sudo-discuss March 2013

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Skymall Workshop / Skillshare: Basic Concrete Slab *Sat March 16*, 10am onward

by Vicky Knox

Hey all! My friend Bobby will be putting on the below workshop. He is an amazing builder and metalworker who I've been sneakily trying to suck into the vortex that is Sudo Room. If anyone is interested in going to this workshop that he is putting on, will you envangelize him please? This event is sure to be fun--he has a fascinating mind and brews awesome beer. If you're into beer, make sure to ask him to show you the huge vats he welded, as well as the taps he has set up. V From: Robert Tomkiewicz <tomkiewicz.b(a)gmail.com> Subject: Skymall Workshop / Skillshare: Basic Concrete Slab *Sat March 16*, 10am onward Hi all, I am in the process of modernizing the laundry facilites at the old homestead and the first step is pouring a little slab outdoors to hold the washer and dryer off the ground and function as a foundation for the shed which will hold them. Together, we'll (re)discover the basics of pouring a concrete slab. We'll be mixing by hand in wheelbarrows, which is just fine for a slab of this scale, unless I get a line on a mixer before the end of the week. I will have the forms built and (probably) the rebar laid before Saturday, but they'll be there for you to take a look at so you can see how they're constructed before we begin. Beer and snackage provided. Space is limited to the amount of people that will actually be useful, which in fact is quite a few. Still, if you could RSVP with any specific dietary preferences that would be super sweet. If we're super fast we might even get to do some plumbing. Got to get that natural gas hookup to the dryer, and hot water pipe in place for the washing machine. Bobby

13 years, 1 month

Re: [sudo-discuss] Dystopia Watch: Surveillance drones coming to a cafe near you.

