5 Sep
2014
5 Sep
'14
2:37 p.m.
Hi Whit,
Thanks for the quick/thoughtful reply.
Ya the middle-road plan that you suggested sounds similar to what I was
thinking but I am not clear if your plan adds in sufficient wire and
conduit width to/from the main before getting to the sub panel?
I think a cheap (but extensible) solution would be just to run additional
conduit and/or use existing conduit to branch off the main panel and then,
as time/money permits, use that existing conduit to add a sub-panel in the
future. It may be that there is existing conduit that it wide enough for a
sub-panel between the main and sudo but more wire would have to be fished
through. I'm not sure if it's ok to share conduit for two sub panels paths
or not but… Regardless, I suspect Dave would probably recommend using
conduit and cable that is large diameter enough to fit another sub panel in
the future. Would be a better use of our time/energy anyhow to factor that
in.
-Cere
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Whitney Lawrence <whitneyel3(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Howdy,
Let me begin with thanking you for looking at the proposal. Your
interpretation of the plans is correct.{ Main -> above stage panel ->
balcony panel } is how the proposed plan is drawn. There is enough room in
the balcony panel (which is the one located in the small room that shares a
wall with the server loft of sudoroom) to accomplish phase 1 of the
proposal. The proposal is based on instruction received to minimize cost.
Ideally, there would be a main panel breaker that supplies a sub panel for
all of sudo's needs (phase 1 and phase 2). I can't accurately guess at a
cost number for this type of installation. Figure a 100amp sub with
hundreds of feet of 2awg plus breaker box plus breakers plus conduit plus
hardware. All depending on if the main service can even handle the
additional power demands (hiring an electrician to run the calcs). Ballpark
$3-5k maybe- but its really a shot in the dark?
My experience with this type of thing is there is always a better way to
do it, if you go the money.
A middle road is to plan on having the future sudo-sub panel placed near
the balcony panel. Build in an extra 5ft or so of wire for the future
transition into the new sudo-sub panel. All that would be needed is to
remove the breakers from the old box re-run wire from J-box 1 to the new
sudo-sub, as well as re-routing the 240V lines from the above stage panel
to the sudo-sub (and of course preform all the main -> suod-sub work).
as far as existing vs proposed. only the sub panels mentioned above exist
currently- I'll make a note to call out the existing stuff in the drawings.
Thanks,
Whit
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Cere Mona Davis <ceremona(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
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Hi everyone. It's the first time I have
looked at these plans and I have
some questions and thoughts. Dave said he won't be able to respond to this
email until a couple of days as he is out in the boonies somewhere. So I
am writing in to expedite some issues that I think he will likely bring up
in the days ahead.
Whit, thanks for drawing up these plans! For someone who is not
intimately familiar with our electrical layout the plans might need a more
clear description of existing electrical vs. proposed new electrical,
however.
In multiple conversations with Dave (and one on-site visit) he has
mentioned repeatedly that we will want to shoot for putting in another sub
panel for the sudoroom off of the main panel as the end-game; rather than
daisy-chaining off of an existing panel (the balcony) as what seems to be
proposed here. If we can't immediately put in a sub panel into the room,
due to cost, we should at-least be planning for conduit and wiring paths,
etc that allows for a sudoroom sub-panel in the future.
Thoughts?
-Cere
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:23 AM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
Thanks Yar! Whit can you liaise w/ Dave RE how
much of the work is
going to be done under the first permit?
Cheers,
Hol
On 2014-09-04 23:16, yar wrote:
Hi all, Dave Pedroli is a certified electrician who's offered to
review our plans to give them an okay. I'm copying him and the people
who've been most involved with electrical work.
Dave, the latest plans are attached, and also available online[1
<https://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-discuss/2014-August/007369.html>].
Could you please look them over and write us a few formal-sounding
sentences that boil down to "hello I am a real electrician and I say
these plans are solid"? This will help us make the landlord happy so
he will let us do them. Thank you!!
[1] https://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-discuss/2014-August/007369.html
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