sudo-discuss June 2013

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by Marina Kukso

let's all check out the calendar and ensure that our recurring events are up to date: http://sudoroom.org/calendar/ if you are the host of a regular event, please ensure that the calendar entry for your event is up to date. if not, please edit and/or remove it. it's very sad when people come to events where the organizer is not present. people who have this experience often don't return to the space. we've had new people come for events listed on the calendar where the organizer didn't show up multiple times this week (at least while i was here), and it made me sad to see them sad and it made me sad to have to say i didn't know why there was no one facilitating the event. additionally, if you have to cancel or can't make it to an event, please email the list (it's ok if it's last minute!), and we can let any participants know that the event was cancelled at the last minute. even this is better than having no one show up with no explanation. you hold in your hands the hearts of the gentle participants of your events. be respectful of them! :D - marina ps - if you need to edit/delete an event you host but don't know how or don't have access to the wordpress site, please let me know and i will be happy to help you.

10 years, 10 months

Fwd: fiscal sponsorship & school factory

by Marina Kukso

hi everyone, james from the school factory has offered to have a skype call with us to talk more about fiscal sponsorship. if you'd be interested in being on a call with him, please message me offlist so that we can schedule something that works for everyone. - marina ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: James Carlson <j(a)bucketworks.org> Date: Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 9:32 AM Subject: Re: fiscal sponsorship status for lolspace? To: Praveen Sinha <dmhomee(a)gmail.com> Cc: Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com>, James Carlson <j(a)bucketworks.org>, Jen-Mei Wu <veganjenny(a)gmail.com> Marina, we're still helping new spaces. Does Sudoroom need fiscal sponsorship? I'm happy to connect on this. Want to grab a slice of time to connect using http://doodle.com/jamescarlson and we can talk through the deets? Cheerfully, James Carlson 414-215-0215 On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:58 AM, Praveen Sinha <dmhomee(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Yo Marina, > > We are fiscally sponsored by school factory (in fact I had to miss a > meeting with them tonight). In so far as taking on new people, I hope they > are! I have cc'ed the amazing James Carlson who has been working with us > and I can't say enough good things about. He should be able to let you > know. > > James: Marina is one of the core organizers of Sudoroom, a space in > downtown oakland. We work with them a lot! > > Talk to you guys soon! > > > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> hey both, >> >> we're having a discussion about fiscal sponsorship/nonprofit status at >> sudo right now and we realized that we weren't sure about lol's current >> status. are you guys still fiscally sponsored by school factory? (our >> people had some confusion about whether school factory was still taking on >> new people). >> >> - marina >> > >

10 years, 10 months

computer inventory info + inventory/install day

by Marina Kukso

hi everyone, we have so many computers, but also not enough workstations (most notably, the computer that was part of the 3D printing station has been fried :C). i'm afraid that i'm ignorant of which computers in the closet and around the space are functional (a few are labeled, but most of them aren't). hilary and i had the pleasure of finding a working computer this weekend, and we are interested in finding more. if any of you know which computers are functional and which aren't, we would love to do an inventory with you. if no one quite has a handle on this info, would folks be interested in doing an inventory day? inventory + install day part 2? - marina ps - if you'd like to participate in an inventory + install day, please let us know what date(s)/time(s) would be good for you.

10 years, 10 months

Meeting Tomorrow: Please add to the agenda and pay dues!

by Jenny Ryan

Sudoers, Please add to tomorrow's agenda here: https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudoroommeeting Also a reminder that we will be paying July rent by the end of this week, so please bring a check or cash to the meeting, or donate online via the WePay! Summer is an especially tough time for hackerspace sustainability, so anything extra you can pitch in is super appreciated. Cheers, Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

10 years, 10 months

Two non-working Apple accessories

by Cyrus Farivar

I have a no-longer-working Airport Express and an Apple Bluetooth keyboard (with battery corrosion) if anyone wants them to try to fix/spare parts. (Or if someone wants to show me how to fix them!) Ping me off-list. -C -- Cyrus Farivar "suh-ROOS FAR-ih-var" Journalist and radio producer | cyrusfarivar.com (http://cyrusfarivar.com) Author, "The Internet of Elsewhere" | internetofelsewhere.com (http://internetofelsewhere.com) US: +1 510 394 5485 (m) | Twitter/Skype: cfarivar "Being a good writer is 3% talent, 97% not being distracted by the Internet." cfarivar(a)cfarivar.org (mailto:cfarivar@cfarivar.org)

10 years, 10 months

Communication preference worksheet for conflict resolution

by mark burdett

Folks from AORTA - http://aortacollective.org - gave a great talk on conflict resolution at Allied Media Conference this past weekend. They sent along the template for their Conflict Resolution Profile Worksheet which could be useful for all kinds of organizations/projects dealing w/ conflict. The idea is that everyone fills out a form listing their communication preferences before engaging in conflict resolution, so everyone has an idea of what works and what doesn't work for each person. If communication preferences clash, hopefully folks can find a way to compromise - adjusting their communication in a way that doesn't escalate things (but if there's a big divide, that's a sign that mediation may be helpful). --mark B.