by rachel lyra hospodar

(Private response from dan included below) I am not suggesting here that the goal is to neutralize the voice, but to obfuscate its meaning, to nearby microphones. If there are many sounds fitting the pattern of the user's voice, then perhaps the technology mr. Howell mentions would have a harder time 'hearing' the conversation's actual content in a useful way? Our brains are excellent at pattern recognition & targeted focus, and I guess I am positing here that the gap between their ability to do this, and the software's, is big enough to use. I'm less concerned about establishing completely secure encrypted special-use channels (eg redphone), but more am idly thinking about ways to increase security for day-to-day interactions (redCafe???) ...like doing harm reduction. My experience with activism in our modern surveillance state is that, while a small group can be trained to be truly information secure, this is only really possible for specific highly covert projects, and it generates behavior anomalous enough to be its own red flag. Generally speaking you have to interact with people in their terms, in public or 'normal' ways, to reach them. The conversations I expect people will be crucified for are not the truly secret ones. Running a device like this in cafes would be a hilarious way to do outreach about Big Brother. Many people have no idea of the extent of what is already possible. R. On Mar 5, 2013 11:47 AM, "Daniel Finlay" <namelessdan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > To truly neutralize a sound the inverted copy of the sound needs to be perfectly lined up with the original sound in relation to the target microphone. (It's impractical for general use. Besides, if it worked the way you're imagining, we wouldn't be able to hear each other) > > > On Mar 5, 2013, at 11:34 AM, rachel lyra hospodar <rachelyra(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> What if everyone carried a device that captured what they were saying and replayed it, layered along with other recordings of their own voice? >> >> Or we could hold all of our meetings without devices, in the fields and mountains, with birdsong our walls and the sky as our roof. >> >> On Mar 5, 2013 11:22 AM, "Matthew D. Howell" <matthewdhowell(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> @Rachel The state of the technology for recognizing and separating >>> patterns in audio is advanced enough to overcome that sort of thing. >>> Every person's voice has a distinct signature that can be recognized. >>> I would venture a guess that some kind of encrypted digital signal >>> transmission would be the best way to keep any sonic communication >>> private in the most extreme of situations. (most interested party with >>> the best technology at their disposal) >>> – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – >8 >>> /V\ /-\ + + |–| ø \/\/ ∂ £ £ >>> ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– >>> Matthew D. Howell >>> misterinterrupt, tHe M4d swiTcH, the RuinMechanic >>> cell: (617) 755-1481 >>> ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:16 AM, rachel lyra hospodar >>> <rachelyra(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> > Wouldn't it need to be non-commercially available music, so they couldn't >>> > just find the audio data of the track, invert its wave, and cancel it out of >>> > the recording? >>> > >>> > CACOPHONY FOR THE REVOLUTION! >>> > >>> > mediumreality.com >>> > >>> > On Mar 5, 2013 10:23 AM, "Steve Berl" <steveberl(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> You could carry a boombox around playing loud music where ever you go. >>> >> Perhaps this would be the end of earbuds. :-) >>> >> >>> >> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Anthony Di Franco < di.franco(a)gmail.com> >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> People have rendered surveillance cameras useless with very bright IR >>> >>> LEDs in their fields of view. >>> >>> Could something similar be done for sound recording devices? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mar 5, 2013 6:17 AM, "Anon195714" <anon195714(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Yo's- >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Something I forgot to add re. DARPA's desire for universal recording of >>> >>>> face-to-face conversations. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> What's the ideal device for doing all that recording? >>> >>>> >>> >>>> How'bout something you wear? How'bout something that "everyone" wears?, >>> >>>> or even a significant fraction of "everyone"? >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Like maybe Google Glasses. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Always on, camera and mic always "connected" to "the cloud." Orwell's >>> >>>> telescreen gone mobile. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Everyone who wears them will become, in effect, _unpaid surveillance >>> >>>> drones_ watching their family and friends, not from up in the sky, but >>> >>>> from up close where every word can be heard. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Some will say "oh, there's no stopping technology." People said that >>> >>>> about the atomic bomb and the hydrogen bomb. But public outcry led >>> >>>> first to treaties and then to progressive degrees of nuclear >>> >>>> disarmament. We haven't used that technology since it was first used in >>> >>>> WW2. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> We can stop pernicious tech if we choose. We can refuse, we can >>> >>>> withdraw consent, we do not have to press the Buy button. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Technology should liberate and empower people. "Conveniences with a few >>> >>>> strings attached" are not liberation, they're puppet-strings. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> It's all about control: technology that you can control, vs. technology >>> >>>> that can control you. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> -G. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> ===== >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On 13-03-05-Tue 1:50 AM, Anon195714 wrote: >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > Yo's- >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > This just in: >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > "DARPA wants to make [voice recognition/transcription] systems so >>> >>>> > accurate, you’ll be able to easily record, transcribe and recall all >>> >>>> > the >>> >>>> > conversations you ever have. ... Imagine living in a world where every >>> >>>> > errant utterance you make is preserved forever. ... DARPA [awarded >>> >>>> > U.Texas comp sci researcher Matt Lease]... $300,000... over two years >>> >>>> > to >>> >>>> > study the new project, called “Blending Crowdsourcing with Automation >>> >>>> > for Fast, Cheap, and Accurate Analysis of Spontaneous Speech.”" >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > "The idea is that business meetings or even conversations with your >>> >>>> > friends and family could be stored in archives and easily searched. >>> >>>> > The >>> >>>> > stored recordings could be held in servers, owned either by >>> >>>> > individuals >>> >>>> > or their employers. ... The answer, Lease says, is in widespread use >>> >>>> > of >>> >>>> > recording technologies like smartphones, cameras and audio >>> >>>> > recorders... >>> >>>> > [A] memorandum from the Congressional Research Service described [an >>> >>>> > earlier DARPA project of this type known as] EARS, as focusing on >>> >>>> > speech >>> >>>> > picked up from broadcasts and telephone conversations, “as well as >>> >>>> > extract clues about the identity of speakers” for “the military, >>> >>>> > intelligence and law enforcement communities.”" >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2013/03/darpa-speech/ (Yes, "real >>> >>>> > geeks >>> >>>> > don't read Wired," but nonetheless its news pages are useful for >>> >>>> > keeping >>> >>>> > a finger on the pulse of Big Brother and his corporate Brethren.) >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > In short: >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > DARPA is researching the means by which every conversation you have, >>> >>>> > in-person, whether at work or with family or friends, gets picked up >>> >>>> > by >>> >>>> > the mic in your smartphone or other portable device, and stored on a >>> >>>> > server, where DARPA's algorithms and human editors turn all of it into >>> >>>> > fast-searchable text, that could be used by your employer, the >>> >>>> > military, >>> >>>> > law enforcement, and intel agencies. Presumably the credit bureaus, >>> >>>> > insurance companies, and financial institutions will want "in" on the >>> >>>> > data as well. >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > Now connect that with this, about cell-site tracking and call detail >>> >>>> > records: >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > "The government maintained [that] Americans have no expectation of >>> >>>> > privacy of such cell-site records [call detail records or CDR] because >>> >>>> > they are in the possession of a third party — the mobile phone >>> >>>> > companies." >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/03/gps-drug-dealer-retrial/ >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > The key point is that the gov's current position is that data stored >>> >>>> > on >>> >>>> > a third party's servers have "no expectation of privacy." What begins >>> >>>> > with CDR will eventually include voicemail messages stored on the >>> >>>> > mobile >>> >>>> > phone companies' servers, and then eventually all of your live >>> >>>> > in-person >>> >>>> > conversations that are stored "in the cloud." >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > "Anything you say can and will be used against you..." Mark my words. >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > Meanwhile people keep using gmail and Google Voice, and smartphones >>> >>>> > from >>> >>>> > which they can't remove the batteries. Because nothing is more >>> >>>> > important >>> >>>> > than "convenience," right? >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > As a character in a sci-fi piece I wrote in the mid-1980s said, "Why >>> >>>> > put >>> >>>> > a person in prison, when you can put prison in the person instead?" >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > -G. >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>> >>>> > sudo-discuss mailing list >>> >>>> > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>> >>>> > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>> >>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>> >>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>> >>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>> >>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> -steve >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> sudo-discuss mailing list >>> >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>> >> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>> >> >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > sudo-discuss mailing list >>> > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>> > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > >

13 years, 1 month

sudoroom door! help!

by hol＠gaskill.com

Can someone please PM me the link to open the sudoroom door? i'm inside the building, just need to get inside the room. Thanks! Hol (resending under correct subject line) _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss

13 years, 1 month

Microcontroller hacking tomorrow night?

by hol＠gaskill.com

Anybody want to do some microcontroller tinkering tomorrow night? Would like to figure out how to interface arduinoRPi. Also going to continue work on using Processing http://processing.org/exhibition/ to communicate with microcontrollers. Lots of power when you combine a few of these basic tools... Cheers, Hol

13 years, 1 month

there's a membership page on sudoroom.org

by Tommy York

We just collaboratively designed it in Sudoroom (w00t kopimism), much thanks to Matt for designing the Google doc form. Comments appreciated. ----------------- Thomas Riley York (杨德民) 510.926.0510 http://www.linkedin.com/in/tommyyork

13 years, 1 month

Re: [sudo-discuss] sudo-discuss Digest, Vol 5, Issue 4

by Cyrus Farivar

FWIW, here's the LA Times: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-lockpick-20130302,0,454000.story -C -- Cyrus Farivar "suh-ROOS FAR-ih-var" Journalist and radio producer | cyrusfarivar.com (http://cyrusfarivar.com) Author, "The Internet of Elsewhere" | internetofelsewhere.com (http://internetofelsewhere.com) US: +1 510 394 5485 (m) | Twitter/Skype: cfarivar "Being a good writer is 3% talent, 97% not being distracted by the Internet." cfarivar(a)cfarivar.org (mailto:cfarivar@cfarivar.org) On Saturday, March 2, 2013 at 3:22 PM, sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org wrote: > Send sudo-discuss mailing list submissions to > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org) > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > sudo-discuss-request(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss-request@lists.sudoroom.org) > > You can reach the person managing the list at > sudo-discuss-owner(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss-owner@lists.sudoroom.org) > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of sudo-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: It's Unconscionable (Anca Mosoiu) > 2. Re: It's Unconscionable (rusty lindgren) > 3. thunderbolt video cards (rusty lindgren) > 4. Re: Friday Filosophy: Software as Speech (Steve Berl) > 5. Re: Friday Filosophy: Software as Speech (Eddan) > 6. Yelp Locksmiths Greatest Hits Vol. 1 (rusty lindgren) > 7. Re: It's Unconscionable (Daniel Finlay) > 8. Re: Yelp Locksmiths Greatest Hits Vol. 1 (Andrew) > 9. Re: It's Unconscionable (Eddan) > 10. Re: It's Unconscionable (rusty lindgren) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 23:27:54 -0800 > From: Anca Mosoiu <anca(a)techliminal.com (mailto:anca@techliminal.com)> > To: Michael Scroggins <michaeljscroggins(a)gmail.com (mailto:michaeljscroggins@gmail.com)> > Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org (mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org)>, eddan(a)eddan.com (mailto:eddan@eddan.com) > Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] It's Unconscionable > Message-ID: > <CALDsrHjzKjQAwAs-X5QMP8e+e0_w+ejxFaZJec_P1tS9a_invQ(a)mail.gmail.com (mailto:CALDsrHjzKjQAwAs-X5QMP8e+e0_w+ejxFaZJec_P1tS9a_invQ@mail.gmail.com)> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Michael Scroggins < > michaeljscroggins(a)gmail.com (mailto:michaeljscroggins@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > > > The sentence implicitly draws a difference of kind between the lock > > picking class and the other Workshop Weekend classes. Doing so invites the > > question: What is the difference that makes broadcasting this workshop (in > > the way it was) regrettable? In an environment where the mayor, the chief > > of police and the media have all given the same answer - the class breeds > > criminals - allowing that question is regrettable. > > > > > It's regrettable because it gave some easy pickings for the people who want > to portray Oakland, and the current administration, in a certain way. Many > of the people who are upset about the workshop aren't upset about > lockpicking, they're upset that Jean Quan appears to encourage crime in her > newsletter. > > It's regrettable because it sucked up airwaves and mental effort that might > have been better spent. > > Drafting a reasoned and reasonable response lowers the blood pressure of > the people who are up in arms just because they aren't informed. Some of > them will come around, especially if they understand the actual intent of > the class. > > Eddan, I'd like to participate in writing a statement. I was really taken > aback when I read some of the emails and talked to some of the people who > were actually upset. > > The media storm will blow over with the next foot-in-mouth opportunity from > a local politician, but we have a great opportunity to reach out while the > world is looking. > > Anca. > > > -- > -=-=-=- > Anca Mosoiu | Tech Liminal > anca(a)techliminal.com (mailto:anca@techliminal.com) > M: (510) 220-6660 > http://techliminal.com | T: @techliminal | F: facebook.com/techliminal (http://facebook.com/techliminal) >

