sudo-discuss November 2013

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Re: [sudo-discuss] sudo crowd

by Vicky Knox

Thank you, Eddan! :D Will you let us all know when you get those updates up?

10 years, 6 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] Sudo Room Wiki/Wordpress beautification hack day

by Vicky Knox

Updates to the wiki! I began work on the wiki by categorizing pages so that they can eventually be clustered into single page portals and/or menus (similar to the Quick Links the main Mesh group page has <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh>). I started by going through All Pages < https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Special%3AAllPages> one-by-one, and categorized articles as Projects < https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Category:Projects>, subcategory Food Hacking < https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Category:Food_Hacking>, Events < https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Category:Events> and Stub (for pages that may be abandoned or need expansion) <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Category:Stub>. I also did a little bit of spam rollbacking and prettied up the language in a few articles. Still on my list are to complete categorization of every page in All Pages, research a new template for the front page of the wiki and build out the Funding page Jenny started <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Funding>. Please let me know if you'd like to meet up and work on this with me!

10 years, 6 months

Sudo Room's Values, Participation, etc

by Matthew Senate

Hey all, I've been thinking about some things and wanted to share a few thoughts: Reflecting on this: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association#Values I'm of the disposition that sudo room as a collective values "open, public discourses over closed proprietary processes" and I believe in good faith that this is held and executed by sudoers generally. I appreciate when folks want to offer positive acknowledgements, suggestions for improvement, and support to fellow community members. I also think that sudoers generally practice "do-ocracy over bureaucracy" with an added element of "access and transparency over exclusivity" in order to help that do-ocracy remain accountable and enable us to "solve real problems over hypotheticals, while respecting visions of the future." Ultimately, it is my perspective that sudo room's various participants are interested in acting based on "community and collaboration over isolation and competition" not the other way around. I do not think things are perfect, but I think by and large folks do a good job of these things and everyone is interested in improving. >From this point of view, I would like to express my excitement and encouragement for folks to reach out in various ways to add value to sudo room, and also to share and communicate at appropriate times. I firmly believe that the work executed on a recent topic, a particular grant application <http://soex.org/alternativeexposure/>, was appropriate, and that while a message indeed would have been fine or even nice, ultimately, it was brought to everyone's attention at the right time--just before it was due seeking help and when it was confirmed that sudo would actually be a recipient of funds. I barely even remember working on it--I believe I gave some feedback or something, or perhaps was distracted by something else, I don't know. To be honest, applying to grants can feel like a game of chance, so I didn't put emotional stock into it. In other words, I personally don't see any problem with folks reaching out on their own in order to add value to sudo room, especially when information is brought to light when the value-add is actually feasible or even confirmed. For instance, I think it's a great efficiency that Marc found a craigslist post for a free, modern, color printer, reached out to the poster, confirmed the pickup, picked it up, dropped it off at noisebridge, returned with a car to retrieve it from noisebridge, hauled it upstairs, cleaned the walkway area adjacent to the elevator, ran an ethernet cable, installed shelves, and plugged in the printer itself. It is unnecessary for him to have said anything about this for it to be a value-consistent value-add to sudo room. It could be nice, even advantageous to post it--maybe someone could have picked it up from noisebridge on their way home?--but in the end, it doesn't matter, and now this great resources is available for us to share and use. This to me is do-ocracy, and the minutia of timing the communication is less important if there is nothing to lose. Applying to grants gives us absolutely nothing to lose. I say: reach out. // Matt

10 years, 6 months

math literacy meetup wednesday night

by Mike Schachter

Hey everyone, a few people are going to meet up on Wednesday around 6pm at sudoroom to talk about math literacy stuff! Please stop over if you're interested, or another time in the future if you're not available. mike

10 years, 6 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] [sudo-announce] forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings

