OMFG,
Birds are in Sudo... 2 little ones, and they are trying to escape through
the skylight.
Can anyone help me get these birds out????
I'm trying to work, and can't really deal with this right now.
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Cheers,
Rusty Lindgren
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From: Laurie Cooperman Rosen <Lscoop(a)comcast.net>
Date: Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 1:53 PM
Subject: 4/2013 Statement, 2141 Broadway
To: exchequer(a)sudoroom.org
Cc: eddan(a)eddan.com, mattsenate(a)gmail.com
Hi All-
Here's the 4/2013 Statement for The Sudo Room. Utilities were the lowest
I've ever seen them this month. Congrats!
Thank you!
Laurie & George
Hi sudoers!
= wifi door access =
Yardena recently fixed one of the issues with the door access (ram usage),
and I just fixed the issue related to the wifi door access sometimes failing.
If the web page doesn't come up automatically when you connect to the
sudodoor access point, then go to your web browser and try to load any
HTTP web site. If you try to load an HTTPS website, then it won't
work.
= label printer =
The label printer has been re-loaded with new paper (thanks to
tunabananas for buying!) and the software has been configured to
hopefully be more stable and automatically start if the computer is
rebooted.
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Marc Juul
didn't get much of a rise out of sudo-doscuss...
steve i have a 2-axis compass chip that is earmarked for rover use. excellent point about the cloudy day problem - i gave derek my paired arduino/processing utility for passing servo instructions from PC to microcontroller and my understanding is that he is going to port the PC side to python using the GPIO pins of a raspberry pi for serial connection with arduino to do the low-level actuation since it runs at 5V like servos and some ICs, with the end goal of pointing a webcam. I will take a look at your code when i get back to town and try to find a schematic for driving those HVAC servos. we can fabricate whatever mount we need, but for starters it looks like we could get away with some 1/2" or 5/8" square tube through the servo, with holes drilled for attaching plywood to which we could duct tape some small panels (i have 2 5-watt car charging panels for testing purposes). any interest in sensing the battery voltage and having the computer enter sleep mode during the night? Not sure how to do that on the rpi but there's some documentation for the arduino. The whole rpi could be turned off and on with a single power transistor, as could individual transmitters
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From: steveberl(a)gmail.com
Date: Mar 31, 2013 09:29:23 AM
Subject: Re: robotics: 2-axis pointing
To: hol(a)gaskill.com
Cc: patrikd(a)gmail.com, sudo-doscuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org
On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Steve Berl steveberl(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I've already got the "calculating the daytime paths" part. I have python code using pyephem that given a latitude, longitude, and time, gives back the altitude and azimuth of the sun. For a fixed platform, that you can align once, that should be all you need. For a portable or moving, rotating platform, you need a way to know the orientation of the platform, which might be a magentometer, or even better, a 9DOF IMU like  https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11486
Dithering around the sun would probably be OK for solar panels, but on cloudy days, it might spend a lot of time hunting for a peak that doesn't exist. Â For radio astronomy, it would add noise to the system which you would need to figure out how to filter out somehow.
-steve
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 9:13 PM, hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
+1 on using a geared DC motor with encoder. Â we will basically wind up with a custom servo. Â i have some IR sensors that i got with the intention of making a photo interrupt type encoder - just need to print some dartboard-esqe patterns on transparency sheet and center it on the shaft or a coupler. Â steve i am very interested in building a sun-tracking mount for solar panels and those servos we have at sudo room would work for that application...i think there are also a few boxes that have geared stepper motors too, from the same batch of parts which i think was an overflow from AMT. Â two main options fro pointing as i see it are calculating the daytime paths geometrically, or using closed loop control to dither the panels around the sun like the thermopile on a sidewinder missile. Â also would be interested in one where the yaw axis of the panels is actuated by virtue of being mounted on a rover chassis (roomba???) with 2-axis magnetometer as feedback on pointing.
Mar 29, 2013 04:44:09 PM, patrikd(a)gmail.com wrote:
If you want something precise and slow, you probably want to go with a
>high gear ratio and a stepper motor. The load on this system should be
>fairly uniform (unless you accidentally start yanking on it, of
>course), so if it's well designed you shouldn't see too much trouble
>with steps getting skipped. You could always zero out the positioning
>using endstops.
>
>A good alternative would be to use a DC motor with an optical encoder.
>If you use a worm gear with a 360:1 gear reduction, and you attach a
>black/white crosshatch on the fast moving worm, you can measure the
>position of the slow moving worm wheel to within 1/4 of a degree,
>which is plenty for your purpose.
>
>Patrik
>
>On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Steve Berl steveberl(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> Just to clarify MY requirements a bit, the DirecTV radio telescope
>> (http://www.gb.nrao.edu/epo/ambassadors/ibtmanualshort.pdf) has a beamwidth
>> of about 3-5 degrees, so getting to within 1 degree would be great. I have
>> thought that the pan/tilt mounts used for larger traffic and surveillance
>> cameras would be perfect for this.
>> It also doesn't need to be fast. The first application is tracking the sun.
>> It needs to move at about 15 degrees/hour during the day. Overnight it has
>> to be able to swing back from the sunset position to the sunrise position,
>> but it's got all night to get there. Of course later on, or at night, we
>> might want to look at other things, and move from one celestial object to
>> another much more quickly.
