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Re: [sudo-discuss] $150 charge for not returning DSL equipment to sonic.net

by Jake

I found the modem. We should return it and get our $150 back. it's at about eye level on the equipment rack nearest the wall, upstairs. It doesn't have a power adaptor plugged into it, but i'm sure there's a nice 12v 1 or 2 amp power adaptor up there that goes with it. Max, can you tell them that we have it and we'd like to return it for credit? You can contact me to actually deliver it to them. thank you -jake On Thu Apr 16 Maximilian Klein wrote: FYI, sonic.net (our original ISP at sudo and the omni) charged our card $150 because we did not send back the modem, which I wrote to the list about one month ago. C'est la vie. From: Sonic.net Billing <billing at sonic.net> Date: Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 2:01 AM Subject: Sonic.net Invoice #7734422 <ooc at sonic.net> 4799 SHATTUCK AVE OAKLAND, CA 94609-2032 Charge overdue RMA for SRA06DD04 149.00

11 years, 2 months

Pick and place machine workshop 4/27 7pm

by Mengmeng Chen

Hi Everyone! Come and join us for a fun night where you will get a chance to learn about PCB assembly and operate the Pick & Place machine! Upon finishing the workshop, you will feel so empowered and ready to make your cool ideas come true. Optional registration at http://www.meetup.com/Hardware/events/221984919/ Instructor: Danny Chen, Seeed Manufacturing Specialist Agenda: 7:00 7:30 Talk about the PCBA process 7:30 8:00 Live demo with pick and place machine 8:00 9:00 Hands on operation of pick-and-place machine/Q&A If you have a hardware project in progress, you are more than welcomed to bring it along and see how we can help you improve it. Looking forward to seeing you there! Mengmeng -- Mengmeng Chen mengmeng.chen(a)seeed.cc | @mengmengdotchen <https://twitter.com/mengmengdotchen>

11 years, 2 months

robot is operational again!

by Jake

the giant robot arm is again functional. https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Giant_robot_arm unfortunately, in the process of repairing it we reset the memory and god-mode is no longer enabled, so we have to figure out which registers to edit to get it working again. Hopefully Ben can help, he figured it out the first time. yay robot!!! -jake

11 years, 2 months

Short Film Festival at the Omni! Submissions open!

by Noemie Serfaty

Dear all! Optik Allusions is putting together a short film festival at the Omni towards the end of May! https://omnicommons.org/…/OptikAllusions_Short_Film_Festival <https://omnicommons.org/wiki/OptikAllusions_Short_Film_Festival> Submissions are open till May 10th! And we'd love it if you put the word out that we welcome submissions. Our requirements: - Films that are under 20 minutes. - We'd like to feature works of local videographers, professional or not, and of all ages. - We'd like it to be a platform for points of views that are usually silenced. Put the word out or send us your wackiest masterpieces! Thanks and love Noémie

11 years, 2 months

Has anyone played with oculus or the other sdks??? Augmented reality

by Romy＠snowyla

Hey any sudofolks played with these sdks yet? It's all interesting / I'm not that interested at the moment though in looking at tons of links of what other people are doing (I can google that) Is anyone at Sudoroom doing stuff ??? Sent from my iPhone

11 years, 2 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] Accessibility Liaison?

by Robert Benson

are "building materials" short for construction dust? what are we even taking about here? the most olfactory offensive substances i've encountered we're compost methane - which has been fairly sever at times. things we could do: 1) clean bleach all trash/compost bins/buckets 2) sweep & mop all construction areas after work is done for the day. 3) cover all building materials with tarps/cloth 4) set up/install fans/ventilation 5) make sure fans are on prior to events

11 years, 2 months

balance between hacking and community center

by Romy Ilano

I'm sympathetic to the tension that exists for SudoRoom - are we a hackrrspace or a social worker community outreach center? I think it's cool to make suggestions, but it's cool also to respect boundaries. People were pushing for SudoRoom hackers to become at risk youth mentors and outreach coordinators. While I respect that work, i think there are a lot of cool folks involved in social work who are great at that stuff. It's certainly not easy! and not for everyone. As a woman I'm often pressure to be involved in initiatives for educating children in ways I don't feel hacker men are. It's almost like a second or third job! I guess it's just part of societal expectations =D Overall it's a good thing though. It's cool being around activists, social workers, etc. It might be nice to push the lines, but it might also be unhealthy for social workers to interfere too much and not let hackers be hackers. Educating kids is great, but this is a primarily adult space with a lot of dangerous stuff. The pressure on female hackers especially to provide free babysitting and childcare for random children is also an understandable misunderstanding but needs to be gently pushed back. thanks for being diverse! ============================= Romy Ilano romy(a)snowyla.com

11 years, 2 months

Accessibility Liaison?