by Art McGee

Greetings, I'm curious, but would not this post have been more appropriate for the sudo-discuss list? I assume you may not be aware of it. As for your specific point about the American Civil War being about states' rights, that just makes me say hummmm... :-\ I'm going to do the Fanonian thing and not shout, since I'm too tired for that anymore, but I will just add that in the opinion of a lot of historians, some of them Anarchists, the "battle for power" between U.S. states and the Federal government is simply that, a battle for power, but it doesn't tell you anything about why the states want that power. It doesn't tell you anything about the motivating factors behind such a long-standing struggle, which, if you're unfamiliar with U.S. history, could lead you to the erroneous conclusion that it's a neutral "freedom" thing. It's not. I think you already know this, but your phrasing triggered my White Supremacy detector, so I had to respond. :-) Oh, and since I've now delurked and am posting on this discuss list, I'll just say that I live in Oakland but haven't as yet made it around to the sudo room in person (I'm hoping to change that in the upcoming year). Art McGee On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:50 AM, aestetix <aestetix(a)aestetix.com> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I've been lurking for a while, but this caught my attention. > Especially given that I recently watched the musical 1776. > > IMHO, we're at a turning point in history. I spent part of this > morning watching the testimony on healthcare.gov, and seeing the > interplay of lawyers and technologists. We seem to be sandwiched > between two paradigms: the NSA/Omnicorp merger from Prism and other > Snowden leaks, and totally unrealistic valuations of companies like > Snapchat, which apparently just turned down a $3 billion cash > acquisition offer from Facebook. That spells out a damned if you do, > damned if you don't scenario. > > The one common theme we've seen through the history of the US is the > battle for power between State and Federal governments. This is what > the Civil War was *really* about, why laws like the Civil Rights Act > of 1965 are so important, and why the most recent government shut-down > happened. And inherent to this power battle, for which there is no > "better" side, is the will of the people. How do we overcome the > tragedy of the commons enough to build a system that generally, kind > of sort of works? > > It's hard to practice what one preaches if there's no cost. For > example, it's easy to use Google/etc, until the government subpoenas > your email and search history and uses that as evidence (hidden via > State Secrets) to throw you in jail. I speak on this with several > friends who are either in jail or dead because of bad laws, and many > more who have been harassed, detained, in most cases for doing nothing > more than dissenting. > > This is why I agree strongly with Eddan about the notion of > neutrality. I haven't kept up with sudo room as much lately, partly > because I don't have the time/energy to engage in some of the > transitions that were going on. I'm beginning to get to a point where > I can re-engage with people working on projects tackling these kinds > of issues. I suppose we shall see what happens. > > Back into the woodwork, > aestetix > > - --- > > I've often thought of Sudo Room a little bit like the District of > Columbia. and Rachel's subject for her email reminded me of that. > > It is often forgotten that there was a first constitution of the > United States after Independence before the one that people call the > Constitution. It was called the Confederacy of States. The nation's > capital was in Philadelphia and through a series of events ended up > moving to a newly formed neutral district - that we all know now as DC. > > It wasn't just a series of events, but a structural flaw in the > Confederacy that doomed itself. As James Madison wrote in Federalist > 43, "We have seen the inconvenience of this omission, and the > assumption of power into which Congress have been led by it. With > great propriety, therefore, has the new system supplied the defect. > The general precaution, that no new States shall be formed, without > the concurrence of the federal authority, and that of the States > concerned, is consonant to the principles which ought to govern such > transactions." > > As population grew and the country was further colonized by the > European settlers, the creation of new states turned into a disuniting > disaster. Different coalitions of states banded together to promote > their collective interest at the expense of others. Those states > excluded formed their own alliances and there were many cries of > treason thrown around back and forth. Each cluster thought of > themselves as the "us" and the others as the "them" until the "them" > became the "us" and the "us" was "them". And so on. > > So while New York, New Jersey, Virginia, Maryland - all wanted the new > federal seat of power in their states, a deal was struck to create a > district that didn't belong to any particular state. They all wanted > to have the center of the nation's power in their territories. And > this is how we got in Article 1, Section 8 of the US Constitution, the > provision saying: > > "To exercise exclusive legislation, in all cases whatsoever, over such > district (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of > particular States and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of > the government of the United States; and to exercise like authority > over all places purchased by the consent of the legislatures of the > States in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, > magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings." > > I'm not sure we need forts and magazines and arsenals and such, but I > still think we need a neutral center so that no particular cluster > confuses themselves as being what constitutes Sudo Room. Only when the > country adopted a political structure that transformed the "us" and > "them" into we - did the agreement amongst them create stability and > mutual respect that made them united states. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.19 (Darwin) > Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSg9gZAAoJEOrRfDwkjbpTzNYIALdkLYpUOINBMdaoTgyfv5+d > 4mL38CWysMiceiA8AqMXUStiZOsp4aEiOgsYnSOrookSdnQbVbxPD10keH+0P4Jm > 7es9ibfvk5PT/Bj5IThB9pSsUpS3coeVVmOHScYnPVQzPGihIMpcMGcLaNpviZBE > BE9IOpK5EcBpgBh25mVqIFp6nJisuOq1mTgwAjHoZUOb+VxKbSLoCPaEVcHkpgVL > cvdMJSCSrk1rZVkTA0oWfMW57NRQY47z7e+tXm5xvkJXvJA2mYbcOgaQssnRqp0/ > wspCWOdP4ior8xvaQE7KrUQvj3JxbLOY8I92UhXC3Sj29BXw7xy3i08hoLUg6kY= > =42g2 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > sudo-announce mailing list > sudo-announce(a)lists.sudoroom.org > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-announce >

