I am hoping we continue to occupy the current location under more favorable terms. The
access to not only BART, but city government, assemblies, events, community is appealing.
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Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Fwd: The Omni
From: David Keenan <dkeenan44(a)gmail.com>
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CC: Re: [sudo-discuss] Fwd: The Omni
Thanks Eddan for clarifying.
Im sad i missed the joint meeting with CCL re: moving in - we definitely need more
meatspace strategizing on making a 3-way move like that happen -
I'm really happy that marina and y'all are checking out the Omni and other
potential spaces - I'm going to start looking pretty hard and get BAPSers in on this
too - sounds like a guesstimated combo sudo/baps/ccl monthly budget would be ~$4500, does
that seem about right?
Re: SUDO moving into the Omni, it sounds super cool and personally I have no problem with
the location - but I do think if there are ppl living in the space, that might make it
challenging - conversely if there are lots of loud shows there, that might make having a
class tough? And more or less importantly.. are there windows in the Omni space? It's
be great if whatever space SUDO moved to had more natural light..
On Monday, September 30, 2013, Eddan Katz wrote:
Terminating the current lease means the latter, David. That is - at that point, a
new/better lease can be negotiated. Or not, if so decided.
While the details on what a co-op purchase would look like still have to be hammered out
in detail, it was my understanding from George that he was interested in an arrangement
that would include selling off equity in that portion. Different organizations would put
up money in their collective shares and that wing would be organized as a co-op with the
different organizational/individual owners taking part in the decision-making of managing
the building.
On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:05 PM, David Keenan wrote:
Hey guys,
Regarding leaving 2141 and scoping out new spaces..
I was hoping someone could fill me in on what is really meant by deciding we are
officially 'terminating the lease' in Dec. ?
Does it mean we are definitely out of 2141 come Jan., ie, we definitely dont want to stay
at 2141? Has that been decided?
Or, would we have the opportunity to negotiate a new/better lease if we did decide to keep
on at 2141?
Re: a co-op purchase of part of 2141, what are the brass tacks of that exactly? I..e, do
we have however many tens of thousands I imagine we would need for most mortgage
downpayments? Is there some angel investor here I dunno about?
Along the same lines what are our real-world options with respect buying the church, or
part of the Omni? Or are we just talking about renting part of the omni?
Personally, I'd prefer to move, but move with BAPS, SUDO, and CCL. It kind of seems
like maybe we should find a good place to move to, and understand what our combined budget
is. if SUDO moves out without BAPS that would suck for BAPS and also mean that SUDO would
probably get a smaller space than we would get if we combined forces, synchronized, and
all moved somewhere together (or mayber stayed at 2141 together, under more amenable
conditions). Staying together being the operative word to me here..
Best.
David
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 10:46 AM, David Rorex <drorex(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com> wrote:
*Half the room will still be avavilable, and could be Sudo's for approx $2k/month.
How many square feet are we getting in exchange for that $2k?
*It is 10 minutes walk from McArthur BART
That's not too bad, obviously closer is better, and MacArthur is not a very safe area
at night, but it's oakland, what are you gonna do
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Tracy Jacobs <kinetical(a)comcast.net> wrote:
You do realize that's very close to Ace Monster Toys? If Sudo room moves up to the
Berkeley Border, it would make sense to join with Ace Monster Toys. Also, in my opinion
that is way too far from Bart, and way too far from where I live, so I would probably not
ever go there.
Sounds like an interesting space though, and that is a better neighborhood than where AMT
is now. Maybe they would be interested in this space?
Tracy
It's 1.4 mi away, which is relatively close, though not a super convenient walking
distance. However they are looking for bigger cheaper spaces (minimum 3000 sq ft, and at
most $1/sqft), so I'm not sure this would work. Also they have a requirement that
anything over 2500sqft MUST have overhead sprinklers. That combined with the noise
constraints might be an issue, since AMT has lots of big noisy toys (large CNC router
tables, laser cutters, power saws, etc)
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