sudo-discuss January 2017

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34 participants
53 discussions

by Brendan Reddy-Best

I said "your 'community' space," but honestly, I still want this to be my space, too. I hardly ever make a fuss about any of this stuff because it's all so futile, you know? but in this case, I really want to make my point clear: I think we should rescind our action against Rannette. I think she's been treated unfairly. Even if she is "aggressive" towards you or your compatriots, I don't think we need white dudes policing our space of black women's bodies. Matt, you claim to have acted in another's interest and you offer an injured third party -- let them speak for themselves, because I don't think it's your place right now. If there was a violent incident that threatened our space, let's hear it from a witness or an involved party. "Something Happened" is not good enough. Otherwise "but above all the Omni Commons must maintain a safe, welcoming environment" seems to fly directly in the face of the lived experience of too many black people.

2 years, 8 months

Call for Facilitators / Participants in a sudo Men's Group

by Matthew Senate

Hey all, I wanted to reach out for some feedback. Seeking folks who would want to facilitate or participate in a men's group. I've previously participated in small groups like this and found them beneficial for various reasons. I would like to see if folks have had similar or different experiences. The way I'm thinking about this would culminate in something like a regular meeting for men in the sudo room community to discuss relevant issues including those of identity, oppression, privilege, patriarchy, gender, sexuality, stereotypes, safe space, and mutual support. This may not be the best or even a viable path to approach these topics, but I wanted to throw it out there to see if there is any interest. Thanks, Matt

3 years, 4 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] [CCL] Free Scanning Electron Microscope in Pleasanton! (was Fwd: [Microscopy] viaWWW:SMI3200 FIB system looking for a good home)

by Patrik D'haeseleer

Here's some images of the Seiko SMI 3200 Scanning Electron Microscope that is in need of a new home: http://www.beamservices.com/used-equipment.html http://www.caeonline.com/listing/product/9025735/seiko-smi-3200 Note that this is NOT a small system! It's not huge as SEM's go, but definitely not desktop - more like "small room sized". And it would obviously need some dedicated person to keep it in good running condition. It is however almost brand new, and currently *running*, at <5nm resolution! Beam Services Inc is down in Pleasanton, so I guess interested parties could potentially go and have a look at the system. This kind of equipment would be a significant commitment and investment in time and effort on our part, so let's coordinate on this shall we? Patrik On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Nathan McCorkle <nmz787(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Useful for micro and nano imaging, as well as micro and nano milling > and deposition (if it has a gas injector system). > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: <microscopylistserver-noreply(a)microscopy.com> > Date: Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 4:49 PM > Subject: [Microscopy] viaWWW:SMI3200 FIB system looking for a good home > To: nmz787(a)gmail.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The Microscopy ListServer -- CoSponsor: The Microscopy Society of America > To Subscribe/Unsubscribe -- > http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver > On-Line Help http://www.microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/FAQ.html > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > X-from: dan.buntman(a)beamservices.com > > This Question/Comment was submitted to the Microscopy Listserver > using the WWW based Form at > http://microscopy.com/MicroscopyListserver/MLFormMail.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Remember this posting is most likely not from a Subscriber, so when > replying > please copy both dan.buntman(a)beamservices.com as well as the > Microscopy Listserver > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Email: dan.buntman(a)beamservices.com > Name: Dan Buntman > > Organization: Beam Services, Inc. > > Title-Subject: [Filtered] SMI3200 FIB system looking for a good home > > Message: We have a Seiko SMI3200 FIB single beam system available for > donation to any university or > other non-profit organization. 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3 years, 11 months

