11 May
2014
11 May
'14
3:16 p.m.
Thanks for the link, Ryan. I don't think people doubt that
gentrification has its upsides - that's why it's so sought after for so
many people - but there are two main downsides, I'd say, that are
against the values we generally try to hold at Sudo Room.
1. Gentrification and its benefits target white middle-class families.
Even if many or most original residents who stay are financially better
off, those who are left are far less diverse, and racism plays a
fundamental role in the gentrification process.
2. Gentrified neighborhoods are generally home to fewer artists,
immigrants, and even aspiring hackers because these people can
frequently be poor to the point of destitution, even when their skill
level is high.
We do need to address the positives in order to have a dialog, to
educate and address the problems behind most gentrification efforts, and
try to increase financial health and stability in more positive,
socially responsible ways.
-Sam
On 05/11/2014 02:38 PM, Ryan Bethencourt wrote:
I'm intrigued by this discussion, what's
seemed odd to me for a while
is that the conversation seems to be very one sided, i.e. all
gentrification is bad, yet what about if it isn't? What if a rising
tide lifts all boats?
I came across an article a while back that was published on NPR (not
known for being biased one way or the other) which discussed the data
which actually tended to support the positive aspects of
gentrification for residents of poorer neighborhoods. It's worth a read:
"We're finding that the financial health of original residents in
gentrifying neighborhoods seems to be increasing, as compared to
original residents in nongentrifying, low-priced neighborhoods," says
Daniel Hartley, a research economist with the bank."
http://www.npr.org/2014/01/22/264528139/long-a-dirty-word-gentrification-ma…
I would also make the argument that spaces like Sudo Room, Public
Schools, LOL space, Counter Culture labs and etc actually make a net
positive impact for the entire community and yet do have a gentrifying
effect. We have much work yet to do but communal spaces, open
education and the maker movement have the potential to empower many
communities and I say that as someone that hopes to do more to help
lift others up, I think most of us are of the same mindset?
Upwards and Onwards!
Ryan
Sonja Trauss
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May 11, 2014 at 10:43 AM
Quick point - you guys know that it was the housing market crash
(sudden DECREASE in home values) that set off waves of foreclosures,
right?
In other words, suppose you're in one of these loans. You realized
what is about to happen to you ("FUCK! I can't afford the mortgage
after reset!) let's look at two scenereos:
Scenereo one: the value of your house has increased since you
purchased it two years ago. The house is worth more than you owe on
it, and there are many buyers interested in buying homes like yours
in your area.
Scenereo two: the value of your home has decreased since you
purchased it two years ago. The house is worth less than you owe on
it, and there are very few people interested in buying homes like
yours in your area.
Which scenero is better for you? What do you do in each scenereo?
On Sunday, May 11, 2014, Autonomous <autonomous666(a)gmail.com
<mailto:autonomous666@gmail.com>> wrote:
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executed
Indeed. It is particularly reprehensible that specific neighborhoods
in Oakland were targeted for predatory loans and fraudulent
foreclosures. The attached image shows foreclosures in Oakland
represented by small dots which is overlaid onto demographic data
showing non-white neighborhoods in red and white neighborhoods in
blue. See a pattern here? This is a form of economic warfare targeted
against people of color who have lost a massive amount of wealth
while investors have moved in to profit from the resulting increase
in real estate values.
The scam involves a loan with very low interest for a period of two
years followed by a dramatic increase in interest. When people ask
for a loan modification, they are told they need to miss a payment in
order to qualify - it's in the servicing contract. Then, upon missing
one payment, the bank refuses to accept any more payments by giving
the run-around and the home is subsequently foreclosed upon. If that
wasn't enough, people are forcibly removed from their homes by
illegal eviction proceedings. Typically the unfortunate former
homeowner only learns about the eviction when the police show up to
kick them out on the street along with all their possessions. This is
because they aren't served properly and have no idea a court action
even existed. This pattern was repeated over and over in Oakland, as
you can see in the attached image.
Inline image 2
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May 10, 2014 at 7:33 PM
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:29 PM, <batkid(a)gmx.com
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Don't worry, Oakland won't become the East Hamptons anytime soon
http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_25737160/oakland-man-shot-driving-truc…
http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_25732368/jurors-convict-man-murdering-…
http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_25731273/oakland-man-dies-from-injurie…
Oh good - I was getting worried about having too many museum shows
and cat video festivals in the neighborhood...
Patrik
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The museum shows, the cat festival.. I guess we are all part of
the master plan : P
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Don't worry, Oakland won't become the East Hamptons anytime soon
http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_25737160/oakland-man-shot-driving-truc…
http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_25732368/jurors-convict-man-murdering-…
http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_25731273/oakland-man-dies-from-injurie…
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The museum shows, the cat festival.. I guess we are all part of the
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