5 Sep
2014
5 Sep
'14
4:09 p.m.
i would be in favor of leaving it there and just tying into it with a
large enough size conduit rather than moving it
On 2014-09-05 15:25, Jake wrote:
Hi Whit,
that sub-panel is supplied by a double-breaker in the main breaker-box in the bar ice
room. We can switch it off and lock it out while we work on it.
I am saying there is literally nothing powered by that sub-panel besides maybe the light
in that upstairs room that looks like a bedroom and has a ceiling fan. There is nobody to
consult or ask permission, we can just do it.
There are federal-pacific breakers in other boxes in the building (aka fire hazards, they
are crappy breakers that should have been recalled) but this is not one of them. This is
an ordinary, modern breaker box, in slightly the wrong place.
I am assuming that the wiring to supply that box would reach equally well if it were
moved downward, but that may not be the case. If it is not, and it would be annoying to
move that box, we can just leave it there and go on with phase one. It's fine where it
is.
-jake
On Fri, 5 Sep 2014, Whitney Lawrence wrote:
> Jake,I like the way you think. I can say I'm not looking forward to coordinating
with whomever/whatever is being supplied from that sub-panel, and getting into a
territorial dispute along the lines of "but we're planning on using that".
I'm OK with commandeering the panel. Also I'd prefer not to have to move the box.
Do you think its critical that the sub panel be relocated to face into sudo? If so- so be
it. Finally, I'm not sure the utilization of the existing panel addresses the
inspection concern of "those panels are fire hazards" because I'm not
familiar with the model details/differences. Whit On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Jake
<jake(a)spaz.org> wrote: I believe the electrical panel in the balcony only supplies
one or two things (not including the robot, which is a temporary connection) I think we
should look into simply moving that breaker box down ten feet so it faces the server room,
and be done with it. On Fri, 5 Sep 2014, Whitney Lawrence wrote: Howdy,Let me begin with
thanking you for looking at the proposal. Your interpretation of the plans is
correct.{ Main -> above stage panel -> balcony panel } is how the proposed plan is
drawn. There is enough room in the balcony panel (which is the one located in the small
room that shares a wall with the server loft of sudoroom) to accomplish phase 1 of the
proposal. The proposal is based on instruction received to minimize cost. Ideally, there
would be a main panel breaker that supplies a sub panel for all of sudo's needs (phase
1 and phase 2). I can't accurately guess at a cost number for this type of
installation. Figure a 100amp sub with hundreds of feet of 2awg plus breaker box plus
breakers plus conduit plus hardware. All depending on if the main service can even handle
the additional power demands (hiring an electrician to run the calcs). Ballpark $3-5k
maybe- but its really a shot in the dark? My experience with this type of thing is there
is always a better way to do it, if you go the money. A
middle road is to plan on having the future sudo-sub panel placed near the balcony panel.
Build in an extra 5ft or so of wire for the future transition into the new sudo-sub panel.
All that would be needed is to remove the breakers from the old box re-run wire from J-box
1 to the new sudo-sub, as well as re-routing the 240V lines from the above stage panel to
the sudo-sub (and of course preform all the main -> suod-sub work). as far as existing
vs proposed. only the sub panels mentioned above exist currently- I'll make a note to
call out the existing stuff in the drawings. Thanks, Whit On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11:42 AM,
Cere Mona Davis <ceremona(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hi everyone. It's the first time I
have looked at these plans and I have some questions and thoughts. Dave said he won't
be able to respond to this email until a couple of days as he is out in the boonies
somewhere. So I am writing in to expedite some issues that I think he will likely bring up
in the days ahead. Whit, thanks
for drawing up these plans! For someone who is not intimately familiar with our electrical
layout the plans might need a more clear description of existing electrical vs. proposed
new electrical, however. In multiple conversations with Dave (and one on-site visit) he
has mentioned repeatedly that we will want to shoot for putting in another sub panel for
the sudoroom off of the main panel as the end-game; rather than daisy-chaining off of an
existing panel (the balcony) as what seems to be proposed here. If we can't
immediately put in a sub panel into the room, due to cost, we should at-least be planning
for conduit and wiring paths, etc that allows for a sudoroom sub-panel in the future.
Thoughts? -Cere On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:23 AM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote: Thanks
Yar! Whit can you liaise w/ Dave RE how much of the work is going to be done under the
first permit? Cheers, Hol On 2014-09-04 23:16, yar wrote: Hi all, Dave Pedroli is a
certified electrician who's offered to review
our plans to give them an okay. I'm copying him and the people who've been most
involved with electrical work. Dave, the latest plans are attached, and also available
online[1 [1]]. Could you please look them over and write us a few formal-sounding
sentences that boil down to "hello I am a real electrician and I say these plans are
solid"? This will help us make the landlord happy so he will let us do them. Thank
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