sudoroom vinyl cutter setup and training

by Jake

here i'm replying to you and the sudoroom discuss list. does anyone at sudoroom want to host Cory to set up and demonstrate use of the vinyl cutter he donated? we will need a computer running windows (perhaps the laser cutter laptop?) and a DB9 gender bender adaptor for our rs232 to usb adaptor to fit. On Fri, 27 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote: > Fridays or during the day weekdays are usually best for me. Can you add > the sudoroom to this thread? Krystof is also interested in learning to use > it as well but I don't think I have his email > > On Jan 27, 2017 2:47 AM, "Jake" <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote: > > if you email the sudoroom discuss list about it, there will surely be people > who want to meet with you to learn how to use the vinyl cutter > > I'm at sudoroom every tuesday night,but when you came by i didn't arrive > until > right after you left. > > -jake > > > On Fri, 27 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote: > > Do you have any friends who have the free time? >> >> On Jan 27, 2017 1:38 AM, "Jake" <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote: >> >> no not yet, still need a db9 adaptor and a windows computer and some free >>> time... >>> >>> On Thu, 26 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote: >>> >>> Did you get it running? >>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 19, 2017 11:25 AM, "Jake" <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> ok got it, thanks! >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 19 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote: >>>>> >>>>> No, you can't have my adapter. I have the software. I can give you a >>>>> >>>>> download link. A straight through female to female should work for what >>>>>> you have now. or this: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/122202725149?vectorid=229466&lg >>>>>> eo=1&item=122202725149&rmvSB=true >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> i have a serial to USB, but the connector on the printer is the same as >>>>>> >>>>>> the >>>>>>> connector on the serial to USB, so they don't plug into one another. >>>>>>> Do >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> have the adaptor cable you were using? or know the pinout? does it >>>>>>> need a >>>>>>> null-modem adaptor or is it straight-across? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> do you have the specialized software? or know what it's called? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I was using a serial to USB. You can get them for $10 online. You >>>>>>> need >>>>>>> >>>>>>> specialized software to run it as well >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 12:42 AM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ok great! thanks for the donation! I was a little thrown off by the >>>>>>>> DB9M >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> connector on the printer, since DCE usually has a DB9F (female) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> do you have the serial cord you were using with it? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would also like to get you set up to use it. Let schedule a time >>>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> that could happen >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 7:46 PM, Cory Albert <pcalbert(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I dropped off the cutter and some of the vinyl. I have a bunch >>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> supplies to follow. Twice as much vinyl, extra supplies, car >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> magnets. I >>>>>>>>>>> also have an old pro Korg reverb effect module (rack mount) and an >>>>>>>>>>> old >>>>>>>>>>> MIDI >>>>>>>>>>> controller that I would like to donate as well. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 7:19 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> i'll be there soon >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -jake >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> (415)533-3699 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I am here with some stuff. Gonna bring it in >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 16, 2017 1:11 PM, "Jake" <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> yes ok >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 16 Jan 2017, Cory Albert wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can bring the goods tomorrow evening if that works good for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 20, 2016 5:00 PM, "Cory Albert" <pcalbert(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not gonna make it tonight. Maybe next week. You should >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PC that can be used to connect to the cutter. Windows 7 or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can get you setup. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 10:44 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we'll take it all and I look forward to meeting Cory if he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hardware >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hacking Tuesday at 7PM!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jake >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Dec 2016, Effie wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey friends, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope the question of which gear donations you want from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitively answered here? Seems to have literally got >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> swept >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eWaste conversation! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 3:30 PM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deed is done thanks to help from Ed and Morgan. Left >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speakers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chairs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in place as not really e-waste, also sorted some nice large >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> metal pieces over to the shop area. Some great >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perforated/vented >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~20Ga >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheet from that TV that's been taking up space. Still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> piled >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up on CCL border, and the robot area could use some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cleanup >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and/or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mounting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things to the wall tonight but space is looking great! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-12-13 11:58, Morgan Allen wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just finished lunch, be there in a couple minutes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 11:54 AM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm here and CRV 1/2way loaded up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-12-12 15:09, hol(a)gaskill.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed there is definitely more than will fit. Maybe convoy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both loaded up? I think if we can get one extra loader >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addition >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Morgan, I think Ed and I can handle all the unloading. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-12-12 13:40, Ed Biow wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey 'rades, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it looks like more than can comfortably fit in a CRV >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> holler >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I can materialize at about noon with my big-ass >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> F150. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Special Ed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/12/2016 01:14 PM, Morgan Allen wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can be there to help load but won't likely be able to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unload. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 11:23 AM, <hol(a)gaskill.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:hol@gaskill.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can do an Ewaste run tomorrow around noon - who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> load/unload? Thikning 2-3 people to help load at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ride shotgun and unload at facility. It's a CRV >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> huge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amount but should at least clear the walkway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jake what is the unloading environment like, do we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a pile and toss things or how does it work? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-12-11 20:29, Jake wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the e-waste run is ready when you are, look at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fridge, it's begging for it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you know when it's happening i can try to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> load the truck or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jake >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2016, Morgan Allen wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I second the yes yes yes. Can help with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e-waste >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Jake < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jake(a)spaz.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:jake@spaz.org>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not so fast, Robb says yes to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we need to do an e-waste run >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even have a place to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl cutter, as well as roll the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> printer/copier >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mystery thing out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> room and get it out of the building. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -jake >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2016, Cory Albert >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmm, I'll take that as a yes. I could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bring >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over next week >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sometime. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 5:29 PM, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> robb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sf99er(a)gmail.com <mailto: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sf99er(a)gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes, yes, yes, yes, yes! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 4:14 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PM, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jake >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jake(a)spaz.org <mailto: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jake(a)spaz.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention sudoroom: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do we want to accept a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> donation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cutter which comes with a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bunch of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rolls of different colors >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> material? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know noisebridge has one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a lot more space than >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand the rolls of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the space. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he says the machine works >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uses >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serial interface, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software. I think we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easily >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer to dedicate to it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't be a barrier to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to use it without going >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software oddysey first. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i'm guessing it looks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://productrealization.sta >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nford.edu/content/05-resources >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://productrealization.st >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anford.edu/content/05-resources> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /02-processes/10-vinyl-cutting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /header-images/vinyl-cutter-medium.jpg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 9 Dec 2016, Cory >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Albert >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jake: do you know of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> active in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> printed artist's spaces >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory could donate a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> big >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> roll >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and vinyl cutters to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sign >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sud >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oroom.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/lis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/li >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stinfo/sudo-discuss> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cory Albert >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415-670-0267 <tel:415-670-0267> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 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JQKTg26+csU4P2w0rEWsUsJombABEB >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AAHNJU1vcmdhbiBBbGxlbiA8bW9yZ2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FucmFsbGVuQGdtYWlsLmNvbT7CwFwE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EAECABAFAlG3btwJEG9pFLKaVEfeAA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> D7hwf+K8LN/kfgi8GTRLiTcuM+hSbm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uAeiBY+VaJIQFLzoFlt8A0hBlLNPFN >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NmUDxdPrMErdHgZ7HtJW/6RANuBTti >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5hr3EBguH1GQyK7BbUqJGvaEX4UNRe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j3uyX3ufXDsIB/3NsKaTyyu+SO0+Hv >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cn2DwmlfSXcPhoarx6Turizn/WwgtT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> N3tqrMWxxiCKWydLH5xYuz+23BLMdc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oF/zkbF+7ddFhmyfiFh4Ej9//tsfwP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j2cACU3uLTrcwCo7IxUtkrqMF/fhlm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LEqjhzDDjq9v7GNWb/5xB2xgTaucJ7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /ljuS8nPlZqwCI8NlTgSqC8nyVLyjS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yVtOzkItcS0UqyW1Mg== >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =V/Ia >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 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6 years, 2 months

