's amenities available to us, might be a good bet. > > Would love to meet on Saturday, though would have to be early afternoon for me to make it (send-off party for our yurt builder & current resident, Morten, in our garden on Saturday starting around 4! email me if you'd like to come :) > > Jenny > http://jennyryan.net > http://thepyre.org > http://thevirtualcampfire.org > http://technomadic.tumblr.com > > `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` > "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." > -Laurie Anderson > > "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." > -Hannah Arendt > > "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." > -Stéphane Mallarmé > ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` > > > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Eddie A Tejeda <eddie.tejeda(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Matt.. thanks for leading this. I think this is a great opportunity. If I understand this correctly, there are multiple spaces available and we can start with one and move into other ones as needed? If that's the case I think it makes perfect sense to start with the smaller space and grow as needed. > > I also this it's a cool location. When do you need to make the decision by? > > -- > Eddie A Tejeda > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 11:48 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Howdy Folks, > > We've been in search of a space. There are lots of options, and bigger, brighter futures rest on the horizon. > > On Weds, Eddan found this listing on craigslist: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/3036298243.html seen here: https://maps.google.com/?q=loc:+Broadway+at+22nd+Street+Oakland+CA+US&ll=37… > > > I gave George, the property manager, a call. I had seen some other offices in his space months before, he has lots of spaces and they come up for rent often. All month-to-month contracts, and a lease if we really want one He said he was available today at 3pm. I showed up and Eddan and Timon joined in. > > > We saw three offices. I have photographs stored on a proprietary memory device and will retrieve them ASAP upon apprehension of the proper cable. > > 1. $500 / month 350 sq ft - The LISTED ROOM - has WiFi access, on the ground floor, outlets, lights. It is a good deal for the size, but it is not very close to the street. One must walk through a hallway, through a half-office, and down another hallway (all disability accessible) to get to it. This is not bad, just a bit removed from public view. > > 2. $400 / month (no exact measure, but about 150 sq. ft). - The BOX OFFICE (calling it that for short). Has a window, is just a few feet inside public-facing street-level doors in the same area as the LISTED ROOM. Also has WiFi Access. Sits directly outside a shared building "classroom" area available to all renters, just sign up ahead of time. If we rent the BOX OFFICE, we can occasionally use the LISTED ROOM while it's open > > 3. $350 / month (no exact measure, but no bigger than 400 sq ft) - The DOUBLE OFFICE is upstairs, at the very top of the entrance steps. It has access to an unused, common "reception" area that would be available for our usage. It has cable and wifi internet access. The DOUBLE OFFICE includes two offices that are connected, side-by-side. The rear door has > > All rooms have access to the "classroom" area on the ground floor, just need to sign up as described above. The building just got faster WIFI service provided by Sonic.net installed recently. George is interested in providing line-access to internet in all ground floor offices in the future, we could also do this ourselves he offered. > > Also, we can potentially rent multiple of these spaces, or move from one to other available spaces in the building at a later time. > > In order to move forward with this space (and not to lose footing), I have a proposal: > > Sudo Room should consider "dipping" it's toe into the BOX OFFICE space (no. 2 above) by investing a portion of our fund-raiser funds of $200 first month (50% off for move-in), $400 obligatory for last month (which can be july if we wish), and a redeemable $400 deposit--at a grand total of $1,000, lasting to at least July. This would only commit us to two months in the space, the first month of which (June) we can sort out all the precise governance, tax, and income issues, by consensus, in order to move forward (remain, expand, or move) with this space and our future! > > I propose we hold a discussion on this email thread, use our other online tools, convene an in-person meetup on Saturday (anywhere that's available), consider all the issues and list them on the wiki, convene briefly again on Sunday with whoever can make the "scout session" (still on), and plan to move forward on Monday having begun due diligence to consider if we have the blessings of our community! > > Please add notes in reply to this thread, on this pad (for anonymous communication too): https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudoroom and ultimately we'll put everything on the Wiki on Saturday to sort out by Monday. > > On clarifying note: it seems to me that it would be prudent to maintain the Sunday "scouting" event for due diligence reasons, and for future option reasons! > > // Matt > > p.s. Note that time is crucial because other folks (including some we bumped into while on tour) are also looking at these spaces, and with the first of the month approaching, it is in the property manager's best interest to move folks in soon. > > _______________________________________________ > sudoroom mailing list > sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org > http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom > > > > > -- > Eddie A Tejeda > > > _______________________________________________ > sudoroom mailing list > sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org > http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom > > > > _______________________________________________ > sudoroom mailing list > sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org > http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom > > > _______________________________________________ > sudoroom mailing list > sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org > http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom

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Fwd: [sudoroom] Lease for 2141 Broadway + Meeting Minutes

by Eddan Katz

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Fwd: [sudoroom] Update on space @ 2141 Broadway

by Eddan Katz

Forwarding discussions and decisions made on the sudo-discuss list about 2141 Broadway for the last year and a half for relevant reference. Begin forwarded message: > From: "Jenny Ryan" <jenny(a)thepyre.org> > Subject: [sudoroom] Update on space @ 2141 Broadway > Date: October 21, 2012 7:05:34 PM PDT > To: Sudoroom <sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org> > > Hi folks, > > I've created a wiki page with detailed info about the spaces available at 2141 Broadway. Details here: http://sudoroom.org/wiki/2141_Broadway > > Major caveat/potential opportunity: A solar company has evidently earned George's favor for the rental of the front area (not really shown in the photos, but it's the front room with the big windows overlooking Broadway) and the far side office room (also not shown). They are open to sharing the large common area, but clearly we should establish a rapport and make sure they're chill before moving ahead on the space. Bonus: this would bring energy costs for the building down to null, as they'd be installing solar panels on the roof. > > I'm also composing an email invite to friends and neighbors we'd like to share a space with. The subject is 'Toward a Federation of East Bay Hackerspaces," because regardless of whether any of these groups decide to share this particular space with us, I think having regular conversations around how we can support each other's endeavors and work together to provide a holistic hacker-friendly environment for the entirety of the East Bay is essential. > > Currently on the invite list: > -LOLspace > -Coyote Counter Collective > -John (Berkeley fella who makes wheelchairs and specializes in mobility equipment hacking/repair) > -Biohacker friends > -Hackermoms > -Ace Monster Toys > -The Holdout > -Noisebridge (callout to NBers living in the East Bay) > -AnarchaFeminist Hacker Hive > > **Need contact info for: Fixit Clinic** > > The federation meetup will happen this Saturday, Oct 27th at noon. The front door to 2141 will be propped open, and we will gather in the space itself - up the stairs and through the door on the left. > > Plz post thoughts, opinions, ideas to this thread, or join us in #sudoroom on Freenode IRC (web portal here: http://sudoroom.org/chat). > > Be well, > Jenny > http://jennyryan.net > http://thepyre.org > http://thevirtualcampfire.org > http://technomadic.tumblr.com > > `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` > "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." > -Laurie Anderson > > "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." > -Hannah Arendt > > "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." > -Stéphane Mallarmé > ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` > > _______________________________________________ > sudoroom mailing list > sudoroom(a)lists.hackerspaces.org > http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/sudoroom

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Re: [sudo-hall] [sudospaces] Sudo Hall

