28 Aug
2016
28 Aug
'16
3:30 p.m.
i saw Max B looking through the sudomesh gear and i told him that i thought
he had quit the sudomesh project & asked what he was doing. He told me to
"fuck off" and i asked him to leave for violating our safe space policy. He
walked back in the front door after i walked him out the side door & when
he saw me he claimed he wanted to grab a spool of ethernet cable. i told
him to contact sudomesh to get whatever materials he claims are his.
i noticed he took a pair of rj45 crimpers (blue handle) which he claimed
were his.
~r
28 Aug
28 Aug
3:54 p.m.
I did tell rob to fuck off. This was after he tried to bully me (for the
second time in the last year) out of a space in which I am also a member.
I was at sudoroom in the sudomesh shelves looking for a few things which
I paid for out of my own pocket and had never received any compensation
for. I have receipts for the rj45ez crimper, the outdoor shielded cable,
and some rj45s. I'm happy to show them to anyone who asks. Rob came over
and tried to act as sudoroom police, telling me that I couldn't be there
and that I couldn't get my things. I told him that while I wasn't a
member of sudomesh anymore, I was in fact a sudoroom member and that I
was retrieving a few things that were mine. He continued to tell me I
couldn't be there. I became emotional and told him to "fuck off". At
that point he became totally irate and told me that I had to leave,
putting his body in the way of me getting my things.
At that point, short of a physical altercation, there was nothing I
could do, so I walked out of the building. I reached my car and realized
that I only had the crimpers, but I really need the cable for a project
I'm working on this week, so I went back in the front door. Rob was
there and got mad again. I told him that I just wanted the cable that
was mine. He said that I couldn't be in the building, but if I went
outside I could show him the receipt and he would get the cable for him.
I opened my computer to get the receipt and looked through my emails.
Shortly after, he told me that he wasn't in the mood to help me and that
I could arrange with sudomesh to get it some other time. At that point I
left.
I need the cable this coming week. I'm planning on coming back tomorrow
(24 hours temp ban or whatever) to get it. I've already been completely
and totally let down by the "mediation" process at sudoroom. Several
core members of the omni can attest to that and it's something which
I'll discuss with anyone, though I don't need to publicly shame folks.
After I get my things, I suppose Rob and company can decide if they
really want to go forwards with mediation after what happened the last time.
I was actually only planning on borrowing MY THINGS for a few days.
Max
On 8/28/16 3:30 PM, robb wrote:
i saw Max B looking through the sudomesh gear and i
told him that i thought
he had quit the sudomesh project & asked what he was doing. He told me to
"fuck off" and i asked him to leave for violating our safe space policy. He
walked back in the front door after i walked him out the side door & when
he saw me he claimed he wanted to grab a spool of ethernet cable. i told
him to contact sudomesh to get whatever materials he claims are his.
i noticed he took a pair of rj45 crimpers (blue handle) which he claimed
were his.
~r
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4:04 p.m.
Moving lists to Bcc. Please contact me if you both want to have mediation.
It sounds like there was a general misunderstanding that can be quickly
resolved at least in this specific case. We're all under a lot of stress,
and things can easily escalate. Let's chill for a day or so and see what
is feasible then.
-Julio
On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 3:54 PM Max B <maxb.personal(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I did tell rob to fuck off. This was after he tried to
bully me (for the
second time in the last year) out of a space in which I am also a member.
I was at sudoroom in the sudomesh shelves looking for a few things which
I paid for out of my own pocket and had never received any compensation
for. I have receipts for the rj45ez crimper, the outdoor shielded cable,
and some rj45s. I'm happy to show them to anyone who asks. Rob came over
and tried to act as sudoroom police, telling me that I couldn't be there
and that I couldn't get my things. I told him that while I wasn't a
member of sudomesh anymore, I was in fact a sudoroom member and that I
was retrieving a few things that were mine. He continued to tell me I
couldn't be there. I became emotional and told him to "fuck off". At
that point he became totally irate and told me that I had to leave,
putting his body in the way of me getting my things.
At that point, short of a physical altercation, there was nothing I
could do, so I walked out of the building. I reached my car and realized
that I only had the crimpers, but I really need the cable for a project
I'm working on this week, so I went back in the front door. Rob was
there and got mad again. I told him that I just wanted the cable that
was mine. He said that I couldn't be in the building, but if I went
outside I could show him the receipt and he would get the cable for him.