by niki

Hello friends, Someone came in today who was very concerned with our efforts to make our space truly accessible - she was particularly concerned with building improvements and the impact on those with chemical sensitivities. She was also concerned with the sound system at today's event as there were some issues w/it that made it difficult for people to hear. She asked us to not use any materials that will inhibit those with chemical sensitivities from accessing the space and to create communication around our accessibility and needs. She asked to see our plan for how we will do this. We don't have this scoped out currently and I'm wondering if someone would be willing to take on the task of researching this issue and making recommendations to the building Working Group as well as drawing up a basic outline for providing greater accessibility. Can someone volunteer for this? xo N

11 years, 2 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] Accessibility Liaison?

by Robert Benson

from my perspective the greatest challenges that we face on this issue are organic in nature. keeping lids on compost, regular disinfecting & improved ventilation might be a good 1st step. i'll bleach the trash room after the trash goes out pm On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:52 AM, <sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org> wrote: > [image: Boxbe] <https://www.boxbe.com/overview> This message is eligible > for Automatic Cleanup! (sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org) Add > cleanup rule > <https://www.boxbe.com/popup?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.boxbe.com%2Fcleanup%3Ftok…> > | More info > <http://blog.boxbe.com/general/boxbe-automatic-cleanup?tc_serial=21093486059…> > > Send sudo-discuss mailing list submissions to > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > sudo-discuss-owner(a)lists.sudoroom.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of sudo-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Event: Cartoonist Conspiracy Evening at SudoRoom Thursday > Nights (Romy Ilano) > 2. Fwd: Event: Cartoonist Conspiracy Evening at SudoRoom > Thursday Nights (Romy Ilano) > 3. Is anyone blogging their hack projects? (Romy Ilano) > 4. The harry potter room in sudo is now locked (Marc Juul) > 5. San Francisco Music Venue Struggles to Stay Open as Rents > Rise (Romy@snowyla) > 6. ParaView - simplify MRI 3D models (Romy@snowyla) > 7. Re: The harry potter room in sudo is now locked (Ryan) > 8. Re: The harry potter room in sudo is now locked > (Patrik D'haeseleer) > 9. Re: The harry potter room in sudo is now locked (Ryan) > 10. Accessibility Liaison? (niki) > 11. Re: [omni-discuss] Accessibility Liaison? (Ryan) > 12. Re: [omni-building] [omni-discuss] Accessibility Liaison? > (Laura Turiano) > 13. Re: [omni-building] [omni-discuss] Accessibility Liaison? (Ryan) > 14. Re: [omni-building] [omni-discuss] Accessibility Liaison? (niki) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 16:48:50 -0700 > From: Romy Ilano <romy(a)snowyla.com> > To: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> > Subject: [sudo-discuss] Event: Cartoonist Conspiracy Evening at > SudoRoom Thursday Nights > Message-ID: > <CAFqWQB-FDf+f32MP7beObSGmUTOBJ5DQRKb3QPPh= > 2vuwrSzeQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > https://www.facebook.com/pages/Cartoonist-Conspiracy-SF/84395061271?ref=aym… > > Hi, I used to be in a cool group called the Cartoonist Conspiracy SF. > > It dissolved, but it was a group of super Nerdy and talented cartoonists. > We did a lot of comic book jams at the Church Coffee shop as well as the > Cartoon museum and Rock Paper Scissors Collective. > > *I'd like to have an informal cartoonist jam that runs alongside the > Counter Culture Labs and Sudoroom thursday night.* > > I'm putting it in the calendar and if anyone objects I'll take it down. > > I'm keeping it super short, but the idea is that before I or any other > cartoonist leaves the space we have at least one cool cartoon related to > the: > > - hardware hacking > - mushroom / fungus growing > - artificial cheese creating > - 3d printing > - yoga dancing > - naked autonomous activist poetry reading > - graffiti techno bear woodshed making > - etc. > > that goes on at SudoRoom. > > Much love! I'm going to tell the Cartoonist Conspiracy this too. > > > ============================= > > Romy Ilano > romy(a)snowyla.com >

11 years, 2 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] [BAPS-Organizing] Re: [omni-building] [omni-discuss] Accessibility Liaison?