Wi-Fi / Mesh at The Village (MLK & 36th, Marcus Garvey park aka Grove Shafter park)

by Sierk

Hello all, I just received a request from the people over at The Village, the encampment/occupation that was set up last week at the park on MLK & 36th. They wanted me to ask if people at the Sudoroom were able to help them get Wi-Fi set up over there. At one of last week's Assemblies Matt Senate suggested that Sudomesh was probably able to provide hardware for setting up an access point. The latest info I have (a few days old) is that Eli's across the street would be willing to share their connection, but I'm still verifying if that case. Would anyone interested to help be willing to either respond here, or preferably via Signal (my number is 510-771-7463). Thanks, I will report back once I know more details. Sierk

6 years, 3 months

FEB 19th in Ballroom: Musicians and DIY Electronics Swap Meet

by Jake

Hi Erik!!!!!! so nice to hear from you! I would love for you to have the event at Omni!! we have a booking system and here's a link. I just looked at the calendar for you (which is the first step) and it looks to me like February 19th is clear!!!!!!! That's assuming you want the main ballroom, which i think would be awesome. https://omnicommons.org/occupy don't worry about the second tuesday thing.. just say that Jake from Sudoroom wants to sponsor this event and that we want to reserve the ballroom for that date. As soon as your request comes in, i'll push to get it confirmed. I'm assuming we can collect donations of some kind to give to the Omni for use of the space? Just whatever is normal for an event like this at Gilman i guess. That's one of the questions on the form you'll see at the above link. Also, sudoroom will be able to supply a lot of cool electronic STUFF for the tables, so i think people who come to this will be very pleased. -jake note: sudoroom constantly has a big e-waste pile, and if you think the event will add to the unwanted electronics pile, we should plan for someone to take a truck to Universal Waste in Fruitvale after the event to clear it all out. On Wed, 25 Jan 2017, Erik Miller wrote: > Jake, > > I hope you have been well. Mitch Altman gave me this email address, and I > have been trying to reach you over the past couple of years using what I > think must be out-of-date contact information. > > I wanted to ask about how Sudo Room is doing and all that, but Mitch says > it’s thriving. I’ve been to the website a couple of times and was amazed and > amused to find out that (according to the website anyway) you are in the old > Omni building. I worked for Nady Systems from 1986 to 1991, right during the > time when it was a thriving venue for at first a pretty cool eclectic mix, > and then later, pay-to-play hair metal. > > Anyway, 924 Gilman told me that the traditional 3rd Sunday in February would > be fine, and I printed up a pile of handbills and started to go around > promoting the event, an event page on Facebook that got really good > attention, and my first physical stop being Ace Monster Toys’ open house > night. I really want to lay into the “DIY Electronics” part this year, as we > have attracted plenty of the “Musicians” part in the past couple of them and > I want to balance it out and get back to the kind of thing where you and > Mitch met, get the maker/hardware hacker/tinkerers interested. I have a > variety of surplus components to give away, a bit of redistribution that I > figured you would like. > > Anyway, right after my visit to Ace, Gilman’s booker told me that the day > they had promised had been taken for an event that the landlord (The Caning > Shop) was doing, and suggested February 26th, the following Sunday. > > Now they are telling me that there’s something going on that day and how > about Saturday the 25th? > > It’s just a month away at this point and I need to be able to promote it with > a definite date, and I would like a Sunday. > > My question: is there enough space for it at Sudo Room, and would you be > interested in hosting the event this year? It would be on Sunday the 19th > (the original date) or Sunday the 26th. > > Please let me know yea or nay ASAP, as our time frame to promote the event is > ever narrowing. > > Cheers, > Erik Miller > Euthymia Electronics > 510-872-9458 >