10 years, 10 months

The Web We Lost — The Web We Make — Medium

by Romy Ilano

https://medium.com/the-web-we-make/1afe8b898455 The Web We Lost Anil Dash in The Web We Make 6 min read The tech industry and its press have treated the rise of billion-scale social networks and ubiquitous smartphone apps as an unadulterated win for regular people, a triumph of usability and empowerment. They seldom talk about what we've lost along the way in this transition, and I find that younger folks may not even know how the web used to be. So here's a few glimpses of a web that's mostly faded away: Five years ago, most social photos were uploaded to Flickr, where they could be tagged by humans or even by apps and services, using machine tags. Images were easily discoverable on the public web using simple RSS feeds. And the photos people uploaded could easily be licensed under permissive licenses like those provided by Creative Commons, allowing remixing and reuse in all manner of creative ways by artists, businesses, and individuals. A decade ago, Technorati let you search most of the social web in real-time (though the search tended to be awful slow in presenting results), with tags that worked as hashtags do on Twitter today. You could find the sites that had linked to your content with a simple search, and find out who was talking about a topic regardless of what tools or platforms they were using to publish their thoughts. At the time, this was so exciting that when Technorati failed to keep up with the growth of the blogosphere, people were so disappointed that even the usually-circumspect Jason Kottke flamed the site for letting him down. At the first blush of its early success, though, Technorati elicited effusive praise from the likes of John Gruber: [Y]ou could, in theory, write software to examine the source code of a few hundred thousand weblogs, and create a database of the links between these weblogs. If your software was clever enough, it could refresh its information every few hours, adding new links to the database nearly in real time. This is, in fact, exactly what Dave Sifry has created with his amazing Technorati. At this writing, Technorati is watching over 375,000 weblogs, and has tracked over 38 million links. If you haven’t played with Technorati, you’re missing out. Ten years ago, you could allow people to post links on your site, or to show a list of links which were driving inbound traffic to your site. Because Google hadn't yet broadly introduced AdWords and AdSense, links weren't about generating revenue, they were just a tool for expression or editorializing. The web was an interesting and different place before links got monetized, but by 2007 it was clear that Google had changed the web forever, and for the worse, by corrupting links. In 2003, if you introduced a single-sign-in service that was run by a company, even if you documented the protocol and encouraged others to clone the service, you'd be described as introducing a tracking system worthy of the PATRIOT act. There was such distrust of consistent authentication services that even Microsoft had to give up on their attempts to create such a sign-in. Though their user experience was not as simple as today's ubiquitous ability to sign in with Facebook or Twitter, the TypeKey service introduced then had much more restrictive terms of service about sharing data. And almost every system which provided identity to users allowed for pseudonyms, respecting the need that people have to not always use their legal names. In the early part of this century, if you made a service that let users create or share content, the expectation was that they could easily download a full-fidelity copy of their data, or import that data into other competitive services, with no restrictions. Vendors spent years working on interoperability around data exchange purely for the benefit of their users, despite theoretically lowering the barrier to entry for competitors. In the early days of the social web, there was a broad expectation that regular people might own their own identities by having their own websites, instead of being dependent on a few big sites to host their online identity. In this vision, you would own your own domain name and have complete control over its contents, rather than having a handle tacked on to the end of a huge company's site. This was a sensible reaction to the realization that big sites rise and fall in popularity, but that regular people need an identity that persists longer than those sites do. Five years ago, if you wanted to show content from one site or app on your own site or app, you could use a simple, documented format to do so, without requiring a business-development deal or contractual agreement between the sites. Thus, user experiences weren't subject to the vagaries of the political battles between different companies, but instead were consistently based on the extensible architecture of the web itself. A dozen years ago, when people wanted to support publishing tools that epitomized all of these traits, they'd crowd-fund the costs of the servers and technology needed to support them, even though things cost a lot more in that era before cloud computing and cheap bandwidth. Their peers in the technology world, though ostensibly competitors, would even contribute to those efforts. This isn't our web today. We've lost key features that we used to rely on, and worse, we've abandoned core values that used to be fundamental to the web world. To the credit of today's social networks, they've brought in hundreds of millions of new participants to these networks, and they've certainly made a small number of people rich. But they haven't shown the web itself the respect and care it deserves, as a medium which has enabled them to succeed. And they've now narrowed the possibilites of the web for an entire generation of users who don't realize how much more innovative and meaningful their experience could be. BACK TO THE FUTURE When you see interesting data mash-ups today, they are often still using Flickr photos because Instagram's meager metadata sucks, and the app is only reluctantly on the web at all. We get excuses about why we can't search for old tweets or our own relevant Facebook content, though we got more comprehensive results from a Technorati search that was cobbled together on the feeble software platforms of its era. We get bullshit turf battles like Tumblr not being able to find your Twitter friends or Facebook not letting Instagram photos show up on Twitter because of giant companies pursuing their agendas instead of collaborating in a way that would serve users. And we get a generation of entrepreneurs encouraged to make more narrow-minded, web-hostile products like these because it continues to make a small number of wealthy people even more wealthy, instead of letting lots of people build innovative new opportunities for themselves on top of the web itself. We'll fix these things; I don't worry about that. The technology industry, like all industries, follows cycles, and the pendulum is swinging back to the broad, empowering philosophies that underpinned the early social web. But we're going to face a big challenge with re-educating a billion people about what the web means, akin to the years we spent as everyone moved off of AOL a decade ago, teaching them that there was so much more to the experience of the Internet than what they know. This isn't some standard polemic about "those stupid walled-garden networks are bad!" I know that Facebook and Twitter and Pinterest and LinkedIn and the rest are great sites, and they give their users a lot of value. They're amazing achievements, from a pure software perspective. But they're based on a few assumptions that aren't necessarily correct. The primary fallacy that underpins many of their mistakes is that user flexibility and control necessarily lead to a user experience complexity that hurts growth. And the second, more grave fallacy, is the thinking that exerting extreme control over users is the best way to maximize the profitability and sustainability of their networks. The first step to disabusing them of this notion is for the people creating the next generation of social applications to learn a little bit of history, to know your shit, whether that's about Twitter's business model or Google's social features or anything else. We have to know what's been tried and failed, what good ideas were simply ahead of their time, and what opportunities have been lost in the current generation of dominant social networks. [Originally published December 2012.] Anil Dash I love NYC, tech & funk. You can see all the things I'm up to at http://anildash.com/ or reach me at anil(a)dashes.com or 646 833-8659. --- Romy Ilano romy(a)snowyla.com