10 years, 6 months

Waste Management billz

by David Keenan

https://www.wm.com/myaccount/ account | amt 00012-86938-43003 | Amount: $224.28 00012-87014-63003 | Amount: $71.80 Total paid: $296.08 Confirmation Number: 69784810329 As I mentioned to some of you, I've paid for combined garbage and recycling for SUDO and BAPS from 9/15 til now. Basically I consider this my membership dues to each respective group for the past three months - essentially, ~$50/group/mo since Sept. or however that works out. I thought just paying this for SUDO and BAPS might kill two birds with one stone dues-wise, but going forward it's obviously way less confusing to have SUDO to take over the wm.com account and bill BAPS, and I'll just pay dues to each group like everyone else... Re: the wm.com login, I sent Matt this info a while ago, but at this point I'd like to change out the bound email address from my personal email to a generic sudoroom email (or at any rate, some other email) that sudo and baps can both check. Can someone volunteer a sudoroom or other email SUDO and BAPS can share for this purpose? Thanks, David

10 years, 6 months

Proposal: Juice Party Instead of Board Approvals Tomorrow

by Max Klein

Hello sudolings, Well, I don't know about you but I've been really anxious and tense lately about approving the Board. I've been hearing some closed door discussions about who should or shouldn't be on Board and it's been stressing me out. BUT there's no rush *we still have 82 days* to elect our Board. It's not the sudo spirit to make decisions under stress and possibly in a way that will split the community. I have faith that with more time this will ease. The huge irony is that everything I hear behind closed doors is the same. If you could see this from "God-mode", there wouldn't be any conflicts. And we have the luxury of being sudo-humans that don't get mired and stuck in that old-model politicking. We are deeply-introspective, ego-dissolvers, and cosmic-harmonizers. So here's the proposal: every body bring* 3 pieces of fruit* tomorrow to the meeting and somebody bring a juicer. And when it comes time to approve the board instead we will table it for a week and will just juice the juice 20 minutes. What do you think? Juicily yours and without confusion Notconfusing aka Max Klein +17074787023

10 years, 6 months

[consensus] Nominations for Board of Directors

by Jenny Ryan

Or, alternatively as suggested last night, Board of Those With Little Power and Great Responsibility (or something to that effect :) The following is a list of those who've accepted nomination to the board, and those who've been nominated but have yet to accept or decline: - Accepted: Max, Jenny, Naomi, Anca, Hol, Vicky [tentative], Marc, Matt, Luciano, Troy - Nominated: Rhodey, Marina, Liberty [tentative accept], JC, Len, Romy, Ryan B, Julio, Vian, Shake, Mitch, Brendan, Morten, Faust Please reply to this thread publicly or privately if you've been nominated but have yet to accept or decline. *At next week's meeting, we will go through and consent on each nominee. Those participating via the mailing list have one week to block any of the current nominations.* What's required of a board member? - the risks, not many risks if you are not paid - the only thing we have to worry about is if sudo room doesn't pay taxes then the treasurer will be liable for taxes - also board has responsibility to send in a document once a year to sacramento - not liable if sudo room goes into debt (except treasurer) <3 Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

10 years, 6 months

THIS THURS: Beehive Collective presents their new mural "Mesoamerica Resiste!"

by Jake

learn about the ongoing plan to "develop" latin america for the benefit of the wealthy at the expense of the people and the environment: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:31:31 -0800 From: Sakura Saunders <sakura.saunders(a)gmail.com> Subject: THIS THURS: Beehive Collective presents their new mural "Mesoamerica Resiste!" WHAT: "Mesoamérica Resiste!" graphic story-telling about resistance to neo-colonialism and mega-projects in Mexico and Central America WHEN: Thurs, Nov. 14 6:30pm WHERE: 2135 Broadway, downtown Oakland WHO: Beehive Design Collective: beehivecollective.org MESOAMÉRICA RESISTE is the long awaited final instalment in the Beehive’s graphic trilogy about globalization in the Americas! This collaboratively produced educational illustration was created through an intensive process of grassroots research that started in 2004, when an initial team from the US, Canada, and Mexico traveled together from Mexico to Panama to meet with communities organizing against the mega-infrastructure projects of a regional integration plan then known as Plan Puebla Panama. 9 years in the making, the Mesoamérica Resiste graphic reflects the Beehive’s efforts to document and share diverse stories of communities defending their sovereignty and building alternatives to top-down development plans - especially organizing led by Indigenous peoples, who have fought back against colonialism and genocide for centuries. The Beehive Design Collective is a wildly-motivated, all volunteer, activist-art collective dedicated to “cross-pollinating the grassroots” by creating collaborative, anti-copyright images for use as educational and organizing tools. We work anonymously as word-to-image translators of complex global stories, gathered and shared through first hand conversations with affected communities.

10 years, 6 months

SEE YOU SOON- SERGIO

by Sergio Racanati

Dear all sudo room, I thank you warmly for the availability given in my comparisons, for their kindness and for taking grnade hospitality and a great sense of community. I spent the beautiful day by sudo room. We expect in Italy. My email is: UTOPIARACANATI(a)GMAIL.COM SKYPE: UTOPIA.RACANATI CELL. (EUROPEAN) 0039 3405476497 FACEBOOK: SERGIO Racanati (The icond ADI is Facebbok A SCULPTURE MADE OF MANY COLORED WITH A FOUNTAIN LED). SEE YOU SOON WITH LOVE Sergio.

10 years, 6 months

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