Re: [sudo-discuss] there are no LPFM slots on the FM band in the bay area, period.

agree on not having transmitter co-located with hq. dropping repeaters nearby can also prevent pinpointing by birds overhead. on Nov 03, 2013, NAOMI MOST <pnaomi(a)gmail.com [17]> wrote: > Dudes I was THERE managing tech for Pirate Cat went that all > went > down. See also: > >

> [1] > > The major difference here to what was suggested above is that > Pirate > Cat hosted its antenna in many many different places over the > years. > We moved it every 3 months or so. And 95% of the membership > didn't > know where it was. > > My point was to ask the question WHY put up the antenna at > all. > > The return on investment for putting up an antenna -- > particularly, > one physically located at the locus of control as opposed to > offsite > somewhere like in a van or something -- is pretty abysmal. > Listenership to the airwaves continues to drop. > > If you decided to jam some corporate radio station, you'd be > implicating Sudo Room and the feds would come down on it > sooner or > later. > > If you just wanted to squat some frequency in the lower band, > you'd > have an abysmal listenership at the cost of the power of > operating the > antenna. > > It's just not that compelling an exercise for the amount of > risk. > Not for me, anyway. I guess a lot of people still feel that > the > airwaves are somehow inherently exciting. > > --Naomi > > On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Gregg Horton > <greggahorton(a)gmail.com [2]> wrote: > > We agree on absolutely nothing so I abstain >> >> On Nov 3, 2013 5:17 PM, "GtwoG PublicOhOne" > <g2g-public01(a)att.net [3]> wrote: >>> > >> >>> If someone or a group wants to propose or operate a radio > station in an >>> act of peaceful civil disobedience, they should research > the regs, laws, >>> and potential penalties, and talk with an attorney who has > represented > >> clients who have engaged in similar acts in the past. That > would be a >>> project for a group that is not formally identical with SR. >>> >>> The most successful peaceful civil disobedience actions in > the past > >> fifty years have been conducted by people who were not > only >>> well-grounded in principles, but also had trained > themselves in how to >>> interact in a peaceful and effective manner with all of the > people they > >> would come into contact with, including law enforcement > and government >>> officials. The civil rights movement and the Clamshell > Alliance >>> anti-nuclear group are excellent examples to study, and > much of their > >> material can be found online. >>> >>> All of that said, online/internet radio is still the > fastest way to >>> reach an audience with no geographic limits or regulatory > risks, and >>> spreading the word is easy. Linkage with other online > broadcasters can > >> build up a seamless network with 24/7/365 coverage. >>> >>> To challenge the existing AM/FM broadcast status-quo, will > inevitably >>> require challenging station licenses in order to re-capture > spectrum. > >> And the best place to start is by challenging the crowding > of spectrum >>> by multiple redundant right-wing religious broadcasters. > The case for >>> it is clear and obvious in any area with strong cultural > diversity, and > >> a win is a victory on multiple fronts. >>> >>> Under-thinking, rather than over-thinking, is the risk for > failure. >>> Reaction is not action. >>> >>> -G >>> >>> > >> ===== >>> >>> >>> On 13-11-03-Sun 4:39 PM, Jake wrote: >>> >>> Just put a big fucking antenna on the roof and start > broadcasting, if >>> >>> you don't, i will, god damnit. > >> >>> >>> >>> Stop overthinking things and do it. >>> >> >>> >> Why? So you can inflict a $20,000 fine on Sudo Room as > quickly as >>> >> humanly possible? > >> > >>> > it takes a long time and a lot of work and listeners > before you even >>> > get the ten-day warning, let alone an unenforcable fine. > Don't forget >>> > that Berkeley Liberation Radio has been broadcasting for > almost ten > >> > years now, interrupted more often by their own failures > than by two >>> > FCC raids where the FCC basically snatched their > equipment and fled >>> > like cowards. >>> > >>> > No one at BLR has ever been successfully "fined", and > even the NAL > >> > (Notice of Apparent Liability) filed against Stephen > Dunifer of FRB >>> > before them has just sat uncollected, like almost all > NALs against >>> > pirates, for twenty years now. Stephen's very public > response to the > >> > Notice of Apparent Liability was "Apparently not." >>> > >>> > The FCC's fine enforcement mechanism is to threaten to > revoke your >>> > stations lisence. This works when they fine lisenced > broadcasters for > >> > the seven deadly words or whatever, but filed against an > unlisenced >>> > person it's a joke. Witness the fine against Daniel > Robert of Pirate >>> > Cat Radio, which is an example of a person who put his > full name all > >> > over everything and even corresponded with the FCC in > the mail, making >>> > it personal. They haven't even collected anything from > him. >>> > >>> > here's the story of pirate cat's fine: > >> > >>> > >

> [4] > >> > >>> > >>> > The point is, if sudoroom decides as a group to broadcast > a signal >>> > from the roof or wherever (we can stream over the > internet you know) >>> > then sudoroom can decide for itself whether it wants to > keep going > >> > after getting a "ten day notice to cease broadcasting" > If that EVER >>> > happens. >>> > >>> > > http://transition.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/2003/DOC-264276A1.html > [5] > >> > >>> > and if a broadcast is not coming from the building where > sudoroom is, >>> > then it is not even a matter for sudoroom to have to > decide on. >>> > Sudoroom can continue to have an internet streaming radio > station and > >> > leave it at that. >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > sudo-discuss mailing list >>> > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org [6] > >> > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss [7] >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ > >> sudo-discuss mailing list >>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org [8] >>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss [9] > > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org [10] >> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss [11] > > > > -- > Naomi Theora Most > naomi(a)nthmost.com [12] > +1-415-728-7490 [13] > > skype: nthmost > > http://twitter.com/nthmost [14] > _______________________________________________ > sudo-discuss mailing list > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org [15] > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss [16] _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org [18] http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss [19]