I opened my computer to get the receipt and looked through my emails.
Shortly after, he told me that he wasn't in the mood to help me and that
I could arrange with sudomesh to get it some other time. At that point I
left.
I need the cable this coming week. I'm planning on coming back tomorrow
(24 hours temp ban or whatever) to get it. I've already been completely
and totally let down by the "mediation" process at sudoroom. Several
core members of the omni can attest to that and it's something which
I'll discuss with anyone, though I don't need to publicly shame folks.
After I get my things, I suppose Rob and company can decide if they
really want to go forwards with mediation after what happened the last
time.
I was actually only planning on borrowing MY THINGS for a few days.
Max
On 8/28/16 3:30 PM, robb wrote:
i saw Max B looking through the sudomesh gear and
i told him that i
thought
he had quit the sudomesh project & asked what
he was doing. He told me to
"fuck off" and i asked him to leave for violating our safe space policy.
He
walked back in the front door after i walked him
out the side door & when
he saw me he claimed he wanted to grab a spool of ethernet cable. i told
him to contact sudomesh to get whatever materials he claims are his.
i noticed he took a pair of rj45 crimpers (blue handle) which he claimed
were his.
~r
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4:42 p.m.
I've forwarded receipts for the cable and the crimper to relevant
individuals as I don't really want to share personal details with the
list. I need the cable this week so I'm coming by tomorrow to pick it
up. I'm happy to discuss any "mediation" off list.
On 8/28/16 4:04 PM, Julio Rios wrote:
Moving lists to Bcc. Please contact me if you both
want to have mediation.
It sounds like there was a general misunderstanding that can be quickly
resolved at least in this specific case. We're all under a lot of stress,
and things can easily escalate. Let's chill for a day or so and see what
is feasible then.
-Julio
On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 3:54 PM Max B <maxb.personal(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I did tell rob to fuck off. This was after he
tried to bully me (for the
second time in the last year) out of a space in which I am also a member.
I was at sudoroom in the sudomesh shelves looking for a few things which
I paid for out of my own pocket and had never received any compensation
for. I have receipts for the rj45ez crimper, the outdoor shielded cable,
and some rj45s. I'm happy to show them to anyone who asks. Rob came over
and tried to act as sudoroom police, telling me that I couldn't be there
and that I couldn't get my things. I told him that while I wasn't a
member of sudomesh anymore, I was in fact a sudoroom member and that I
was retrieving a few things that were mine. He continued to tell me I
couldn't be there. I became emotional and told him to "fuck off". At
that point he became totally irate and told me that I had to leave,
putting his body in the way of me getting my things.
At that point, short of a physical altercation, there was nothing I
could do, so I walked out of the building. I reached my car and realized
that I only had the crimpers, but I really need the cable for a project
I'm working on this week, so I went back in the front door. Rob was
there and got mad again. I told him that I just wanted the cable that
was mine. He said that I couldn't be in the building, but if I went
outside I could show him the receipt and he would get the cable for him.
I opened my computer to get the receipt and looked through my emails.
Shortly after, he told me that he wasn't in the mood to help me and that
I could arrange with sudomesh to get it some other time. At that point I
left.
I need the cable this coming week. I'm planning on coming back tomorrow
(24 hours temp ban or whatever) to get it. I've already been completely
and totally let down by the "mediation" process at sudoroom. Several
core members of the omni can attest to that and it's something which
I'll discuss with anyone, though I don't need to publicly shame folks.
After I get my things, I suppose Rob and company can decide if they
really want to go forwards with mediation after what happened the last
time.
I was actually only planning on borrowing MY THINGS for a few days.
Max
On 8/28/16 3:30 PM, robb wrote:
i saw Max B looking through the sudomesh gear and
i told him that i
thought
he had quit the sudomesh project & asked what
he was doing. He told me to
"fuck off" and i asked him to leave for violating our safe space policy.
He
walked back in the front door after i walked him
out the side door & when
he saw me he claimed he wanted to grab a spool of ethernet cable. i told
him to contact sudomesh to get whatever materials he claims are his.
i noticed he took a pair of rj45 crimpers (blue handle) which he claimed
were his.
~r
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