Re: [sudo-discuss] post-Bike Smut follow-up

Rabbit, As far as I can tell, your message of May 20 has gone without much response. I think this needs to be said: your message unkind, judgmental, and damaging to the producers of the Bike Smut film and event. While I recognize that there's room for interpretation and a variety of opinions, you stated your opinion as though it were fact, and went on to propose a new policy for Sudo Room based on that fact. I believe that is a damaging kind of behavior in a community, and hope not to see it repeated. Please see below: On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 2:29 AM, Rabbit <rabbitface(a)gmail.com> wrote: The idea that Bike Smut supports rape culture is stands in strong opposution to my understanding of the project's values. One of the main goals of Bike Smut as I understand it is to foster healthy dialogue about sexuality. I saw the short film you're discussing, and agree that it presented a disconserting, non-consentual act. But it no more *supports* that act than Hans Christian Anderson supported "child-eating" culture when he told the story of the big bad wolf. If you disagree, that's fair. Perhaps they have strayed from their values. I think the most respectful way to express that opinion would be to go straight to the producers, who maintain open lines of communication, and tell them. Hold them accountable to their stated desire to present material that fosters healthy communication; initiate a discussion. Posting an insult to a public mailing list, though, as far as I can tell does no good at all, and has the potential to do great damage. 2. Consent in the audience: Let's be careful to let the audience know if It's hard for me to imagine *any* porn that does not contain things that are triggering or difficult for *many* people. I was very uncomfortable attending the Bike Smut event, but chose to embrace that discomfort as an opportunity to experience new things and maybe learn or grow. It seems to me that specific trigger warnings targeted to specific audiences would never be complete, and would be extranous -- I think labeling it as a "porn screening" to begin with is trigger warning enough. Both of these are very serious issues. In the future I think we need to No real opinion here, except that I think if anyone takes this on, they will find it's pretty difficult to find things to present that are both interesting and 100% inoffensive to everyone. Agreed, that was probably my favorite part too. I thought the energy of the producers and the audience was excellent and inspiring. -Pete p.s. Since lots of people on this list probably don't know me: I've been to Sudo Room a handful of times, and am a big fan of its existence and mission, and hope to be more involved in the future. I've also known Rev. Phil, the guy behind Bike Smut, for over 10 years and consider him a close friend and an inspiration.