5 Sep
2014
5 Sep
'14
3:15 p.m.
Hi Tracy,
We may potentially be able to lend you some equipment, if it's just for a
temporary exhibit. I've cc'd Matt Harbowy, who currently owns much of our
equipment.
Feel free to stop by CCL on Tuesday evening, which is when we have our
working meetings.
Patrik
PS: We were just discussing the other day whether we should restart doing
some experiments with ferrofluid!
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Tracy Jacobs <kinetical(a)comcast.net> wrote:
Hi Patrick and sudoers,
I’m wondering if anyone knows where to get cheapish used lab equipment and
furniture like would be used in a bio lab? Or some that could be borrowed
for a weekend? I may need to get hold of these things for an art
installation. I’d much appreciate any leads you could throw my way. I’d
also love to run some ideas by some biologists and get your thoughts, so I
plan to stop by CCL sometime really soon.
Tracy
On Sep 5, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I would also like to bring up the topic of upgrading the electrical on the
CCL side of the hall as well. It sounds like we may need to do all the
electrical permitting (and/or inspection?) at the same time anyway. So if
someone can give us a hand getting our upgrade plans in order, that would
be greatly appreciated! At the very minimum we need to make sure that the
Sudo upgrades don't get delayed by the slower pace of upgrades on the CCL
side.
I'd love to help out with some of the hands-on work in Sudo as well, if
you can use some more relatively unskilled labor - we'll need to learn
those skills for the CCL side anyway.
CCL hasn't been pushing ahead on electrical upgrades as quickly as Sudo,
since we have other construction work that needs to be done before we can
start plugging in a lot of our equipment. We still need to do a thorough
inventory of how much power we need where, but at a minimum, we will have 3
or 4 fridge/freezers running continuously, one oven (autoclave), plus two
or more microwaves and lots of other pieces of equipment that only need
intermittent power. We would like to install outlets all along the walls,
and a couple additional outlets (and maybe light fixtures) in the storage
rooms. And like in Sudo, the suggestion of dropping power cords down from
one of the rafters has come up as well...
The CCL side of the hall is on a couple of different circuits from Sudo.
The black wall with all the fridges goes to a single 15A breaker in the
subpanel on our side of the stage, which is obviously not enough for all of
the equipment that is currently located along that wall. The two storage
rooms seem to be fed directly from the main panel in the utility room. And
the lights in the storage rooms may or may not go to an upstairs panel that
we don't currently have access to - needs some more investigation (does
anyone have a circuit breaker tracer we could borrow?)
Anyone willing to give us a hand?
Thanks!
Patrik
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Whitney Lawrence <whitneyel3(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Howdy,
Let me begin with thanking you for looking at the proposal. Your
interpretation of the plans is correct.{ Main -> above stage panel ->
balcony panel } is how the proposed plan is drawn. There is enough room in
the balcony panel (which is the one located in the small room that shares a
wall with the server loft of sudoroom) to accomplish phase 1 of the
proposal. The proposal is based on instruction received to minimize cost.
Ideally, there would be a main panel breaker that supplies a sub panel for
all of sudo's needs (phase 1 and phase 2). I can't accurately guess at a
cost number for this type of installation. Figure a 100amp sub with
hundreds of feet of 2awg plus breaker box plus breakers plus conduit plus
hardware. All depending on if the main service can even handle the
additional power demands (hiring an electrician to run the calcs). Ballpark
$3-5k maybe- but its really a shot in the dark?
My experience with this type of thing is there is always a better way to
do it, if you go the money.
A middle road is to plan on having the future sudo-sub panel placed near
the balcony panel. Build in an extra 5ft or so of wire for the future
transition into the new sudo-sub panel. All that would be needed is to
remove the breakers from the old box re-run wire from J-box 1 to the new
sudo-sub, as well as re-routing the 240V lines from the above stage panel
to the sudo-sub (and of course preform all the main -> suod-sub work).
as far as existing vs proposed. only the sub panels mentioned above exist
currently- I'll make a note to call out the existing stuff in the drawings.
Thanks,
Whit
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Cere Mona Davis <ceremona(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
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Hi everyone. It's the first time I have
looked at these plans and I
have some questions and thoughts. Dave said he won't be able to respond to
this email until a couple of days as he is out in the boonies somewhere.
So I am writing in to expedite some issues that I think he will likely
bring up in the days ahead.
Whit, thanks for drawing up these plans! For someone who is not
intimately familiar with our electrical layout the plans might need a more
clear description of existing electrical vs. proposed new electrical,
however.
In multiple conversations with Dave (and one on-site visit) he has
mentioned repeatedly that we will want to shoot for putting in another sub
panel for the sudoroom off of the main panel as the end-game; rather than
daisy-chaining off of an existing panel (the balcony) as what seems to be
proposed here. If we can't immediately put in a sub panel into the room,
due to cost, we should at-least be planning for conduit and wiring paths,
etc that allows for a sudoroom sub-panel in the future.
Thoughts?
-Cere
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:23 AM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
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Thanks Yar! Whit can you liaise w/ Dave RE how
much of the work is
going to be done under the first permit?
Cheers,
Hol
On 2014-09-04 23:16, yar wrote:
Hi all, Dave Pedroli is a certified electrician who's offered to
review our plans to give them an okay. I'm copying him and the people
who've been most involved with electrical work.
Dave, the latest plans are attached, and also available online[1
<https://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-discuss/2014-August/007369.html>].
Could you please look them over and write us a few formal-sounding
sentences that boil down to "hello I am a real electrician and I say
these plans are solid"? This will help us make the landlord happy so
he will let us do them. Thank you!!
[1] https://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-discuss/2014-August/007369.html
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