[sudo-discuss] Re: Sudo Room member banned from Omni Commons

*On what evidence is your statement about Sierk abusing women based?* *

On Wed, Sep 11, 2024, 12:25 PM Ashley T &lt;ashleydurdenclub(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > > I know there have been many safety issues lately and I know that this >> person mistreats women. I want no part of that. >> > > I hope this answers your question about why I do not feel safe visiting > Sudo, Edwin. > Are you a member of Sudo Room ? > Is there a meeting tonight ? > >> > > > *On Wed, Sep 11, 2024, 11:16 Edwinsaurus &lt;plutosaurus(a)gmail.com > &lt;plutosaurus(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt; wrote:* > > *Why don't you feel safe? * > > > > - Ash > > > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2024, 11:12 AM Ashley T via sudo-discuss < >> sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org&gt; wrote: >> >>> Thank you, I do wish to add that I will feel safer if this is acted >>> upon immediately though. >>> >>> - Ash >>> >>> >>> I am checking if the Sudo Room received info about a member being >>> banned from Omni Commons. >>> >>> Sierk was banned by a Food Not Bombs member yesterday and the ban went >>> into effect immediately for the whole Omni building. >>> >>> >>> Highlighted information of Sierk being banned by FNB member: >>> >>> "Sierk - I think not making Omni your home and being open to receiving >>> >>> proper medic care will help you.* >>> *- It would be better if you don't repeat the dishonesty in your response >>> to volunteers so they can better help you.**- Please remove all your belongings and yourself from the building.* *You >>> are no longer welcome in the space due to the numerous concerns mentioned.**- Currently there are no mediations nor restorative justice planned (from >>> me anyway) since it may be too late, we didn't prioritize the incidents >>> when it first occurred.* >>> *-If you can, do some reflecting and reach out to whoever you feel >>> comfortable speaking with.*" >>> >>> [ebfnb] Sierk update*Toan Nguyen* guqinone at gmail.com >>> <ebfnb%40lists.omnicommons.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5Bebfnb%5D%20Sierk%20update&In-Reply-To=%3CCAA4J92ukFQdtb-fSgt3xq%3D8d%3D-3HGn4R1DrViZmxaOgdBR11Hw%40mail.gmail.com%3E> >>> *Mon Sep 9 06:35:43 PDT 2024* >>> >>> >>> - Previous message (by thread): [ebfnb] Fwd: Homeless Anthology >>> <https://omnicommons.org/lists/private/ebfnb/2024-September/007857.html> >>> - Next message (by thread): [ebfnb] Sierk update >>> <https://omnicommons.org/lists/private/ebfnb/2024-September/007861.html> >>> - *Messages sorted by:* [ date ] >>> <https://omnicommons.org/lists/private/ebfnb/2024-September/date.html#7858> >>> [ thread ] >>> <https://omnicommons.org/lists/private/ebfnb/2024-September/thread.html#7858> >>> [ subject ] >>> <https://omnicommons.org/lists/private/ebfnb/2024-September/subject.html#7858> >>> [ author ] >>> <https://omnicommons.org/lists/private/ebfnb/2024-September/author.html#7858> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> *I have concerns on Sierk volunteering within EBFNB.* >>> *I think the concerns are serious enough that Sierk no longer be part of >>> East Bay Food Not Bombs and Omni for the time being.* >>> >>> *EB PREC / CALLI will have issues with Sierk inhabiting the building.* >>> *The lax atmosphere at Omni enables individuals taking advantage...* >>> >>> *...Sierk's disregard and disrespect of the communal spaces around Omni is >>> an ongoing problem for years. We have been following up and the results >>> were more negative and dishonesty from him.* >>> >>> *Below are updates and concerns:* >>> >>> - On Tuesday August 20th, the Tuesday and Friday WFM (Bay & Harrison >>> Oakland) pick up crew agreed to stop donations going to Omni's food >>> giveaway on Tuesday / Friday that Sierk coordinated. >>> >>> - On Thursday September 5th, I have asked Sierk to stop handling EBFNB >>> donations and he agreed. >>> >>> - I'm also asking Sierk to stop welcoming people who are not a part of Omni >>> to go in our fridge downstairs and help themselves on their own. I found >>> out on Friday (Sept. 6) after two people were seen doing that and they told >>> me Sierk gave them permission. >>> There was no communication from Sierk to any EBFNB volunteers or Omni >>> members. >>> (My leniency reached its limit from this) >>> >>> *The concerns are:* >>> >>> *- Food handling from Sierk are unkempt, unsanitary, unhygienic body and >>> foul body odor.