sudo-discuss November 2014

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Call for Facilitators / Participants in a sudo Men's Group

by Matthew Senate

Hey all, I wanted to reach out for some feedback. Seeking folks who would want to facilitate or participate in a men's group. I've previously participated in small groups like this and found them beneficial for various reasons. I would like to see if folks have had similar or different experiences. The way I'm thinking about this would culminate in something like a regular meeting for men in the sudo room community to discuss relevant issues including those of identity, oppression, privilege, patriarchy, gender, sexuality, stereotypes, safe space, and mutual support. This may not be the best or even a viable path to approach these topics, but I wanted to throw it out there to see if there is any interest. Thanks, Matt

5 years, 9 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] Tiny houses made for homeless in West Oak

by Mark Perlin

Fantastic example of making a difference! I wonder, how many tiny homes a community can build together in one weekend? http://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-news/ci_24869274/oakland-artist-turns-t… > > Message: 10 > Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 18:01:18 -0800 > From: Vicky Knox <vknoxsironi(a)gmail.com> > To: Sudo Room discuss <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> > Subject: [sudo-discuss] > Tiny houses made for homeless in West Oak by > artist! > Message-ID: > < > CAPwEF4rkTw+Of5-Z9+oLkGJeGvTMOqtB0xJtYmEBtFefv3jXPw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > People. 8| Do any of you know more about this person? > > > http://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-news/ci_24869274/oakland-artist-turns-t… > >

10 years, 7 months

Omni Crowdfund Perks!

by Jenny Ryan

Hi all! We are in the last stages of preparations to launch Omni's crowdfunding campaign next weekend, and we need your help! Please use this thread to brainstorm on perks we could offer, keeping in mind that *experiences* are cheaper to produce and more interesting to donors than shwag. * Would any sudoers be interested in co-hosting maker workshops? * How about making robot drawings (and recording the robot drawing it) based on SVG images people send in? * Can anyone bottom-line making 3D printed magnets? Or 3D printed something or others? * Marc and I are going to be putting together hackpacks <http://hackpack.me> that people can buy for themselves or for us to donate to a teenager. * Maybe we could offer a 'teleconference with a hacker'? * Anything you can think of! Fact of the day: 85% of successful campaigns raise 1/3 of their goal in the first 72 hours. Please prep friends in your networks now for a donation next week! <3 Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

10 years, 10 months

Who put Newbie Night on the calendar?

by Jenny Ryan

I'm removing it, because nobody ever shows up to host. I'll re-add it if someone can make an excellent case for why it should remain! Doocratically yours, Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

10 years, 10 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] Sewing machines

by Jake

Hi Helen, the truth is that there is no one in charge of the sewing machines, and if you feel qualified to work on them and improve them, you should go ahead and do that. If you can document what you're doing, it will help if you can either do that on paper by the machines, or preferably by editing the sudoroom wiki. If you are not familiar with Wiki editing, there are people who can help you get started with that. I brought in the Embroidery machine, and I know a little about how it works, but i'm no expert. We appreciate anything you can do to help get all the machines working just right. Note; one of them is a button sewing machine. I think it was mistaken for a serger (which we do not have, but we want) so I am hoping it can be returned and we can get a serger instead. Also we have a very nice "juki" sewing machine that is apparently missing its oil pan. I think oil pans can be made out of sheetmetal, or bought on ebay, but anyway that machine would be a good replcaement for the older machine on the wooden table, if we can get it to work better than that one. thanks you for your help! -jake On Fri Nov 28 Helen wrote: Hello, I recently was invited to sudoroom to check out the sewing machines and have tinkered with them a little bit. I've identified some problems, missing pieces, etc. and want to keep working on/with them, but I'd like to talk to anyone else who has used them or whoever brought them there. I look forward to meeting y'all and I'm excited to get involved with the space. - Helen

