24 Jul
2014
24 Jul
'14
3:54 p.m.
Can anyone at Omni block off the loading zone and the space behind it for
the truck that's coming to remove the debris situation outside Omni on 48th?
Can I also get all available hands to help load the truck up from at least
8pm on tonight? I know the OOC meeting will probably run late, but we need
some bodies to help load up that truck. If we do not load up the truck, we
risk getting cited for obstruction and that could be several hundred
dollars at this point considering the amount of stuffs.
I've arranged with J.C. & Ricky to bring their box truck to Omni in a
couple hours so we can do a dump run. They will have to be remunerated. I
don't know what it will be but it should be under $600 total. John had
scheduled with Waste Management for bulky pickup (which was also going to
be expensive due to the amount and type of stuff) but they flaked for 2
days, then said they can't take ceiling tiles, or broken-up furniture, or
actually pretty much anything we have out there, so it will have to be
hauled. Other options like a dumpster was explored but this was really
expensive and we would not get it for days (at least $750 + cost of parking
obstruction permit from city = over ~$1000). I don't anticipate the cost of
hauling exceeding $600 but this will have to be assessed by Ricky, JC et al
with the truck.
Note the cost of disposal will mostly be on john but partly on OOC. That's
because John doesn't think he should have to pay for e.g. the disposal of
the ceiling tiles from the bookstore-cafe (that collective should pay for
that), or actually, the extra 3 big wardrobes removed from CCL/Sudo room,
or of our garbage that we did not put out on Tuesday, etc. The exact
portion we are responsible for needs to be negotiated a bit with John (I
don't think this will not be a big deal), but re: the wardrobes for
example, as John expressed, since Sudo took 3 of them and we are keeping
one in the ballroom (4 total), we are also responsible for the other 3 we
don't need - it was a take them all or take none sort of deal (yar can
perhaps speak better to this). So who is responsible for what on our side
will need to be sorted out, I figure our responsibility is about 30%. We
had probably 7-8 bags of garbage and many, many bags of ceiling tiles, the
wardrobes were big and heavy, etc.
David
24 Jul
24 Jul
4:02 p.m.
I just want to say that I think the conversation that is going to happen
about violence in our communities needs to take precedence over everyone
leaving the meeting half-way through to load up the truck. I worry that it
will be seen as a real lack of care if this happens.
Is there any way we can do this at 9pm rather than 8pm?
N
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 3:54 PM, David Keenan <dkeenan44(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Can anyone at Omni block off the loading zone and the
space behind it for
the truck that's coming to remove the debris situation outside Omni on 48th?
Can I also get all available hands to help load the truck up from at least
8pm on tonight? I know the OOC meeting will probably run late, but we need
some bodies to help load up that truck. If we do not load up the truck, we
risk getting cited for obstruction and that could be several hundred
dollars at this point considering the amount of stuffs.
I've arranged with J.C. & Ricky to bring their box truck to Omni in a
couple hours so we can do a dump run. They will have to be remunerated. I
don't know what it will be but it should be under $600 total. John had
scheduled with Waste Management for bulky pickup (which was also going to
be expensive due to the amount and type of stuff) but they flaked for 2
days, then said they can't take ceiling tiles, or broken-up furniture, or
actually pretty much anything we have out there, so it will have to be
hauled. Other options like a dumpster was explored but this was really
expensive and we would not get it for days (at least $750 + cost of parking
obstruction permit from city = over ~$1000). I don't anticipate the cost of
hauling exceeding $600 but this will have to be assessed by Ricky, JC et al
with the truck.
Note the cost of disposal will mostly be on john but partly on OOC. That's
because John doesn't think he should have to pay for e.g. the disposal of
the ceiling tiles from the bookstore-cafe (that collective should pay for
that), or actually, the extra 3 big wardrobes removed from CCL/Sudo room,
or of our garbage that we did not put out on Tuesday, etc. The exact
portion we are responsible for needs to be negotiated a bit with John (I
don't think this will not be a big deal), but re: the wardrobes for
example, as John expressed, since Sudo took 3 of them and we are keeping
one in the ballroom (4 total), we are also responsible for the other 3 we
don't need - it was a take them all or take none sort of deal (yar can
perhaps speak better to this). So who is responsible for what on our side
will need to be sorted out, I figure our responsibility is about 30%. We
had probably 7-8 bags of garbage and many, many bags of ceiling tiles, the
wardrobes were big and heavy, etc.