by Matthew Senate

Was this meeting scheduled? // Matt On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:43 PM, mattsenate(a)gmail.com <mattsenate(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Friday works. > > // Matt > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: "Eddan Katz" <eddan(a)sudoroom.tv> > To: "mattsenate(a)gmail.com" <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> > Cc: "Romy Ilano" <romy(a)snowyla.com>, <sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org>, < > hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org> > Subject: [sudospaces] Sudo Hall > Date: Tue, Dec 3, 2013 13:42 > > > I can't do Thursday. Unless it's morning. > Fri. OK. > We can also schedule a particular time in the evening, though he doesn't > stick around too late. > > On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:36 PM, "mattsenate(a)gmail.com" <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > How about Thursday? > > // Matt > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: "Eddan Katz" <eddan(a)sudoroom.tv> > To: "Romy Ilano" <romy(a)snowyla.com> > Cc: "sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org>, " > hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org> > Subject: [sudospaces] Sudo Hall > Date: Tue, Dec 3, 2013 13:10 > > > update -- > George said he was available to meet in the late afternoon any day this > week to talk about possibilities for rental/purchase/co-op for the whole > Sudo wing of the building. > I wanted to know if anyone else was interested in joining this > conversation. > Wednesday would be most convenient for me. > > -- > In regards to the use of hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org - here are some > preliminary ideas I had: > Increase transparency. > It would be useful to get some ideas kicked around about how to possibly > structure this and see what Sudo Hall can try and bargain for in terms of > gradual increase in rent and other innovative incentives such as those > PopUp Oakland have been negotiating for on behalf of their community > partners. > Get a reasonable sense of timelines and flesh out what is involved in more > complicated arrangements - such as the equity sale to institutional > (groups) membership as a cooperative corporation. > > > On Dec 2, 2013, at 9:39 PM, Romy Ilano <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote: > > Thanks Eddan, I've subscribed to sudohall. > > I think it is nice to have a more serious list - the discussions on > sudoDiscuss are not so action-oriented. > > > On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:53 AM, eddan.com <eddan(a)sudoroom.tv> wrote: > >> Dear Sudo folk. >> >> Our landlords have expressed their frustration that our current use of >> the common area has deterred their ability to rent out the other units in >> the Sudo wing of 2141 Broadway. >> >> Apparently, Robert Wenzel - the other tenant (other than the Bay Area >> Public School), who preceded all of our occupancy of the space at 2141 >> Broadway, has moved his office in frustration over the common area, in >> particular as a result of people consistently sleeping there. >> >> The use of the common area as space being sub-leased to groups >> unconnected with the current tenants has also been a cause of >> miscommunication over our current lease. While our landlords are in full >> support of our making it a popular community space, our current practices >> have diverged from their hopes of how they want the space to be used. >> >> For those who are interested in exploring possibilities for >> renting/buying/creating a coop at the current location, a listserv has been >> created to facilitate the development of such a plan under the interim >> codename Sudo Hall. Please feel free to sign up at: >> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/hall >> >> The objective of this forum is to complement the research and discussion >> that has been ongoing regarding spaces suitable for Sudo Room activities >> and of interest to the Sudo Room constellation of communities. The >> sudospaces list can continue to be (or begin to be, more accurately) the >> appropriate venue for sharing such information and enabling coordination to >> take advantage of the opportunities that come up. >> >> Given our lease renewal deadline of the end of the year, I imagine that >> the new Sudo Hall list can reduce the overlapping confusion of coalescing >> like-minded groups for shared and common purposes; and the exploration of >> physical spaces where this collective of collectives finds its home(s). >> >> Amongst the communities I am personally most interested in reaching in >> the immediate term are those who could make best use of the >> dance/yoga/pilates studio space with the wooden floor in between Sudo Room >> and the Bay Area Public School. >> >> It is my hope that the prudent use of these two lists for their >> complementary purposes can minimize friction between competing interests >> and ideas and rather serve to enable cooperative planning in a transparent >> way while not interfering with all the projects that are ongoing. The >> general community can be updated (through sudo-discuss) at critical >> junctures in the evolution of developing plans. >> >> >> >> sent from eddan.com >> _______________________________________________ >> sudospaces mailing list >> sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudospaces >> > > > >

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Re: [sudo-hall] [sudospaces] Sudo Hall

by mattsenate＠gmail.com

Friday works. // Matt ----- Reply message ----- From: "Eddan Katz" <eddan(a)sudoroom.tv> To: "mattsenate(a)gmail.com" <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> Cc: "Romy Ilano" <romy(a)snowyla.com>, <sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org>, <hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org> Subject: [sudospaces] Sudo Hall Date: Tue, Dec 3, 2013 13:42 I can't do Thursday. Unless it's morning.Fri. OK. We can also schedule a particular time in the evening, though he doesn't stick around too late. On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:36 PM, "mattsenate(a)gmail.com" <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> wrote:How about Thursday? // Matt ----- Reply message ----- From: "Eddan Katz" <eddan(a)sudoroom.tv> To: "Romy Ilano" <romy(a)snowyla.com> Cc: "sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org>, "hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org> Subject: [sudospaces] Sudo Hall Date: Tue, Dec 3, 2013 13:10 update --George said he was available to meet in the late afternoon any day this week to talk about possibilities for rental/purchase/co-op for the whole Sudo wing of the building.I wanted to know if anyone else was interested in joining this conversation.Wednesday would be most convenient for me. --In regards to the use of hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org - here are some preliminary ideas I had:Increase transparency.It would be useful to get some ideas kicked around about how to possibly structure this and see what Sudo Hall can try and bargain for in terms of gradual increase in rent and other innovative incentives such as those PopUp Oakland have been negotiating for on behalf of their community partners. Get a reasonable sense of timelines and flesh out what is involved in more complicated arrangements - such as the equity sale to institutional (groups) membership as a cooperative corporation. On Dec 2, 2013, at 9:39 PM, Romy Ilano <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:Thanks Eddan, I've subscribed to sudohall. I think it is nice to have a more serious list - the discussions on sudoDiscuss are not so action-oriented. On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:53 AM, eddan.com <eddan(a)sudoroom.tv> wrote: Dear Sudo folk. Our landlords have expressed their frustration that our current use of the common area has deterred their ability to rent out the other units in the Sudo wing of 2141 Broadway. Apparently, Robert Wenzel - the other tenant (other than the Bay Area Public School), who preceded all of our occupancy of the space at 2141 Broadway, has moved his office in frustration over the common area, in particular as a result of people consistently sleeping there. The use of the common area as space being sub-leased to groups unconnected with the current tenants has also been a cause of miscommunication over our current lease. While our landlords are in full support of our making it a popular community space, our current practices have diverged from their hopes of how they want the space to be used. For those who are interested in exploring possibilities for renting/buying/creating a coop at the current location, a listserv has been created to facilitate the development of such a plan under the interim codename Sudo Hall. Please feel free to sign up at: http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/hall The objective of this forum is to complement the research and discussion that has been ongoing regarding spaces suitable for Sudo Room activities and of interest to the Sudo Room constellation of communities. The sudospaces list can continue to be (or begin to be, more accurately) the appropriate venue for sharing such information and enabling coordination to take advantage of the opportunities that come up. Given our lease renewal deadline of the end of the year, I imagine that the new Sudo Hall list can reduce the overlapping confusion of coalescing like-minded groups for shared and common purposes; and the exploration of physical spaces where this collective of collectives finds its home(s). Amongst the communities I am personally most interested in reaching in the immediate term are those who could make best use of the dance/yoga/pilates studio space with the wooden floor in between Sudo Room and the Bay Area Public School. It is my hope that the prudent use of these two lists for their complementary purposes can minimize friction between competing interests and ideas and rather serve to enable cooperative planning in a transparent way while not interfering with all the projects that are ongoing. The general community can be updated (through sudo-discuss) at critical junctures in the evolution of developing plans. sent from eddan.com _______________________________________________ sudospaces mailing list sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudospaces

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Re: [sudo-hall] [sudospaces] Sudo Hall

by mattsenate＠gmail.com

How about Thursday? // Matt ----- Reply message ----- From: "Eddan Katz" <eddan(a)sudoroom.tv> To: "Romy Ilano" <romy(a)snowyla.com> Cc: "sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org>, "hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org> Subject: [sudospaces] Sudo Hall Date: Tue, Dec 3, 2013 13:10 update --George said he was available to meet in the late afternoon any day this week to talk about possibilities for rental/purchase/co-op for the whole Sudo wing of the building.I wanted to know if anyone else was interested in joining this conversation.Wednesday would be most convenient for me. --In regards to the use of hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org - here are some preliminary ideas I had:Increase transparency.It would be useful to get some ideas kicked around about how to possibly structure this and see what Sudo Hall can try and bargain for in terms of gradual increase in rent and other innovative incentives such as those PopUp Oakland have been negotiating for on behalf of their community partners. Get a reasonable sense of timelines and flesh out what is involved in more complicated arrangements - such as the equity sale to institutional (groups) membership as a cooperative corporation. On Dec 2, 2013, at 9:39 PM, Romy Ilano <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:Thanks Eddan, I've subscribed to sudohall. I think it is nice to have a more serious list - the discussions on sudoDiscuss are not so action-oriented. On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:53 AM, eddan.com <eddan(a)sudoroom.tv> wrote: Dear Sudo folk. Our landlords have expressed their frustration that our current use of the common area has deterred their ability to rent out the other units in the Sudo wing of 2141 Broadway. Apparently, Robert Wenzel - the other tenant (other than the Bay Area Public School), who preceded all of our occupancy of the space at 2141 Broadway, has moved his office in frustration over the common area, in particular as a result of people consistently sleeping there. The use of the common area as space being sub-leased to groups unconnected with the current tenants has also been a cause of miscommunication over our current lease. While our landlords are in full support of our making it a popular community space, our current practices have diverged from their hopes of how they want the space to be used. For those who are interested in exploring possibilities for renting/buying/creating a coop at the current location, a listserv has been created to facilitate the development of such a plan under the interim codename Sudo Hall. Please feel free to sign up at: http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/hall The objective of this forum is to complement the research and discussion that has been ongoing regarding spaces suitable for Sudo Room activities and of interest to the Sudo Room constellation of communities. The sudospaces list can continue to be (or begin to be, more accurately) the appropriate venue for sharing such information and enabling coordination to take advantage of the opportunities that come up. Given our lease renewal deadline of the end of the year, I imagine that the new Sudo Hall list can reduce the overlapping confusion of coalescing like-minded groups for shared and common purposes; and the exploration of physical spaces where this collective of collectives finds its home(s). Amongst the communities I am personally most interested in reaching in the immediate term are those who could make best use of the dance/yoga/pilates studio space with the wooden floor in between Sudo Room and the Bay Area Public School. It is my hope that the prudent use of these two lists for their complementary purposes can minimize friction between competing interests and ideas and rather serve to enable cooperative planning in a transparent way while not interfering with all the projects that are ongoing. The general community can be updated (through sudo-discuss) at critical junctures in the evolution of developing plans. sent from eddan.com _______________________________________________ sudospaces mailing list sudospaces(a)lists.sudoroom.org http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudospaces

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