10 years, 10 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] [Shelter] Tiny houses made for homeless in West Oak

by Autonomous

Here's a link to a few images of a low cost "Tiny Home" concept based on truck camper RV's which are available for free or very cheap: https://plus.google.com/u/1/photos/106839673035751587991/albums/60779607855… The catch is that the jacks used to raise and lower these campers are no longer functional due to structural issues with the wood frame. So I devised a way in which the camper can be rolled onto the back of a car trailer and then rolled off onto a wood platform foundation. You can see this in some of the attached images. One advantage of the truck camper is that it is not technically a "RV" since it has no wheels plus it is less than 120 square ft. So if you have a property to put one of these on then no permit is required. However, people absolutely hate these things so I modify it to make it look like a small shed. I have two of these tiny homes setup now, one in Marin near China Camp and another in the NE corner of California on a 10 acre farm. There's also an image included of a tent cabin which is technically a "fabric covered agricultural processing structure" in the eyes of the law. The land use is described as a "Tree Sanctuary" where we rescue small endangered trees and reintroduce them into the wild, hence the justification for occupying the property which we own freely with no mortgage or other banking encumbrances. On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Autonomous <autonomous666(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I attached a few images of a low cost "Tiny Home" concept based on truck > camper RV's which are available for free or very cheap. The catch is that > the jacks used to raise and lower these campers are no longer functional > due to structural issues with the wood frame. So I devised a way in which > the camper can be rolled onto the back of a car trailer and then rolled off > onto a wood platform foundation. You can see this in some of the attached > images. > > One advantage of the truck camper is that it is not technically a "RV" > since it has no wheels plus it is less than 120 square ft. So if you have a > property to put one of these on then no permit is required. However, people > absolutely hate these things so I modify it to make it look like a small > shed. > > I have two of these tiny homes setup now, one in Marin near China Camp and > another in the NE corner of California on a 10 acre farm. There's also an > image attached of a tent cabin which is technically a "fabric covered > agricultural processing structure" in the eyes of the law. The land use is > described a "Tree Sanctuary" where we rescue small endangered trees and > reintroduce them into the wild, hence the justification for occupying the > property which we own freely with no mortgage or other banking encumbrances. > > > On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 12:18 PM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote: > >> whoa spaced out there...yeah it's been a while! early DEC sound good? >> I've been doing alot of scheming but near zero construction. I think it'd >> be cool to actually build something, like a 4'x4'x8' sleeping/storage >> module simple enough that 5-10 people could make a prototype in a weekend. >> >> >> >> >> On 2014-11-04 12:06, Cris Shirley wrote: >> >> Hello Tiny House Crew! >> >> What's the latest on the Tiny House Caucus and Shelter planning for an >> East Bay Tiny House village/trailer park. >> >> I'm looking to get a tiny house soon and want to see where others are at >> and if we have any movement that I've missed out on over the summer. >> >> I'd love to get a meeting together if others are interested. Looks like >> the East Bay Tiny House meetup group has one scheduled for December 21st, >> but another one sooner and less in conflict with holiday time would be >> great too! >> >> Best, >> >> Cris Shirley >> >> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:35 PM, Hol Gaskill <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote: >> >>> we had a meeting maybe 2 months ago RE building a fleet of trailerable >>> tiny homes, probably overdue for another. >>> >>> Here is a list set up for discussion of tiny homes, including >>> construction, social justice / housing, property search, all aspects of the >>> discussion: https://tentacle.net/mailman/listinfo/shelter however >>> there hasn't been that much traffic yet. Seems like we should start >>> hashing out some details and getting people organized a bit into whatever >>> aspects of the tiny home movement they are most interested in hacking on. >>> >>> just made a pad with the minutes from the first and so far only meeting >>> that i know of - https://pad.riseup.net/p/TinyHomeCaucus feel free to >>> just flesh out the minutes and add your thoughts wherever as it's just a >>> loose