by niki

I actually *do* believe that this can be dealt with in a practical and reasonable way which is why I put this to the list. I admit exasperation, however, with the critique that the community just doesn't care enough / is not sufficiently interested in making the space accessible. The community is not some amorphous / boundless resource *nor* is it some perfect ideological object. It's real human beings in real space / time navigating all manner of confusing / complicated relationships. I guess I was hoping that someone would be interested in assisting with addressing these concerns practically even if it's only to identify what we can / cannot do rather than simply write it off as yet one more way in which we're failing every day to live up to our "values". I think it's reasonable to say that we haven't found someone who has the time / energy to take this on right now and that people who have concerns around these issues should perhaps wait to engage with us until we're in a more solid place. N On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Brad Borevitz <brad.borevitz(a)gmail.com> wrote: > can these issues be dealt with in a practical and reasonable way without > resorting to the exasperated cop out reference to ideological > perfectionism? and why all the antagonism? > > if there are limited resources (and there are) then real issues need to be > prioritized and dealt with in turn according to some sense of what is most > important and what effects the most people. can the case be made that > addressing chemical sensitivity is urgent and should be prioritized over > other concerns? > > chemical sensitivity is a controversial diagnosis without support from > science based medical organizations like AMA or WHO. i don’t know much > about it but from a quick wikipedia search it looks like there is some > evidence that it can be psychosomatic. which is not to say it isn’t real or > current science could be wrong, just that there doesn’t now seem to be any > consensus or compelling evidence. that might explain some people’s > dismissal. > > but if there are potentially dangerous chemicals (maybe occupational > health as safety regulations should be a guide here) being used around the > omni without adequate ventilation and without informing people of where and > when they might be exposed to these, that seems like an immediate issue. at > the very least those using such chemicals, should have an obligation to > notify others (signs and disclosure to omni general meeting) and a making a > plan to isolate, mitigate and provide necessary ventilation. > > and if perfume bothers people then those using it should be made aware and > act with some consideration of other people around them. it’s just like > being loud. in a crowded space that is shared without good ways to > partition and isolate activities, we should be aware of the way we effect > each other as we use the space. these distractions, though they may be at > the level of annoyance rather than emergency, have real effects on the > ability of the space to be effectively shared. take them seriously, but > don’t exaggerate their significance by making them emotionally laden > contests over control, authority, attention ... > > b > > > On Apr 21, 2015, at 10:52 AM, niki <niki.shelley(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Ok. I will write her back and tell her that because not every person who > enters the doors of the Omni is able to occupy a place of absolutely pure > ideological perfection, we will not be addressing these issues in any > meaningful way. > > > > N > > > > On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 10:31 PM, Ryan <yandoryn(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > It's not just one person or one situation. And it's not always in an > aggressive way. And it's not just an issue of not caring (although I have > experienced that). It's an issue of feasibility. > > > > I've heard snowball arguments. I know that Material Print Machine tries > their hardest to be chemically sensitive but cannot function without some > volatile chemicals that can cause problems. > > > > If we got some serious ventilation going on, maybe we'd be able to deal > with CCL and sudo. But the 3D printers could be an issue. > > > > And the few times I've tried to broach this subject, I have hit hard > walls. I've also had a lot of support. But I've also heard a lot of people > basically say "it'd be too hard to care about such a small minority." > > > > I just think that anyone who is going to be dealing with this at the > Omni needs to know that not everyone is on board and that they're going to > hear some really insensitive stuff. From people you might not expect. My > request to have the Omni ban simply spraying of perfume in the space left > me in tears about ready to leave the space because of reactions like this > from many members. > > > > I did have a specific issue with one member who I try not to interact > with now, who followed me out and proceeded to become aggressive and tell > me I can't survive in the real world, but that was handled for the most > part. That's not the issue, though. > > > > I don't know. My brain isn't really functioning well (brain fog yay) but > I think anyone dealing with accessibility at the Omni, especially things > people are less versed in than physical (which is bad enough to deal with) > should be well aware that while some people may be totally on board, there > are some people who are solidly against. > > > > On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 10:21 PM, Laura Turiano <scylla(a)riseup.net> > wrote: > > I would like to know who said that, Ryan, so that we can have a > conversation with them about their attitude. > > > > Laura > > > > > > On 4/19/15 8:09 PM, Ryan wrote: > >> The consistent reaction I've gotten from the community at large is "We > don't actually care about people with chemical sensitivities and would > actively block any attempts to make the space more accessible to those with > respiratory problems who are 'asking too much.'" > >> > >> So, it might be best to be honest with her, rather than pretend like > the Omni is actually going to actively work to be accessible. > >> > >> Sorry if this sounds pessimistic, but eh. > >> > >> On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 8:06 PM, niki <niki.shelley(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello friends, > >> > >> Someone came in today who was very concerned with our efforts to make > our space truly accessible - she was particularly concerned with building > improvements and the impact on those with chemical sensitivities. She was > also concerned with the sound system at today's event as there were some > issues w/it that made it difficult for people to hear. > >> > >> She asked us to not use any materials that will inhibit those with > chemical sensitivities from accessing the space and to create communication > around our accessibility and needs. > >> > >> She asked to see our plan for how we will do this. We don't have this > scoped out currently and I'm wondering if someone would be willing to take > on the task of researching this issue and making recommendations to the > building Working Group as well as drawing up a basic outline for providing > greater accessibility. > >> > >> Can someone volunteer for this? > >> > >> xo > >> > >> N > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> discuss mailing list > >> discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org > >> https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> building mailing list > >> > >> building(a)lists.omnicommons.org > >> https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/building > > > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "BayAreaPublicSchool-organizing" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to bayareapublicschool-organizing+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "BayAreaPublicSchool-organizing" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to bayareapublicschool-organizing+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. >

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