19 Mar
2013
19 Mar
'13
2:47 p.m.
Addendum:
I think sudo room is approaching things in a very different and
interesting way, so what I said above isn't meant to disparage. I'm
just trying to offer some cultural perspective as to why you're not
getting anything close to a significant percentage of interest in
participation in the Bureaucracy Special Interest Project that is
taking up geometrically-expanding amounts of time.
It's clear to myself and several others who have already spoken up
that what's being written seems to be only read by those who are
interested in writing it.
It kind of has the feel of trying to edit an Apache file by group
consensus. You've got 2-3 sysadmins deliberating over the operating
parameters, and like 2 dozen devs sitting there going, "yeah whatever,
we'll write some .htaccess files or launch our own webservers." If
indeed they are paying even that much attention.
So, how about editing Bureaucracy.config at a separate meeting?
Doesn't seem like anybody would be too put out about that. Those who
are can come to that meeting.
--Naomi
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Naomi Most <pnaomi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Look, here's the problem with deliberating long
hours over bureaucracy
in a hacker organization:
Greetings lovelies,
If I may step in with some perspective based on about a decade of
hanging out in hacker groups...
Hackers' primary M.O. is GETTING AROUND RULES.
So, if you, on an individual level, enjoy making up rules and getting
semantics perfect, you should do that... as a project... on your own
time.
Because I guarantee you that *at least* those 11 people who abstained
last week, plus several more I'm sure, were sitting there completely
disengaged from that special interest project, because it is not
fundamentally interesting.
Why is it not interesting? Well, for something to be interesting, it
has to feel as though it actually affects you.
If you believe that rules are made for getting-around, then of what
interest is it, really, what the content of those rules actually is?
I can make some strong arguments as to why front-loading your
rules-making in a hacker culture is a waste of time at best, and
dangerous at worst. (One example: some of the people who are most
interested in the letter of the law turn out to be the most interested
in twisting it to their own ends.)
But to be honest, I'd rather get back to hacking.
I'll see some of you tonight for sudo room radio stuff. Many of you I
will not see for radio stuff, because it may not be of interest. :)
Cheers,
Naomi
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