list of topics. >>> >>> I should have some open bandwidth in the next few weeks - anyone for >>> meeting up to discuss? Last meeting was at a bar, would propose to do same >>> for next. >>> >>> cheers, >>> hol >>> >>> Mar 6, 2014 10:00:42 PM, owens.marcus(a)gmail.com wrote: >>> Hey all- I think this topic is super important given the gentrification >>> and housing crisis in our area, the increasing eviction of encampments such >>> as at the recent clearing of the camp at the southend of lake merritt >>> around the convention center, etc. I think there's also a lot of potential >>> to go beyond the sculptural practice of this guys work given organizing >>> networks and capacities of a place like sudo, not to mention the temperate >>> climate of the bay area. Could this conversation be worthy of some sort of >>> "Right to the City/Hack the City" working group? Would love to connecting >>> with others interested in developing this conversation.. >>> >>> >a priori, a few potentially relevant precedents from the arch/design >>> world: >>> > >>> >Materials: >>> >Superuse Studios: cataloging waste materials from industrial ecologies >>> to be used for building projects. >>> http://superuse-studios.com/index.php/category/platforms/ >>> > >>> >Construction: >>> >Architect Teddy Cruz has been working on developing frameworks for safe >>> informal/DIY housing in Tijuana/San Diego. >>> >>> http://www.california-architects.com/en/estudio/projects-3/Manufactured_Sit… >>> > >>> >Landscape/Site: >>> >>> >Urban Code: UC berkeley project to catalog and network interstitial >>> city-owned land in SF.http://nicholas.demonchaux.com/Work/local-code >>> > >>> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >m >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Vicky Knox vknoxsironi(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> >>> >Heh glad this thread is so popular! Any response yet from this guy? On >>> a related note, I'm part of a listserv* where talk of tiny houses has been >>> really hot. Let me know if you want access. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> > >>> *Spaghetti Night. It is a great portal into (one of) the Berkeley >>> co-op/weirdo universe(s). >>> > >>> > >>> >2014-03-03 10:06 GMT-08:00 Hol Gaskill hol(a)gaskill.com>: >>> >>> > >>> >>> >hah the look on his face must've been priceless! i was scheming on >>> said conestoga wagon, decided to get a few flatbeds under my belt first. >>> hopefully have something to report on this month! >>> >>> >>> >>> cheers, >>> hol >>> >>> on Mar 02, 2014, Gabrielle Silverman gabbywingnut(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> >>> > >>> Hey it's definitely real, I know somebody who got one of the tiny houses. >>> >>> Also on the "what if... occupy" tip I was once involved with a community >>> garden in the south bronx that kept getting bulldozed and rebuilt over and >>> over. Kicking off one of the re-occupations we built a little cassita in >>> pieces in another garden around the corner and then carried it all over and >>> screwed it together one night to announce the rebirth of the encampment. >>> >>> >>> >>> Best moment was dude from the city the first morning talking into his >>> cell phone: "They have a house. I repeat a HOUSE. They're more organized >>> than we thought they were..." >>> >>> gabby >>> >>> On Mar 2, 2014 5:54 PM, "Chris Bee" hotelcompany(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> I'm not calling shenanigans, but...I haven't seen any of these around, >>> and I spend a lot of time in WSO. Should I call that number and volunteer >>> my services? Assuming the article's legit and not just a puff piece, this >>> sounds like a project that sudo should be working with. >>> > >>> >>> >>> >Even if it's BS, I recall someone- quite possibly from sudo- mentioning >>> a bike trailer/Conestoga wagon type thing that sounded pretty cool. I don't >>> remember whether they built it or were planning to build it...anyone? >>> > >>> >>> >>> -chrisbee >>> >>> >_______________________________________________ >>> > sudo-discuss mailing list >>> > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>> > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > >>> >_______________________________________________ >>> >sudo-discuss mailing list >>> >sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>> > >>> >>> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> > >>> >>> >_______________________________________________ >>> > >>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>> > >>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>> > >>> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>> > >>> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >-- >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Shelter mailing list >>> Shelter(a)tentacle.net >>> https://tentacle.net/mailman/listinfo/shelter >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >> >> >

