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Re: [sudo-discuss] Basement dwellers, your shit is being put out in the street 12noon.

by yar

On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> wrote: > All items have been removed from the space, and Sudo will be voting on a > temporary ban at tomorrow's meeting. New update. At last night's meeting Sudoroom consented on this statement: "We find Sally in bad standing as a member and with heavy hearts, we suspend her access rights for one month, because she consistently uses the common areas inappropriately and has been warned many times." Note this is not a "ban for reason of safety" as per our ban reciprocity, so we still have to figure out what it means for the rest of the Omni. In the meantime, since we aren't yet open to the public nobody is under any obligation to let her in the building.

10 years, 1 month

Re: [sudo-discuss] [omnilogistics] [Critical] Cannot pass new member Rise Above printing

by yar

FYI all, Gabriela came to last night's Sudoroom meeting, we had a long productive conversation, and afterwards Sudoroom consented on this statement: "Sudoroom will consent to Rise Above renting space at the omni for $1000/month for a 6 month trial lease term, once the location and any building modifications and permits are clarified and once the meaning of tenancy is clarified by the Omni's legal/governance working group. We don't object to them being a tenant in a general sense." If you recall, the exact proposal before the delegates last week was roughly in the same spirit. Some Sudoroom members simply believe that the details should be more clearly figured out before we all say for certain. We hope this gives everybody a clear path forward for now. Also worth noting: Gabriela mentioned last night that she has a new plan for space usage which is different from modifying/occupying the utility room. It involved renting one of the three small basement rooms and possibly expanding it, plus sharing a desk somewhere with natural sunlight. I assume she'll show you that tonight, but just a heads up.

10 years, 1 month

Re: [sudo-discuss] Revised Electrical Plan (rev 1.1)

by yar

On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Whitney Lawrence <whitneyel3(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Submitted for review. > > 3. I would like these plans to be reviewed this week to be fully prepared > for installation early next week. Whitney came and talked to me before yesterday's meeting and told me he'd like to start work tonight at 6pm, and expects the whole project to take several days with many Sudoers pitching in menial labor. I added this to the meeting notes, but it had still not been discussed when I biked home at 10pm in a sleepy stupor, and according to the posted notes, was not discussed afterwards either. Work cannot yet begin until the plans are 1) signed off by a certified electrician, and then 2) approved by the landlord. I have heard many mentions of hypothetical electricians but none has materialized. Cere has mentioned Dave Petroli, we'll see if he responds to our emails. If you have any other leads, now is the time. Please don't be shy about sending them this link to review ASAP and asking for an email "ok": https://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-discuss/2014-August/007369.html This slipped through the cracks because core organizers are overworked with many things and we really need more people to take ownership and leadership for crucial boring tasks. But anyway, there is a remote chance that we can cut through the red tape by tonight if we hustle. > 4. Last weekend, Hol and I went to Home Depot to get supplies for Phase 1. I > request reimbursement of $348.02 for materials. I have the receipt and will > present to whomever would like a copy. We already approved this expense, so I believe someone just needs to write a check now. I have an email copy of the receipt I can fwd. Who can do that? Thanks!

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Folks come by Omni Today Thursday 9AM to caravan to recycling center

by somebody＠riseup.net

Calling for Sudoroom and Omni folks! "Hi! We need folks to come by Omni tomorrow at 9am to caravan to the recycling center at 669 Gilman, Berkeley, CA to unload law books at the recycling center!!! There are 350 boxes of law books and really, really not enough hands - also the ruck is overburdened a bunch [see attached photo].! Plz make this your wake-up activity, We'll be meeting at 9am at the Omni, 4799 Shattuck. Free tours and good will to those who can come by! Bonus points for another renting another u-haul before noon tomorrow!! Love, Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com"