10 years, 10 months

Can anyone come by to open the common room in the morning?

by Eddie Che

Thanks, just need to pick up some materials for the hop over to SF (and, Redwood City for the legal case.) Che. you could, volunteer a number mine's 440-935-5434 and, the time will be between 8 and 9:30 so, please can someone give me the hookup?

10 years, 10 months

Fwd: [P2P-F] Fwd: Google Mine: Service To "Help" You Share Your Gadgets, Clothes And Other Stuff With Friends

by Marina Kukso

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Michel Bauwens <michel(a)p2pfoundation.net> Date: Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 9:15 AM Subject: [P2P-F] Fwd: Google Mine: Service To "Help" You Share Your Gadgets, Clothes And Other Stuff With Friends To: p2p-foundation <p2p-foundation(a)lists.ourproject.org> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dante-Gabryell Monson <dante.monson(a)gmail.com> Date: Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 10:17 PM Subject: Fwd: Google Mine: Service To "Help" You Share Your Gadgets, Clothes And Other Stuff With Friends To: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004(a)gmail.com> via Seth ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: S Date: Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 7:54 AM Subject: Google Mine: Service To "Help" You Share Your Gadgets, Clothes And Other Stuff With Friends http://techcrunch.com/2013/06/21/google-is-reportedly-working-on-a-service-… Google is apparently working on an app called Google Mine that is meant to help you share real-world items, such as CDs, cars, bikes, gadgets or clothes, with your friends. The service, which is apparently closely integrated with Google+, is said to be in private beta testing within Google right now. According to Chitu, the service also allows you to catalog your belongings, review them (which could be cool for purchases) and send requests to borrow stuff from friends. There also seems to be something akin to a wish list and a feature that will allow you to share a list of items you don’t want to share but just want to give away. All of this sharing, of course, happens on Google+. [image: google_mine]<http://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/google_mine.png> The service, the report says, is available on the web and through an Android app. The app also supposedly includes a 3D viewer that’ll show you your objects, though it’s not clear how you would get these models into the app. Google is obviously not the only company interested in this kind of real-world tracking. Mine <http://getmine.com/>, a startup that launched last December<http://techcrunch.com/2012/12/10/blippy-redux-mine-launches-a-service-for-s…> and that probably doesn’t have the exact same name by coincidence, is also working on giving its users the ability to track the things they own, but with a focus on what they’ve bought online. This service, though, seems to be more focused on e-commerce than on the sharing economy. -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ _______________________________________________ P2P Foundation - Mailing list http://www.p2pfoundation.net https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation

10 years, 10 months

Making More Accessible...

by Eddie Che

Hello! Two ideas came up during a sit outside with all my stuff. Let's keep accessibility as a priority! How do you guys feel about: a) Can we intentionally unlock the front door of the common room where the cosmic stairs are? eg, first one in each day, unlocks it? I noticed that the Fresh tomatoes group likes to leave the bottom Broadway-side door open, which seems to be cool with George. b) Who was it that was super-nearby? Perhaps, could this person put on paper+tape on the side door: "If locked, can call : _______" & he can use the door IP? (at reasonable hours) rawk on. and, my generator's almost complete now! of good note also, the main desktop is working again and the power cord for the extra laptop came back for those who don't have their own laptops :) sudo is an excellent example, let's just figure out these other access things! rap back, che

10 years, 10 months

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sudo-discuss June 2013