Re: [sudo-discuss] WOSP – City of Oakland’s Plan for Gentrification: A Target For Anti-Displacement Activity : Indybay

On May 17, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com> wrote: Right - the left is in their pockets, opposing development to maintain scarcity and increase property values. > On Saturday, May 17, 2014, Romy Snowyla <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote: > It's so awful. The rich just pay off people to drown out justice. There's nobody to speak for the poor an defenseless on these matters . Even the left is in their pockets > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 17, 2014, at 12:40 PM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> There's noticing to say - everyone that lives there is on a lease in a house. We already live here. The plan knows more people are coming, so we better have somewhere for them to live when they get here. >> >> The current w o houses are old. They rent for about $500/ bedroom. The new people coming can afford to pay more than that, and they want something newer than what is currently there. SO BUILD IT FOR THEM. >> >> If we don't build new buildings for new people the new people will move into our buildings and then we will have DISPLACEMENT. >> >> >> >> On Saturday, May 17, 2014, Romy Snowyla <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote: >> I like how the Indymedia article discusses the humans currently living on west Oakland. What will happen to them? >> Why are these people not discussed in the plan? How come the elderly black people aren't being drawn in the architectural mock ups? >> >> I'm not interested in discussing how useful or not useful calendaring apps are. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 17, 2014, at 11:44 AM, Jehan Tremback <jehan.tremback(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Romy, I'm pretty sure that all official municipal development plans have always been public. >>> >>> >>> On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Romy Snowyla <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote: >>> It's interesting how you're all so quick to attack the article especially when it makes a couple of good points. >>> >>> Not all of it is valid but it provides a needed transparency .. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On May 17, 2014, at 10:48 AM, Jehan Tremback <jehan.tremback(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> Suburban living is the solution to population increase? Explain? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Romy Snowyla <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote: >>>> I don't see anything wrong with Indy media although I don't agree with everything they say. They aren't driving rent up though so don't place all the blame on rent control. Any new real estate development will provide relatively few affordable units for shrine class people >>>> >>>> My main motivation for passing the email along was just so everything is clear and not obfuscated . The master plans in sf that have transformed the mission like Godzilla were never very clear to the public >>>> >>>> >>>> I don't understand the need to disparage calendar apps or apps in general. Many innovations are through things like process or paper checklists instead of 3D printers and drones. Being dismissive of those innovations is illogical >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On May 17, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This is an Orwellian notion of anti-displacement. >>>>> >>>>> In the face of increased population these people seek to build nothing new. I really can't understand what they think is going to happen when the population goes up but the housing stock doesn't. >>>>> >>>>> Sf tried that! Look what's happening there! It sucks! >>>>> >>>>> This is the saddest thing to me because all efforts like this do, is make building more expensive and difficult. That means the only things that get built are at higher price points. Or, if they're slightly successful, whole projects are blocked, and they miss the opportunity to get capital to build something useful, instead of something stupid like a new calendaring app. >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, May 16, 2014, Romy Snowyla <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2014/04/18/18754399.php >>>>> >>>>> WOSP – City of Oakland’s Plan for Gentrification: A Target For Anti-Displacement Activity : Indybay >>>>>