David
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4:42 p.m.
Hey all -
The OOC meeting is WAY more important than moving garbage around - no one
should feel like they have to leave the OOC meeting to help - and I'm so
sorry if I gave that impression! Given the late-breaking aspect of this (ie
its remediation in the next few hours) I just wanted to make sure it came
up at the meeting as a partial cost to us and that it be approved, and
mostly wanted to ask for help from the community to load up with truck
today. Since it was one email of many to the list, I wanted to make sure
people noticed (ergo the all-caps subject line) since due to list volume, a
lot of emails to the list can take a while to be read (I know it is that
way for me)..
So sorry if I came off as overly imperative or that anyone should leave
this OOC meeting or any collective meeting to help - this OOC meeting is in
particular hugely important. I just know there may be folks from
collectives and on the list who were perhaps *not* planning on attending
the OOC meeting, but could still be on-hand to assist with this - it
shouldn't take too too long.
Normally, Mary would be coordinating this I think but she is away for a bit
so I am trying to fill in - and we have gotten complaints from neighbors,
citations have been mentioned etc and I just wanna take care o business so
to speak and get this settled quickly before it gets more expensive or
neighbors get grouchy. That was my only thought. Love!
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 4:02 PM, niki <niki.shelley(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I just want to say that I think the conversation that
is going to happen
about violence in our communities needs to take precedence over everyone
leaving the meeting half-way through to load up the truck. I worry that it
will be seen as a real lack of care if this happens.
Is there any way we can do this at 9pm rather than 8pm?
N
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 3:54 PM, David Keenan <dkeenan44(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Can anyone at Omni block off the loading zone and
the space behind it for
the truck that's coming to remove the debris situation outside Omni on 48th?
Can I also get all available hands to help load the truck up from at
least 8pm on tonight? I know the OOC meeting will probably run late, but we
need some bodies to help load up that truck. If we do not load up the
truck, we risk getting cited for obstruction and that could be several
hundred dollars at this point considering the amount of stuffs.
I've arranged with J.C. & Ricky to bring their box truck to Omni in a
couple hours so we can do a dump run. They will have to be remunerated. I
don't know what it will be but it should be under $600 total. John had
scheduled with Waste Management for bulky pickup (which was also going to
be expensive due to the amount and type of stuff) but they flaked for 2
days, then said they can't take ceiling tiles, or broken-up furniture, or
actually pretty much anything we have out there, so it will have to be
hauled. Other options like a dumpster was explored but this was really
expensive and we would not get it for days (at least $750 + cost of parking
obstruction permit from city = over ~$1000). I don't anticipate the cost of
hauling exceeding $600 but this will have to be assessed by Ricky, JC et al
with the truck.
Note the cost of disposal will mostly be on john but partly on OOC.
That's because John doesn't think he should have to pay for e.g. the
disposal of the ceiling tiles from the bookstore-cafe (that collective
should pay for that), or actually, the extra 3 big wardrobes removed from
CCL/Sudo room, or of our garbage that we did not put out on Tuesday, etc.
The exact portion we are responsible for needs to be negotiated a bit with
John (I don't think this will not be a big deal), but re: the wardrobes for
example, as John expressed, since Sudo took 3 of them and we are keeping
one in the ballroom (4 total), we are also responsible for the other 3 we
don't need - it was a take them all or take none sort of deal (yar can
perhaps speak better to this). So who is responsible for what on our side
will need to be sorted out, I figure our responsibility is about 30%. We
had probably 7-8 bags of garbage and many, many bags of ceiling tiles, the
wardrobes were big and heavy, etc.
David
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4:45 p.m.
Yes, we can say 9pm - there is a loud noises cut-off time ordinance with
the city and with john which is 10pm - as long as we get it in the truck
before then, I think we're cool.