>>
>> Optical telescopes (and big radio telescopes) generally have much smaller
>> beamwidths/field of view, so pointing accuracy and smooth motion (to track
>> the apparent move across the sky for long exposure photography,etc) are
>> critical. For more info on telescope drive mechanisms check out
>> http://www.dfmengineering.com/news_telescope_gearing.html. Theres a lot of
>> good info there about precise pointing control of big heavy things. These
>> are the guys who made the control system for Nellie, the 36" reflector
>> telescope at Chabot Space & Science Center (www.chabotspace.org).
>>
>> -steve
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Scott Garrison
>> scottrobertgarrison(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd have to disagree on this one. Â Servos have an encoder that allows the
>>> motor to know it's exact position. Â Stepper motors will miss steps and won't
>>> be able to catch itself. Â I guess this is an accuracy vs precision argument
>>> as at least the stepper motor is stable in it's adjusted position.
>>>
>>> If you are getting oscillations or wobbles in your position with a servo
>>> then most of the time you are sending it a corrupted signal. Â This happens
>>> with microcontroller code whose servo libraries are not interrupt driven as
>>> the PWM signal gets corrupted by other processes. Â Or with unshielded cables
>>> that are experiencing crosstalk from other wiring.
>>>
>>> As with all things the hardware has to be matched with the job though. Â If
>>> your servo gears have lots of slop or aren't up to the job of positioning
>>> something heavy they will struggle. Â It's possible to use a potentiometer as
>>> a secondary encoder of position to help if your gearing is introducing extra
>>> error.
>>>
>>> -=[Scott]=-
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 2:37 PM, David Rorex drorex(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If you want ultra precise control, you need stepper motors. Or maybe
>>>> really expensive servos would work, but the cheap servo's I've used are only
>>>> accurate to a couple degrees and can wobble a little.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Scott Garrison
>>>> scottrobertgarrison(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd be interested in doing something similar for controlling a camera.
>>>>> I also have an extra house satellite dish that I would love to put to use.
>>>>> I have experience controlling servos with microcontrollers.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Scott
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Steve Berl steveberl(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I notice on the etherpad that someone is interested in a 2 axis control
>>>>>> for a radio dish. I'm interested in that also. In particular I want to mount
>>>>>> a house satellite TV dish sized antenna on a 2 axis mount for radio
>>>>>> astronomy use. It requires smooth and precise, but slow movement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who is it that is interested in this project? Can you get in contact
>>>>>> with me?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 5:43 PM, hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Howdy folks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are two days away from the beginning of the second microcontroller
>>>>>>> project hacking night at sudo room. Â As someone suggested, I created a
>>>>>>> facebookpage for the event. Â Please invite people you think might be
>>>>>>> interested! Â I previously ordered 10 ATMega328p chips and crystals, and will
>>>>>>> have them available at cost ($5) for those just starting out who want a
>>>>>>> basic controller.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Event Link:
>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/events/502675869769339/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, there is an etherpad to jot down projects you intend to work on
>>>>>>> in case anyone out there is interested in collaborating:
>>>>>>> https://pad.riseup.net/p/microbotics
>>>>>>> This will be an ongoing document, and is intended to provide a
>>>>>>> subsystem-level view of project elements in order to encourage people to
>>>>>>> join together to work on individual elements or principles where interests
>>>>>>> overlap in a way that permits a limited scope of collaboration, without
>>>>>>> having to commit to recurring work on an entire project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We had some interesting projects last time and I expect even more this
>>>>>>> time, hopefully with a few people from the last event returning to show what
>>>>>>> they've done with their projects since then. Â Personally I will try to go
>>>>>>> back and forth between  50% working on 2-3 projects, 30% getting newbies
>>>>>>> started on their controller builds, and 20% snacking/shooting the shit.
>>>>>>> Looking forward to seeing y'all!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Hol
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-steve
Come out and see the illustrious Ray as he ensnares the crowd in his
espresso and edible gold flake cotton candy! Join Yardena and I at the Sudo
Room table and see what goodies we have both brought and created to lure
future members in our direction....
16th St Mission BART. Noisebridge is on Mission, between 17th and 18th
street.
Sudoers,
Are there any of you who consider yourself an artist of a high-tech variety? I'm not exactly sure what that means, open to interpretation and learning.
Thanks,
j.
maybe you can silkscreen the math nerd zine using the rps collective
silkscreen printer?
here's a photo of the math nerd zine i took a few years ago
http://www.flickr.com/photos/35468138525@N01/3499107666
[image: Inline image 1]
Hellooooooo!
Sudo Room has been offered a table at tomorrow's 4-11p fundraiser upon
which we may spew out upon the world our creative pursuits. (In other
words, there will be a Sudo Booth!)
\-\-\-\-\-Would you like to bring your project or have it
represented?-/-/-/-/-/
I'm going to be arriving a little early. Please let me know if you'd like
to join me or have me set something up for you early-on or be your
representative. I will be stopping by Sudo Room beforehand. Maybe
like..noon-thirtyish?
PS: I neeeeed stickers. Who has 'em?
TONIGHT!Noisebridge hackerspace in San Francisco iscelebrating 5 years of eminent excellence! Saturday, 30-March, 4pm - 11pm People, geeks, dorks, hipsters, punks, anarchists around the world are converging on the world's premier hackerspace. Geeky music performance! Art! Food! Drink! Demos! Presentations!Workshops! Talks! Zines! Raffle! Silent Auction! Surprises! Fun! All ages! All welcome! More info, and complete live-music line-up:https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Art