10 years, 10 months

Sewing machines

by Helen Gannon

Hello, I recently was invited to sudoroom to check out the sewing machines and have tinkered with them a little bit. I've identified some problems, missing pieces, etc. and want to keep working on/with them, but I'd like to talk to anyone else who has used them or whoever brought them there. I look forward to meeting y'all and I'm excited to get involved with the space. - Helen

10 years, 10 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] Omni Orphan Thanksgiving

by Ben Burke

STATUS UPDATE: I have just arrived with a number of pies that were donated by Kevin. (That number of pies is four.) To accompany the pies, Kevin also donated five bottles of wine. I have donated three bottles of Champagne. SO we have desert and some beverages but nothing on the food front except (nourishing) green beans. There are 3 “orphans" currently. Join us, bring your food. Also an assortment of small screws for my robot claw. > On Nov 26, 2014, at 11:12 PM, Cere Misc <cere.misc(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > It's not a formal event, but one way or another there's sort of going to be one tomorrow for those of us that want to be there. > > > So: > > I'm bringing some yummy Bluelake Beans to cook. > > If someone could bring something to drink, that would be rad. Fruit salad would be awesome too. I would make it if there's enough fruit stuff around. > > -Cere > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org > https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss

10 years, 10 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] about shawn (old man who talks only nonsense)

by Jake

here's what Stan has to say about him ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 09:31:16 -0600 From: Stan Osborne <stan(a)ana.com> To: Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> Subject: Re: Shawn Jake, Thanks for helping SuDo learn more about Shawn. For awhile he was a regular at Spazport. When he is at OMNI I attempt conversation. He now speaks in a manner that is understandable. I recall a few years ago when I could not understand one word of what he was trying to say. His desire to be a part of a community has not changed. Since I have known him more than a decade his eccentricities do not bother me. At h3ll he would tell me he was not involved with playing chess any more. In recent months I've seen him playing chess with others at OMNI. He has made suggestions on improving OMNI, and uses SuDo room coputers for email, etc. These are all things he has not done in some time. Stan On Thu, November 27, 2014 10:39 pm, Jake wrote: > regarding > https://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-discuss/2014-November/008376.html > [sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] Strange man sleeping in eyeball room > > this is an email from my friend John who tries to take care of Shawn, the > guy who has been coming to the omni and sometimes making trouble, to the > point where people need to ask him to leave. > > I understand why people ask him to leave when they do, I just figured i > would pass this along for context, both for him specifically, and for the > kinds of situations people wind up in. > > -jake > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 09:47:47 -0800 > From: John Benson <followthatparade(a)gmail.com> > To: Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> > Subject: Re: shawn squatting the omni > > Hi Jake, > wish we were more regularly in touch... alas. > on the Shawn front: > over the last couple of years five of us. little by little were able to > get Shawn > a successful SSI claim which produced its first benefit check of 768$ > we have a budget and a couple of folks helping out.... > > 200 of it is going to pay for the storage container at my shop > where he sleeps and fills with garbage until i clean it all out. > (which I have been paying for about two years now) > > In other news he has had his dad, Russel, his aunt Connie, Alrita, and > a cousin, Darrel, each separately continue to threaten and harrass him > these last couple > of years. they have done various things such as call the city on the > warehouse > for code violations and sit infront of my house for hours and call me and > shawn repeatedly > and tell us that we are sinners going to hell and that they have lawers, > ... etc. I don't know what their > motivation is really > could be the money, could be the christian thing to do , but the all seem > to hate each other > i am the one who found them in the ssi process and reached out to them. > none have seen Shawn in the last > 15 years but two had been payee's until 2004. so I suspect money.... > > this last year Shawn has been in three different Psychiatric facilities > after being hospitalized by the > police > and i have three separate abuse claims with Berkeley police > review/oversight committee with the emergency > room reports > (these actually helped in evaluation process of the ssi claim) > > he also has a ticket for not having a light on his bike which he refuses > to give me any info > on other than a photo of a crumbled up ticket which he sends in a text > message some times. > over the last six months and talks about aids, Chinese and ebola some > how being related to this ticket. > > there is also a long string of cafe's he is no longer allowed into who at > first, allowed me to run a tab > for him. the YMCA revoked his membership after two appeals i requested and > the purple house wont let him > inside > > this is the recent stuff in a nutshell. > > Ill talk to him about not abusing the OMni, I LOVE that place > a dream come true > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote: > hi john!!! > > i am writing to mention that Shawn is interacting with The Omni > Collective in non-ideal ways, > and i'm hoping you can offer some suggestions or do something to > help... > > I know you're loath to hook him up with any social services that > imply that he is not 100% > competent, but given that friends of mine have declared themselves > fully incompetent just to > receive a salary from the state, i don't think it's a big deal for > him to get a little > professional help. > > especially as he gets older and the squats and other opportunities > he has been depending on for > years are starting to dry up, i think it would be good for him to > have some sort of reliable > backup plan. He can likely get an apartment and have a safe place > to go at the end of each > day. > > here's what happened at the omni: > > https://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-discuss/2014-November/008379.html > -- > john benson > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org > https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss >

10 years, 10 months

about shawn (old man who talks only nonsense)

by Jake

regarding https://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-discuss/2014-November/008376.html [sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] Strange man sleeping in eyeball room this is an email from my friend John who tries to take care of Shawn, the guy who has been coming to the omni and sometimes making trouble, to the point where people need to ask him to leave. I understand why people ask him to leave when they do, I just figured i would pass this along for context, both for him specifically, and for the kinds of situations people wind up in. -jake ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 09:47:47 -0800 From: John Benson <followthatparade(a)gmail.com> To: Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> Subject: Re: shawn squatting the omni Hi Jake, wish we were more regularly in touch... alas. on the Shawn front: over the last couple of years five of us. little by little were able to get Shawn a successful SSI claim which produced its first benefit check of 768$ we have a budget and a couple of folks helping out.... 200 of it is going to pay for the storage container at my shop where he sleeps and fills with garbage until i clean it all out. (which I have been paying for about two years now) In other news he has had his dad, Russel, his aunt Connie, Alrita, and a cousin, Darrel, each separately continue to threaten and harrass him these last couple of years. they have done various things such as call the city on the warehouse for code violations and sit infront of my house for hours and call me and shawn repeatedly and tell us that we are sinners going to hell and that they have lawers, ... etc. I don't know what their motivation is really could be the money, could be the christian thing to do , but the all seem to hate each other i am the one who found them in the ssi process and reached out to them. none have seen Shawn in the last 15 years but two had been payee's until 2004. so I suspect money.... this last year Shawn has been in three different Psychiatric facilities after being hospitalized by the police and i have three separate abuse claims with Berkeley police review/oversight committee with the emergency room reports (these actually helped in evaluation process of the ssi claim) he also has a ticket for not having a light on his bike which he refuses to give me any info on other than a photo of a crumbled up ticket which he sends in a text message some times. over the last six months and talks about aids, Chinese and ebola some how being related to this ticket. there is also a long string of cafe's he is no longer allowed into who at first, allowed me to run a tab for him. the YMCA revoked his membership after two appeals i requested and the purple house wont let him inside this is the recent stuff in a nutshell. Ill talk to him about not abusing the OMni, I LOVE that place a dream come true On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote: hi john!!! i am writing to mention that Shawn is interacting with The Omni Collective in non-ideal ways, and i'm hoping you can offer some suggestions or do something to help... I know you're loath to hook him up with any social services that imply that he is not 100% competent, but given that friends of mine have declared themselves fully incompetent just to receive a salary from the state, i don't think it's a big deal for him to get a little professional help. especially as he gets older and the squats and other opportunities he has been depending on for years are starting to dry up, i think it would be good for him to have some sort of reliable backup plan. He can likely get an apartment and have a safe place to go at the end of each day. here's what happened at the omni: https://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-discuss/2014-November/008379.html -- john benson

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