sudo-discuss April 2013

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Re: [sudo-discuss] privacy and violations; nym rights and other.

by Yardena Cohen

I would vote for the archives to remain public, but behind a robots.txt. I actually asked for one way back on the other server, but I understand that our sysadmins have been working hard and have a lot to do already. Sudo sysadmins, can we have a robots.txt? And thanks for all your hard work!

12 years, 10 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] Michael Orange - film events - Battle for Brooklyn - any sudo members interested in an intro?

by Yardena Cohen

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Anon195714 <anon195714(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Right, and when you slip LSD into the fruit punch at a party and don't tell > anyone, do you justify that by saying you're trying to encourage > enlightenment? Who needs informed consent anyway, right? Hey, who needs > consent of any kind? > > Sorry yo, that don't go. It's NON CONSENSUAL, like seducing someone and > failing to disclose to them that you have STDs. It's a trust-break in a big > way. http://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-discuss/2013-January/000000.html (See what I did there?)

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Michael Orange - film events - Battle for Brooklyn - any sudo members interested in an intro?

by Romy Ilano

Hey here is one of the film events that Michael Orange from top 10 social is presenting. https://www.facebook.com/events/563556023675662/?notif_t=plan_user_invited Michael's also working with the Oakland Library as well,so I'll mention the history wki people from sudoroom are there! this probably isn't necessary for anyone here... but in case one or two people gets the temptation: -- Michael Orange is an all around good guy--please treat him well, minimize over the top business plans, "industry type behavior", and approach him as you would a family member. If we talk to him the wrong way it will be a smear on my reputation and his opinion matters a lot to me. =D

12 years, 10 months

[law thread] privacy, mobile apps, innovation

by Romy Ilano

I'm starting a law-related thread, there are a lot of smart law people here. I'm a mobile app developer + a lot of people I know were at this workshop today. http://techpresident.com/news/23721/california-attorney-general-kamala-harr… California Attorney General Kamala Harris Talks Mobile Innovation, Privacy, and the Law BY SARAH LAI STIRLAND <http://techpresident.com/blog/76848> | Wednesday, April 10 2013 California Attorney General Kamala Harris on Wednesday urged mobile software developers to explain to users how their products work as clearly as possible so that there are no nasty surprises -- both on the part of the end users, and the developers who may hear from her office for privacy violations. "Let’s not stop the innovation. I don’t want to shut it down," she told a roomful of developers and businesspeople at the startup co-working office space Runway Workspace in the South of Market area of San Francisco. "But what we do have to do is to give the user information, and let the user, not anyone else, make the choice about the tradeoff." Harris spoke at an event organized by her own office, the University of California Hastings (her alma mater) and the Association for Competitive Technology, an association in Washington, D.C. that represents individual software developers who often can't afford to hire their own in-house privacy counsel. Her remarks come as the Obama administration itself is struggling to work with all kinds of stakeholders on how to best protect consumers in a world where their devices are always on, and using the attributes of personal information and location to build their businesses. Harris' office published a 20 page-plus booklet of checklists and recommendations for app developers<http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/pdfs/privacy/privacy_on_the_go.pdf>to be mindful of when creating their products this January. The Electronic Frontier Foundation<https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/01/california-attorney-general-releases-…>, a digital rights group, praised the recommendations, but several advertising associations, including the American Association of Advertising agencies, called them "unworkable." Her office established a special privacy enforcement and protection unit last July, staffed with some high-powered lawyers, such as Travis LeBlanc, formerly a lawyer at the white-shoe law firms of Williams & Connelly in Washington, D.C., and Keker & Van Nest in San Francisco. How state attorneys general approach privacy in the digital world is of great interest to practitioners in political technology. San Francisco-based Organizer, for example, enables campaigns to track their field canvassers with GPSes on their mobile phones as they knock on doors and updates information in its voter database in real-time as volunteers collect new data. As users do more and more from their phones, mobile advertising has gained increasing attention from political campaigns. And one of the biggest innovations to come from the Obama campaign in 2012 was software that avoided potential Federal Election Commission roadblocks against collecting mobile donations by allowing donors to authorize, by text message or otherwise, a gift from their credit card account already on file. The terms of service governing these and many other applications are breaking new legal ground, and consumers are just beginning to understand how their data is shared, used, bought and sold — in politics and otherwise. Harris is an apt character to follow in the privacy debate. She may be the only attorney general in the country to have made privacy policies a campaign issue when, in 2010, she accused her then-Democratic rival Chris Kelly, Facebook's former chief privacy officer, of giving Facebook's users' information away, a charge that Kelly's campaign denied. "Some people might not mind giving up their contact list to get that mobile app, because they only have four people in it, and they don’t like them anyway," Harris joked at the event. "Me, not so much. I don’t want to give up my contact list. Let the user figure out what the benefit is before they give it up." Harris urged developers to tell their users as much as possible about how they use their information, and to give them 'tools' to let them make their choices. The Association for Competitive Technology is working on such tools, like a privacy dashboard <http://www.bitly.com/pridash> that would tell app users, through icons, what information is being collected. "I am a career prosecutor. I know the great power that we have," Harris told the audience. "I learned at a very young age in my career that with a swipe of my pen, I could charge someone with a misdemeanor, the lowest level of crime possible, and by virtue of doing that, that person would have to pick out of their pockets to hire a lawyer. They may be arrested, they may spend a couple of hours or days in jail, they’ll be embarrassed in the context of their family and community, probably have to miss time from work for court appearances – all because I charged him with a crime. It’s an incredible amount of power that we have, and we’re well aware of that." Some developers at the meeting Wednesday morning said that they weren't aware of all of the legal requirements they had to fulfill when building their apps, and some even suggested that Google wouldn't have been possible as a company had all these rules on privacy been in place at its founding, a notion that LeBlanc contested during a later panel. Jerome Starch, a developer who attended a NASA hackathon in March and who is developing an app with information from NASA to get kids interested in science, stood up after Harris left, and said her words "terrified" him. Morgan Reed, ACT's executive director, re-assured him, saying that NASA uses Privo, a service that ensures app compliance with the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act. <http://www.provo.com/> Jonathan Nelson, another entrepreneur who spoke that morning, drew cheers when he said, "What I really want is privacy as a service for $5 a month."