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Yelp Locksmiths Greatest Hits Vol. 1

by rusty lindgren

1. *"These mother fuckers should burn in hell. *Quit scamming people. You'd make more money actually being nice honest and helping more people that like your business instead of charging a shit load for 1 customer and losing 27490291. 2. "...The guy shows up in literally 10 minutes, pops open the door in about 30 seconds and then charges me $100 for the "labor" because opening a door is a $100 charge. WTF... Such bullshit. *Two stars for him being super speedy though.*" 3. *"Since my cat was inside crying and needing to be fed*- I told him I would pay $200 for him to unlock it or I was going to call someone else. He ended up drilling the lock out and then wanting to charge another $190 to replace it. *Preying on desperate people in bad situations.*" 4. "When he got here he said it would be 29 dollars service fee and 100 to pick the lock, he spent exactly 30 seconds trying to pick the lock, said it was unpickable and went to his car to get a drill and another lock to replace it. Took him may be 15 minutes to drill and replace the lock then he handed me a bill for 258 dollars. I said how could something that jtook under 30 minutes with very little effort cost so much. *He didn't care, just took my credit card and charged it."* 5. IF I COULD GIVE THEM NEGATIVE STARS I WOULD NOT HESITATE! *This is my first review and I actually made a yelp account just to save anyone from falling into their scam* they call a business. 6. They call themselves locksmiths, but that is a joke. They completely busted our font door lock (to the point that the handle was hanging loosely off the door and no long worked to keep the door closed), then proceeded to charge (and demand!) $150 for the "service." *I could have gotten in a lot quicker and cheaper by borrowing a neighbor's hammer!* -Rusty

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thunderbolt video cards

by rusty lindgren

Anyone done this on mac or linux(link below)? Would be cool to just send rendering jobs over thunderbolt... would be even cooler if I could build the pci-board set up myself, rather than spend a lot on this set-up. http://9to5mac.com/2012/12/11/mlogics-mlink-thunderbolt-expansion-chassis-n… -Rusty **

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Art Murmur This Evening!

by Marina Kukso

Hi everyone, Just a reminder that we'll be having art murmur this evening at sudo room. Coyote counter collective will be there from 7-10pm repping art, designs, and photos from a dozen different artists -including laser etched stuff! mediumreality.com We may also have a visit from Masahiro and his brain interface machine once again! As Jenny mentioned, we have been asked by George and Laurie to close up shop by 11PM, so join us early for art, socialization, and hacking! - Marina

13 years, 1 month

get some sudo stuff this weekend at OMCA white elephant sale?

by Matthew Senate

http://sudoroom.org/ai1ec_event/omca-white-elephant-sale/?instance_id=51404 // Matt

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