* >>> >>> *- Sierk never proposed the food giveaway event (on Tues / Fri) to neither >>> Omni or EBFNB for a discussion and approval.* *Despite several request and >>> suggestions to do so.* >>> >>> *- Non communicative and irresponsible and disrespectful with food >>> donations and usage of EBFNB spaces and in other areas at Omni.* >>> *Recently there were hundreds of pounds of food (grains stored in the >>> kitchen) that had to be discarded that he accepted and not taking >>> responsibility for it. Leaving it out that attracted rats, and volunteers >>> to deal with.* >>> *Smelly soiled clothing of his were found in the corners of the kitchen.* >>> *This was addressed to him and he disregarded it.* >>> >>> *- Inappropriate and erratic behaviors towards volunteers.* >>> *Includes talking down to and shouting at people.* >>> *There's a video footage (taken by an Omni member) of Sierk shouting at a >>> new EBFNB volunteer. She disengaged and walked away.* >>> *His angry behavior is a pattern towards volunteers including myself last >>> Thursday the 29th.* >>> >>> *- M**ade decisions that risks the building and people in it to harm. >>> Includes allowing known problematic persons in (that are not members of any >>> groups at Omni).* >>> >>> *- Disregard multiple requests to not sleep inside Omni, not cleaning up >>> after usage of space.* >>> *Sierk sleeps in Omni sitting up on his desk area and when approached he >>> says he is working (non Omni or collectives related) on his laptop late >>> into the night or all nighters. His leg is swelling up as a suspected >>> result of habitual sleeping while sitting up.* >>> >>> *- Rejected several offers from different people to assist in getting >>> proper medical care. Have been self diagnosing his body as a "medical >>> condition" and using it as a reason for behavior.* >>> >>> *- P**rior violent verbal interactions at volunteers. Was never held >>> accountable or acknowledged wrong doings and tried to justify his actions >>> (and believable to some volunteers...)* >>> *This preventable harm resulted in several upset volunteers that are afraid >>> and hurt to quit EBFNB and not going to Omni specifically to avoid him.* >>> >>> *This is not an exhaustive list and there are proof for all the concerns >>> and claims.* >>> >>> *The concerns has negatively affected collectives and the spaces in the >>> building; Liberated Lens, Sacred Maker Arts Collective, individuals at >>> Omni, and volunteers within EBFNB.* >>> *The organizations, individuals, and volunteers has put in their numerous >>> complaints and it was addressed without a sustained helpful solution, >>> acknowledgement, or accountability from EBFNB.* >>> >>> *I foresee new complaints to us from the new entity that will soon manage / >>> be responsible to the building begining this week.* >>> *On Friday they discovered another person who appears to be sleeping in a >>> part of the building:* >>> *" *He said he was not sleeping there, and would be leaving at 6pm after >>> doing some sewing. I hope my concern is unfounded, but it definitely looked >>> like he might be staying there. When I asked what collective he was a part >>> of he said he was with CC. There were also some cats with him. >>> >>> Since CALLI doesn’t own the property yet I can’t really take any action. I >>> am hopeful he does leave by 6pm today, but wanted to alert you delegates >>> since until Monday or Tuesday you are still responsible for the building. I >>> would appreciate if you could make your best non-violent efforts to ensure >>> that space is vacant by the time CALLI does take ownership and >>> responsibility for the space. *"* >>> >>> The person mentioned above is not Sierk. I'm sharing this to share a sense >>> of how the building will be managed. >>> >>> I have been patiently following up throughout the years and was >>> unsuccessful in my attempts to remedy the situation. >>> There are others that have been trying to help without success. We had a >>> help Sierk committee that was created this mid year that included several >>> of us: Ron, Helen, Joe, Judith and I. >>> I have not shared updates to this email list since a couple of volunteers >>> (Judith, Ron) requested I don't do that or even mention his name. Our >>> attempts to support failed and we need to update / reach out to the larger >>> group. >>> >>> *Sierk - I think not making Omni your home and being open to receiving >>> proper medic care will help you.* >>> *- It would be better if you don't repeat the dishonesty in your response >>> to volunteers so they can better help you.* >>> *- Please remove all your belongings and yourself from the building.* *You >>> are no longer welcome in the space due to the numerous concerns mentioned.* >>> *- Currently there are no mediations nor restorative justice planned (from >>> me anyway) since it may be too late, we didn't prioritize the incidents >>> when it first occurred.* >>> *-If you can, do some reflecting and reach out to whoever you feel >>> comfortable speaking with.* >>> >>> Compassion differs from pity. Pitying Sierk isn't helping him or us in any >>> space, it doesn't address solutions but provides a temporary sense of >>> relief such as bringing him clean clothes and food regularly and not >>> laundry / food service that he can attend to himself (the clothes begins to >>> soiled in corners and food accumulates and spoils in the upstairs fridge). >>> Pity prolongs the problems and makes it difficult for the person to grow >>> out of the accustomed unhealthy lifestyle. >>> >>> All - Please refrain (especially those who do not frequent Omni to have >>> enough understanding) from reacting to my message. We can have >>> conversations and talk about it further for details and context, which I >>> can be open to share more. >>> >>> If a fluid meeting is necessary I can set up a video call where we can all >>> interact in a timely manner and see each other. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Toan >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2024, 6:52 PM Judith Gips <yipslsquirrel2 at gmail.com <https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/ebfnb>> wrote: >>> >>> >* Thank you for keeping us posted. >>> *>>* Has Sierk tried Suitcase Clinic? great all volunteer program that includes >>> *>* physicians, podiatrists, chiropractors, and more. >>> *>>* I can buy some soap, shampoo etc and maybe some clothing. >>> *>>* On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 4:30 PM Ron Weisberg <ronwei at yahoo.com <https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/ebfnb>> wrote: >>> *>>>* Hi all, Toan, Sierk and I met Friday afternoon as follow up on hygiene >>> *>>* and food handling. Here’s what I have observed and shared with Toan and >>> *>>* Sierk: >>> *>>>>* 1. Overall hygiene seems better, less odor and generally better body and >>> *>>* clothes cleanliness >>> *>>>>* 2. Reduced handling of food by Sierk; I am there at 12:30 on Fridays to >>> *>>* sort the food donations. (We are still looking for Tuesday help.) >>> *>>>>* 3. Sierk has relocated to another part of OMNI, so no longer in proximity >>> *>>* to the collectives which have complained. >>> *>>>>* HELP STILL NEEDED >>> *>>>>* 1. Sierk needs help with laundry and bathing (has a few options but needs >>> *>>* more) >>> *>>>>* 2. Needs more clothes; at least another change of shirt, trousers and >>> *>>* jacket and socks. Perhaps someone could take him shopping. Shirt and >>> *>>* Jacket size = x-large; trousers = 38X34; shoe = 12. >>> *>>>>* 3. Needs medical attention to his lower leg persistent skin problem; >>> *>>* complicated by possibility any free service will end up being billed to a >>> *>>* third party, who has assisted in the past; Sierk does not want this. >>> *>>>>* Please contact Sierk directly if you can help. >>> *>>>>* Ron >>> *>>>>>>