12 years, 10 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] SUDOERS NEEDED FOR/ON OAKLAND NIGHTS LIVE!

by Vicky Knox

PS: I will be on the show to discuss Oakland Wiki AND SUDO ROOM (and hackerspaces?)!! I feel really overwhelmed and crazy that they're having me talk about Sudo Room/hackerspaces. How can I as one person talk about these things?! Well, I'm going to have to, so HELP! My pre-show research strategy is thus: study the Internet (hackerspaces dot org), highlight Sudo Room events (this is my sneaky advertisement brain thinking), talk about resources available to the public in the space. Let me know if there is anything that you think is crazy and fascinating about Sudo Room and/or the hackerspaces in general that I should mention!! 2013/4/10 Vicky Knox <vknoxsironi(a)gmail.com> > oOmg! Would you like to be the Sudoer who makes the pitch to this Friday's > Oakland Nights Live crowd requesting their beloved donation? How about > helping Vicky, one of this month's Oakland Nights Live guests, think of > things to say about Sudo Room during the show? Or would you be interested > in potentially showing off 3D-printed goodies during intermission? > > Please msg me!! <3 >

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SUDOERS NEEDED FOR/ON OAKLAND NIGHTS LIVE!

by Vicky Knox

oOmg! Would you like to be the Sudoer who makes the pitch to this Friday's Oakland Nights Live crowd requesting their beloved donation? How about helping Vicky, one of this month's Oakland Nights Live guests, think of things to say about Sudo Room during the show? Or would you be interested in potentially showing off 3D-printed goodies during intermission? Please msg me!! <3

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Re: [sudo-discuss] wiki: sudoroom food hacking

by Aaronco Thirtysix

Oh, I was the one who donated the admittedly unlabeled lidded-stockpot to NB, specifically to brew kombucha there. For the one person who already responded with their "invitation" offlist, I neither prefer to come over to SR to join the groups' mate/kombucha/whatever-other-foodhacking-else brewing efforts there (whether for-profit or entirely non-profit), nor do I wish to pay a special SR visit in-person to pickup the lidded-stockpot. Much better for the SR person(s) to bring the item back to NB. Reason of personal preference, but thanks for your "invite" :-) (If lidded-stockpot not returned to NB PDQ, then fully able to and willing to revert to my own DIY brewing efforts completely separate from SR's group efforts +AND+ from NB, invitation or not, so no great loss to me either way!) TY again, -A *Romy Ilano* romy at snowyla.com *Tue Apr 9 12:27:22 PDT 201* ------------------------------ https://sudoroom.org/wiki/page/Projects/food I created a new sudoroom Food hacking wiki page I'm including starting points such as Max's Club Mate Idea I have a sodastream that can create carbonated water and I'm all for creating non-branded, non wasteful, healthier versions of soda and "energy drinks"... we can make soda the old fashioned way and even better, without high fructose corn syrup and "energy creating" petrochemicals...

12 years, 10 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] wiki: sudoroom food hacking

by Aaronco Thirtysix

*Romy Ilano* romy at snowyla.com <sudo-discuss%40lists.sudoroom.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5Bsudo-discuss%5D%20wiki%3A%20sudoroom%20food%20hacking&In-Reply-To=%3CCAFqWQB8D93dsnSwXMSRaJCT0a9kF4tuJFf19nD5Oh%3DeF_izY_Q%40mail.gmail.com%3E> *Tue Apr 9 12:27:22 PDT 201* ------------------------------ https://sudoroom.org/wiki/page/Projects/food I created a new sudoroom Food hacking wiki page I'm including starting points such as Max's Club Mate Idea I have a sodastream that can create carbonated water and I'm all for creating non-branded, non wasteful, healthier versions of soda and "energy drinks"... we can make soda the old fashioned way and even better, without high fructose corn syrup and "energy creating" petrochemicals...

12 years, 10 months

Community Democracy Project Wiki

by Troy Massey

Howdy all, Just posted a wiki that is a copy of our main flyer with a link to our website. ( Thank you Matt Senate :) Please take a look and give feedback. If you feel inclined to rewire a *real *democracy away from our false republican representative government...*GET INVOLVED !!!* See you on the flipside :) " You are the source of Freedom. The price of Freedom is awreness and action" Sincerely, Troy Massey SUDO Librarian 510.383.6117

12 years, 10 months

Wednesday potluck

by Raymond Lai

Hello Fellow Sudoers! Sounds like I missed some meal last Wednesday. :) >From the thread it sounds like folks might be more interested in pot lucks for Wednesday night meetings. I have no problem with that and would like to offer some fresh strawberry ice coconut cream (yes, vegan!) for tonight. Julio and I made this just sweet enough deliciousness to celebrate the return of longer days & warm weather. Sudo kitchen also has some raw ingredients which i will detail in another post a little later (this cafe has no wifi (how uncivilized)) so i am sipping a spotty connection from who knows where. Hack ur kitchens! Cheers, Ray

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