6 years, 3 months

Linux Install Party! Tonight.

by Lesley Bell

Happy New Years Eve! Are you sick of Windows 10 showing you ads on the start menu? Get Linux! (Or just come dance.) Omni Ballroom 8PM BYOB Bring a USB drive if you have one and want to do an install. [image: 2017.gif]

6 years, 3 months

LibreTaxi - free and open source Uber/Lyft alternative.

by Romy Ilano

Have any of you checked out libre taxi? Is it any good? http://libretaxi.org/ Sent from my iPhone

6 years, 3 months

ISPs will no longer send copyright alerts in the U.S.

by danarauz＠gmail.com

http://www.pcgamer.com/internet-service-providers-will-no-longer-send-copyr… Internet service providers will no longer send copyright alerts in the U.S.Failed strategy for fighting piracy. "For the past several years internet service providers (ISPs) have been sending copyright alerts to online pirates on behalf of movie studios and record labels. These letters often used intimidating language with threats of hefty fines and service throttling, but much to the dismay to those who supported the effort, the letters were about as effective as spitting in the ocean to raise the tide. Even so, many of those involved in the initiative called the voluntary program a success even though they're choosing not to extend it. “After four years of extensive consumer education and engagement, the Copyright Alert System will conclude its work. The program demonstrated that real progress is possible when content creators, internet innovators and consumer advocates come together in a collaborative and consensus-driven process. CAS succeeded in educating many people about the availability of legal content, as well as about issues associated with online infringement," members of the Center for Copyright Information said in a statement <http://www.copyrightinformation.org/statement/statement-on-the-copyright-al…> . The program offered considerable leeway to pirates. Potential penalties weren't levied until an offender ignored six or more warnings and generally did not include the cancellation of internet service. Part of the reason is that ISPs weren't comfortable with being liable for their customers' behavior and having to penalize them. It took years to hammer out an agreement between major ISPs and both the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) and Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA). Part of the agreement called for the creation of the Center for Copyright Information to take charge of the program and provide a way for those who received notices to challenge them in arbitration. While some are spinning the program as a successful education campaign, Steven Fabrizio, executive vice president and global general counsel at the MPAA, remains frustrated at the lack of results among the worst offenders. "These repeat infringers are the ones who drive ongoing and problematic P2P piracy. In fact, an estimated 981 million movies and TV shows were downloaded in the U.S. last year using P2P," Fabrizio said in a statement, according to Variety <http://variety.com/2017/digital/news/copyright-alerts-piracy-mpaa-comcast-a…> . As to the copyright alert system, Fabrizio said that even though a "significant number" of users stopped pirating content as a result of the alerts, the program "was simply not set up to deal with the hardcore repeat infringer problem." He also said that ultimately it's up to the ISPs to address the issue by leveraging the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). " -- Daniel Signal: 415.336.9143 <https://whispersystems.org/> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Help open a people-powered common space in Oakland, California! https://omnicommons.org/donate - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

6 years, 3 months

TV white spaces technology?

by Valent Turkovic

Hi, is anyone tracking how are things developing regarding TV white spaces technology [1] in US and EU? Microsoft has been doing some pilots [2] in Africa and Ofcom in UK [3], and there is a interesting study [4]. But I don't see if it is actually possible to buy any 2nd or 3rf gen devices either in US or EU. If anyone has some links please share them. What is the current legal situation, will tv white spaces spectrum be free to use, ie ISM or not? I have seen some discussions at the end od 2015regarding making tv white spaces ISM but nothing since then. I was trying to find some up to date information for EU and tv white space technology, but came short. If anyone is tracking this please share any info you have. Thanks, Valent. [1] http://www.techrepublic.com/article/white-space-the-next-internet-disruptio… [2] https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/project/dynamic-spectrum-and-tv-wh… [3] https://www.ofcom.org.uk/about-ofcom/latest/media/media-releases/2015/tvws-… [4] https://5gnorma.5g-ppp.eu/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/2015-09-30-to-white-sp…

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