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Re: [sudo-discuss] wheelchair lift on craigslist $250

by Jake

Sorry hol, i didn't see the post about the width, i thought 30" would be enough. After looking over craigslist i don't see anything that would work! Oh well. A couple of years ago a friend of mine took out a wheelchair lift from his work van, i think it was pretty big but it was long gone. Thanks for doing the hard work to make this happen. -jake On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 1:33 PM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote: jake, i originally questioned the rationale of spending the $2500 on an inspection alone if you recall. the purpose of that was to get clear guidance on what will be required and to have full confidence that we would be immune from ADA lawsuits in the future, in addition to not having to waste our time and money constructing noncompliant features. per the lease, all construction that we'll be reimbursed for 50% by john has to be signed off by a licensed contractor. so if we pay 1/2 of $8000 and have a lift that's legit and the contractor handles all the permitting, etc, then that seems like a decent deal. please feel free to shop around since I only got the one quote last week, the day after the inspection. >without even having looked at the list of requirements we are supposed to meet Bathrooms: http://www.bobrick.com/Documents/PlanningGuide.pdf Lifts: http://continuingeducation.construction.com/article.php?L=194&C=673&P=3 * 4.2.4.2Relationship of Maneuvering Clearance to Wheelchair Spaces. One full unobstructed side of the clear floor or ground space for a wheelchair shall adjoin or overlap an accessible route or adjoin another wheelchair clear floor space. If a clear floor space is located in an alcove or otherwise confined on all or part of three sides, additional maneuvering clearances shall be provided as shown in Fig. 4(d) and (e) (see diagram). (Comment: Wheelchair lifts are typically considered to be alcoves. According to Fig. 4 (e), the minimum inside platform dimensions for a wheelchair lift with its gates on opposite ends (so that the user has a straight approach to the lift) are 36 inches x 48 inches.) all the work we're planning at this stage is work that i identified prior to that inspection simply by reading the codes. i also proposed buying a used wheelchair lift on CL that would suit our application, and volunteered to install it myself this week if someone else could fetch it. if you prefer to hack out all the details like used car batteries, ballscrews, bearings, power electronics, mechanical gate actuators, safety nut, controls, etc in a way that will function reliably for the next few years without maintenance, and you're willing to research and perform all that work on the relevant timeline, that would certainly help advance things along that front. I have not researched any electrical characteristics other than total current demand from the mains so you'd have to take the lead on those details. For my part, I have only had a limited amount of bandwidth to work on this and am doing the best I can to meet our commitment to accessibility. If anyone feels I am taking the wrong approach and wants to do things differently I would be ecstatic to step back and focus on other things. cheers, hol On 2014-09-03 12:41, Jake wrote: i look forward to finding out the regulations on size, load, battery capacity, etc. because those are numbers we can work with. If the van lift on craigs list (and there are many of them) fits those requirements, i don't see the problem. As for battery capacity, a single car battery can surely serve to evacuate a meeting of 30 electric-wheelchair using visitors in a power failure with no p roblem, especially since it would only need power to lift the empty platform up to receive the next chair. Lowering doesn't take any power at all (except for a tiny solenoid which releases pressure when you press the DOWN button), and if not, batteries are really easy to buy more of! It sounds like you're advocating against trying to do it ourselves without even having looked at the list of requirements we are supposed to meet. Even if it weren't for the thousands of dollars difference, I still think we should at least consider "hacking something together ourselves" -jake On Wed, 3 Sep 2014, Patrik D'haeseleer wrote: I definitely think we need to consult with the guy who came to do the ADA inspection before we decide on a creative solution like converting a van lift. It's entirely likely that wheelchair lifts for vans follow different regulations with respect to size, load, battery capacity, etc. Considering that this is one of the few expenses where our landlord will be pitching in 50%, I'd still say we should go with the professional $8K option and get it done right, rather than hacking something together ourselves. Patrik On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/for/4648013065.html yes it's for a van. but if the dimensions are acceptible then it's a solution. i talked with a lift shop today and I was told that getting a lift certified by the state is a nighmare lasting months and costing millions of dollars, involving load-testing and battery backup etc. the "cheap" way of installing a "residential" lift like the ones mentioned before would "only" cost about $2500 if we get the one I linked above, we power it with batteries anyway (it's made for a van) and that way, in a power failure it will still work. That's one of the requirements we need to have anyway. So I vote we go that direction. Of course there is the accessibility professional we contacted before, and we can ask them about this plan, but assuming the hardware meets our needs for dimensions and load-bearing I think it's a good solution. I am willing to help with the adaptation and wiring, etc. -jake _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss

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my friend left his work lamp in basement

by johanna faust

he was helping us go through all -- and i mean ALL - of the books that were slated to be taken out behind the proverbial chemical shed today. it is one of those light bulbs in a cage that plugs in stylee work lamps. was left plugged in over where all the boxes of books were. please do not hack or eat or misplace it! i or st will be back by to get it --- or he will, if tis kewl -- *Be seeing you.*

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wheelchair lift on craigslist $250

by Jake

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/for/4648013065.html yes it's for a van. but if the dimensions are acceptible then it's a solution. i talked with a lift shop today and I was told that getting a lift certified by the state is a nighmare lasting months and costing millions of dollars, involving load-testing and battery backup etc. the "cheap" way of installing a "residential" lift like the ones mentioned before would "only" cost about $2500 if we get the one I linked above, we power it with batteries anyway (it's made for a van) and that way, in a power failure it will still work. That's one of the requirements we need to have anyway. So I vote we go that direction. Of course there is the accessibility professional we contacted before, and we can ask them about this plan, but assuming the hardware meets our needs for dimensions and load-bearing I think it's a good solution. I am willing to help with the adaptation and wiring, etc. -jake

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Basement dwellers, your shit is being put out in the street 12noon.

by David Keenan

Hi, Lots of furniture, stereo, clothes, glassess, bookshelves, are going to be put into the street at noon. If these are your personal belongings, please come get them by then. This is not the first time that someone tried to basically move into the space in the last two months, and I feel I have no choice but to now be a total fucking hardass. Whomever it is, I hope you can understand that there is a zero tolerance policy to literally turning common space into someone's personal bedroom/living room, etc. I realize you may have just been trying to make a chill hangout space or something. However there were just far too many personal belongings in there. I have a pretty good idea who it is and they have been warned against this multiple times so its really sad. The offices in the basement are for having a meetup, class, working session or possibly for renting out. They are not someone's home. NO ONE CAN LIVE HERE. No one can store lots and lots of personal effects here. The blue couch and the sudo coffee table had also been moved from the common area into the adjoining room. They have been moved back. Now my back hurts. David

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by Shireen Javandel

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Very important Omni proposals for wheelchair accessibility!

by yar

It would be very good if we could consent on this at Thursday's Omni meeting, so that work can begin. Please discuss among all groups ASAP. Thanks!! === front door === * Proposal: replace the NE front door with an ADA-accessible door ** Install a single 36" door with adjacent smaller side door or barrier. ** Est cost: $500 === chairlift to ballroom === * Proposal: replace the western staircase from La Commune to the ballroom with a chairlift. This would involve knocking down part of the wall. This is what our CASp inspector recommended and is required for public access to the ballroom. ** Option 1: ~$8000 for a fully-certified, professionally installed new commercial lift including all permitting. ** Option 2: Failing the passage of option 1, that we authorize up to $3500 for a used chairlift. Note most used chairlifts are from houses and certified only for residential, not commercial, and therefore a used lift may not be technically to ADA code. A UPS (uninterruptable power supply) may need to be acquired to power a residential lift in the case of a power outage (as per ADA code for commercial spaces.) === bathroom === * Proposal: make cafe bathroom accessible, single-stall, single-occupancy. ** requires knocking down inner stalls, installing grab bars, moving the sink, fitting a wider door ** Est cost: $500-$1000. Note: The landlords will be obligated to pay for 50% of these costs in the form of a rent credit.

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