29 May
2015
29 May
'15
5:32 p.m.
Gabby. Someone being verbally abusive calling me an idiot and telling me to
shut up (yelling at me with threatening posture) makes my feeling unsafe
legitimate. I am not an "enforcer" I just voice my concerns and ask for
help when someone is acting abusive. If you have problems with me please
voice them. I understand that I have some personal problems but I do my
best to be accountable and humble to my communities concerns. Feel free to
voice things that you think are problematic about me and I will do my best
to be accountable to oppressive behavior. I don't feels its oppressive to
talk to your community about people or behaviors you find to be
problematic. If you feel like that there is a better way to a address
concerns let me know what your alternatives are.
On Monday, May 25, 2015, Gabrielle Silverman <gabbywingnut(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Elliot, with all due respect, I feel strongly that you
should step back
from the role of acting as "enforcer" for the building. I wish that there
was a better distinction between personal problems and community problems
that require community intervention, and I wish, Elliot, that you would
recognize that you have A LOT of personal problems with people everywhere
you go and that the role of the collective is not to make sure that
everyone wants to be your friend. I know that the purpose of this listserve
is not to publicly shame eachother but I am sick of this affecting every
project that you touch. Also I think using the language of "safety" in a
situation like this (that is uncomfortable but not unsafe) is super-
manipulative and will contribute towards people not taking serious words
seriously anymore and its a real problem. Please find a way to share space
and participate in community projects without appointing yourself as
enforcer or making yourself a spokesperson for groups that routinely
disagree with you on your process and analysis. Please just be Elliot, and
please find a way to deal. I am sorry if this hurts you or embarasses you.
Know that I will have your back when it gets real. We can talk more in
person if you like.
Gabby
On May 25, 2015 7:24 PM, "Jenny Ryan" <tunabananas(a)gmail.com
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tunabananas@gmail.com');>> wrote:
> If you two *are absolutely unable* to work through this conflict on your
> own, then please email mediation(a)omnicommons.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mediation@omnicommons.org');> to
request
> mediation.
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> Jenny
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> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 7:12 PM, yar <yardenack(a)gmail.com
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>> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 7:07 PM, WIld Cat <wildcatofthewoods(a)gmail.com
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wrote:
>> > No this is a fabrication of the issue she left something rotten in the
>> trash
>>
>> Maybe we should have a separate list for conflicts and mediation. Oh
>> wait, the Omni already has one:
>> https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/mediation
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