27 Mar
2014
27 Mar
'14
9:25 a.m.
Eddan's got it right:
"Additionally, I think there may be some misunderstanding about what having
an open knowledge, commons-oriented set of agreements. The logic of open
knowledge systems is to celebrate the spread of these norms as they become
more widely adopted - concern about 'copying and pasting' seem to
perpetuate an exclusive rights kind of thinking."
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:39 AM, eddan.com <eddan(a)sudoroom.tv> wrote:
While I agree with concerns about top-down ownership,
I think it is
important to recognize their success in regards to diversity. Both in terms
of who works there during the day and the kind of events they hold, I have
been impressed by how connected the place is to the community - at any
point in time you'll see a majority of people of color and more often more
women than men - both areas in which Sudo Room has struggled with since its
inception.
Additionally, I think there may be some misunderstanding about what having
an open knowledge, commons-oriented set of agreements. The logic of open
knowledge systems is to celebrate the spread of these norms as they become
more widely adopted - concern about 'copying and pasting' seem to
perpetuate an exclusive rights kind of thinking.
On Mar 24, 2014, at 8:55 PM, Yar wrote:
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On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Danny Spitzberg
<stationaery(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> I'm currently renewing my HUB membership
(already
> 3 years in, a really open-minded organizer is has their community
engagement
role) and
was prompted to click agree/disagree with the following:
[snip]
So, my question: has there been any discussion around membership
recruitment/ retention/ rebooting?
I added this to our meeting agenda on a whim. Most of the discussion
was me being bitter about their co-option of language. Hol had the
quote of the night: "they're ctrl-v-ing the hell out of us", referring
to the Kopimist cut-and-paste mantra.
I'd always been skeptical of them. Their fundraiser got 100k in one
night, and they charge $400/month for their co-working space. They
have paid positions, and their leadership appears hierarchical and
opaque. For example, there is no mailing list, only a glitzy
"newsletter". While I was inspired by their hosting Oakland Data Day,
I felt most of the value came from volunteer attendees. In other
words, where is that money going?
This ridiculous video didn't help me take the "impact hub" concept
seriously: http://vimeo.com/35373512
Put simply, Sudoroom is a grassroots organization and always will be.
Our ultimate goal is to serve our communities. I believe the HUB's
ultimate goal is to extract rent from our communities.
After reading on Oakland Wiki yesterday that their building is owned
by Signature, the same developers behind Brooklyn Basin, I believe all
hypothetical good faith I had in that project has vanished. It's
marketing, marketing, marketing. You could argue the HUB is not their
landlord, but then why are they naming their new building complex "The
Hive"? It turns out this "hive" also includes the 5 story condo
building a block from Sudo that has literally had a "now selling" sign
since we moved in two years ago. This is absolutely a collaboration
between speculators and gentrifiers in my mind, and I think it is
extremely gross and fucked up.
To be honest, I think we'd be very wise as an organization to
explicitly distance ourselves from these kinds of projects.
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