A smaller version of this problem happened at 2141 and if it stays
overnight, people go through it and spread garbage around but also just
start dumping all their crap on it too which makes it more expensive and
hectic for us.. thats what happened before, I managed that issue at 2141, I
know how it can get worse, so I'm trying to head it off as it were
Love!
David
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 4:42 PM, David Keenan <dkeenan44(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey all -
The OOC meeting is WAY more important than moving garbage around - no one
should feel like they have to leave the OOC meeting to help - and I'm so
sorry if I gave that impression! Given the late-breaking aspect of this (ie
its remediation in the next few hours) I just wanted to make sure it came
up at the meeting as a partial cost to us and that it be approved, and
mostly wanted to ask for help from the community to load up with truck
today. Since it was one email of many to the list, I wanted to make sure
people noticed (ergo the all-caps subject line) since due to list volume, a
lot of emails to the list can take a while to be read (I know it is that
way for me)..
So sorry if I came off as overly imperative or that anyone should leave
this OOC meeting or any collective meeting to help - this OOC meeting is in
particular hugely important. I just know there may be folks from
collectives and on the list who were perhaps *not* planning on attending
the OOC meeting, but could still be on-hand to assist with this - it
shouldn't take too too long.
Normally, Mary would be coordinating this I think but she is away for a
bit so I am trying to fill in - and we have gotten complaints from
neighbors, citations have been mentioned etc and I just wanna take care o
business so to speak and get this settled quickly before it gets more
expensive or neighbors get grouchy. That was my only thought. Love!
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 4:02 PM, niki <niki.shelley(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I just want to say that I think the conversation
that is going to happen
about violence in our communities needs to take precedence over everyone
leaving the meeting half-way through to load up the truck. I worry that it
will be seen as a real lack of care if this happens.
Is there any way we can do this at 9pm rather than 8pm?
N
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 3:54 PM, David Keenan <dkeenan44(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Can anyone at Omni block off the loading zone and
the space behind it
for the truck that's coming to remove the debris situation outside Omni on
48th?
Can I also get all available hands to help load the truck up from at
least 8pm on tonight? I know the OOC meeting will probably run late, but we
need some bodies to help load up that truck. If we do not load up the
truck, we risk getting cited for obstruction and that could be several
hundred dollars at this point considering the amount of stuffs.
I've arranged with J.C. & Ricky to bring their box truck to Omni in a
couple hours so we can do a dump run. They will have to be remunerated. I
don't know what it will be but it should be under $600 total. John had
scheduled with Waste Management for bulky pickup (which was also going to
be expensive due to the amount and type of stuff) but they flaked for 2
days, then said they can't take ceiling tiles, or broken-up furniture, or
actually pretty much anything we have out there, so it will have to be
hauled. Other options like a dumpster was explored but this was really
expensive and we would not get it for days (at least $750 + cost of parking
obstruction permit from city = over ~$1000). I don't anticipate the cost of
hauling exceeding $600 but this will have to be assessed by Ricky, JC et al
with the truck.
Note the cost of disposal will mostly be on john but partly on OOC.
That's because John doesn't think he should have to pay for e.g. the
disposal of the ceiling tiles from the bookstore-cafe (that collective
should pay for that), or actually, the extra 3 big wardrobes removed from
CCL/Sudo room, or of our garbage that we did not put out on Tuesday, etc.
The exact portion we are responsible for needs to be negotiated a bit with
John (I don't think this will not be a big deal), but re: the wardrobes for
example, as John expressed, since Sudo took 3 of them and we are keeping
one in the ballroom (4 total), we are also responsible for the other 3 we
don't need - it was a take them all or take none sort of deal (yar can
perhaps speak better to this). So who is responsible for what on our side
will need to be sorted out, I figure our responsibility is about 30%. We
had probably 7-8 bags of garbage and many, many bags of ceiling tiles, the
wardrobes were big and heavy, etc.
David
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4:48 p.m.
You're the best! Thanks for handling this and let's try to find another
point person to communicate w/John while Mary's away so it doesn't just
fall back on you.
xoxoxoxo
N
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 4:45 PM, David Keenan <dkeenan44(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, we can say 9pm - there is a loud noises cut-off
time ordinance with
the city and with john which is 10pm - as long as we get it in the truck
before then, I think we're cool.
A smaller version of this problem happened at 2141 and if it stays
overnight, people go through it and spread garbage around but also just
start dumping all their crap on it too which makes it more expensive and
hectic for us.. thats what happened before, I managed that issue at 2141, I
know how it can get worse, so I'm trying to head it off as it were
Love!
David
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 4:42 PM, David Keenan <dkeenan44(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey all -
The OOC meeting is WAY more important than moving garbage around - no one
should feel like they have to leave the OOC meeting to help - and I'm so
sorry if I gave that impression! Given the late-breaking aspect of this (ie
its remediation in the next few hours) I just wanted to make sure it came
up at the meeting as a partial cost to us and that it be approved, and
mostly wanted to ask for help from the community to load up with truck
today. Since it was one email of many to the list, I wanted to make sure
people noticed (ergo the all-caps subject line) since due to list volume, a
lot of emails to the list can take a while to be read (I know it is that
way for me)..
So sorry if I came off as overly imperative or that anyone should leave
this OOC meeting or any collective meeting to help - this OOC meeting is in
particular hugely important. I just know there may be folks from
collectives and on the list who were perhaps *not* planning on attending
the OOC meeting, but could still be on-hand to assist with this - it
shouldn't take too too long.
Normally, Mary would be coordinating this I think but she is away for a
bit so I am trying to fill in - and we have gotten complaints from
neighbors, citations have been mentioned etc and I just wanna take care o
business so to speak and get this settled quickly before it gets more
expensive or neighbors get grouchy. That was my only thought. Love!
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 4:02 PM, niki <niki.shelley(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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I just want to say that I think the conversation
that is going to happen
about violence in our communities needs to take precedence over everyone
leaving the meeting half-way through to load up the truck. I worry that it
will be seen as a real lack of care if this happens.
Is there any way we can do this at 9pm rather than 8pm?
N
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 3:54 PM, David Keenan <dkeenan44(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Can anyone at Omni block off the loading zone and
the space behind it
for the truck that's coming to remove the debris situation outside Omni on
48th?
Can I also get all available hands to help load the truck up from at
least 8pm on tonight? I know the OOC meeting will probably run late, but we
need some bodies to help load up that truck. If we do not load up the
truck, we risk getting cited for obstruction and that could be several
hundred dollars at this point considering the amount of stuffs.
I've arranged with J.C. & Ricky to bring their box truck to Omni in a
couple hours so we can do a dump run. They will have to be remunerated. I
don't know what it will be but it should be under $600 total. John had
scheduled with Waste Management for bulky pickup (which was also going to
be expensive due to the amount and type of stuff) but they flaked for 2
days, then said they can't take ceiling tiles, or broken-up furniture, or
actually pretty much anything we have out there, so it will have to be
hauled. Other options like a dumpster was explored but this was really
expensive and we would not get it for days (at least $750 + cost of parking
obstruction permit from city = over ~$1000). I don't anticipate the cost of
hauling exceeding $600 but this will have to be assessed by Ricky, JC et al
with the truck.
Note the cost of disposal will mostly be on john but partly on OOC.
That's because John doesn't think he should have to pay for e.g. the
disposal of the ceiling tiles from the bookstore-cafe (that collective
should pay for that), or actually, the extra 3 big wardrobes removed from
CCL/Sudo room, or of our garbage that we did not put out on Tuesday, etc.
The exact portion we are responsible for needs to be negotiated a bit with
John (I don't think this will not be a big deal), but re: the wardrobes for
example, as John expressed, since Sudo took 3 of them and we are keeping
one in the ballroom (4 total), we are also responsible for the other 3 we
don't need - it was a take them all or take none sort of deal (yar can
perhaps speak better to this). So who is responsible for what on our side
will need to be sorted out, I figure our responsibility is about 30%. We
had probably 7-8 bags of garbage and many, many bags of ceiling tiles, the
wardrobes were big and heavy, etc.
David
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