sudo-discuss September 2014

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by Jake

to all those who have expressed interest in hacking the robot, i hope to come to sudoroom tonight to play with it some more. i have bolts with which to bolt it down to its pallet, and I will add 2x4 boards to the pallet to make it less likely to tip over. It won't be perfect but it will be good enough to play with, and still easy to move to a different location when the time comes. If you haven't already started, start reading the fucking manuals at this site: http://spaz.org/~jake/robot/ specifically, http://spaz.org/~jake/robot/479950-3-Programming_manual_v4.pdf and if you're into coding and want to control it from a real computer, read this one (and some others, not sure which) starting around page 43 (page 49 of the PDF): http://spaz.org/~jake/robot/479236-17-Communications.pdf I will take care of physically connecting it to the serial port of the 3d-printing desktop computer, so you can connect over the network and operate it that way without having to connect the robot to your laptop. Tonight (assuming i make it to sudo on time) i intend to program it to shake its maraca vigorously to the beat of some music, and bolt it down to its platform.. not necessarily in that order. Oh and hook up the serial cord. -jake

11 years, 1 month

null modem adaptor needed

by Jake

i feel ridiculous asking for a null-modem adaptor... and certainly one can be made with a bit of soldering on a regular cable (which we have extras of) but if anyone has a null-modem adaptor laying around, i think we need it for the robot. A DE-9 to DE-9 (male to female) would be ideal, although a DB-25 one would work too. Even if it goes from 25 to 9 pins that would be fine. We have lots of regular serial cables. This is to hook the 3d-printing desktop computer up to the robot, so we can make it do more stuff. I am not sure a null-modem adaptor is needed, but it doesn't seem to say anything at all without one so i'm guessing that's the problem. Normally a disk drive (which we have) plugs into this port on the robot, so to connect the robot to a computer would suggest DTE-DTE which would require a null-modem adaptor. -jake * there is no such thing as a DB-9 connector: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-subminiature#mediaviewer/File:DSubminiatures… DCE/DTE and null-modem adaptors: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_terminal_equipment

11 years, 1 month

Re: [sudo-discuss] Sudoroom electrical plans

by Whitney Lawrence

Howdy, Let me begin with thanking you for looking at the proposal. Your interpretation of the plans is correct.{ Main -> above stage panel -> balcony panel } is how the proposed plan is drawn. There is enough room in the balcony panel (which is the one located in the small room that shares a wall with the server loft of sudoroom) to accomplish phase 1 of the proposal. The proposal is based on instruction received to minimize cost. Ideally, there would be a main panel breaker that supplies a sub panel for all of sudo's needs (phase 1 and phase 2). I can't accurately guess at a cost number for this type of installation. Figure a 100amp sub with hundreds of feet of 2awg plus breaker box plus breakers plus conduit plus hardware. All depending on if the main service can even handle the additional power demands (hiring an electrician to run the calcs). Ballpark $3-5k maybe- but its really a shot in the dark? My experience with this type of thing is there is always a better way to do it, if you go the money. A middle road is to plan on having the future sudo-sub panel placed near the balcony panel. Build in an extra 5ft or so of wire for the future transition into the new sudo-sub panel. All that would be needed is to remove the breakers from the old box re-run wire from J-box 1 to the new sudo-sub, as well as re-routing the 240V lines from the above stage panel to the sudo-sub (and of course preform all the main -> suod-sub work). as far as existing vs proposed. only the sub panels mentioned above exist currently- I'll make a note to call out the existing stuff in the drawings. Thanks, Whit On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Cere Mona Davis <ceremona(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi everyone. It's the first time I have looked at these plans and I have > some questions and thoughts. Dave said he won't be able to respond to this > email until a couple of days as he is out in the boonies somewhere. So I > am writing in to expedite some issues that I think he will likely bring up > in the days ahead. > > Whit, thanks for drawing up these plans! For someone who is not > intimately familiar with our electrical layout the plans might need a more > clear description of existing electrical vs. proposed new electrical, > however. > > In multiple conversations with Dave (and one on-site visit) he has > mentioned repeatedly that we will want to shoot for putting in another sub > panel for the sudoroom off of the main panel as the end-game; rather than > daisy-chaining off of an existing panel (the balcony) as what seems to be > proposed here. If we can't immediately put in a sub panel into the room, > due to cost, we should at-least be planning for conduit and wiring paths, > etc that allows for a sudoroom sub-panel in the future. > > Thoughts? > -Cere > > > > On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:23 AM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote: > >> Thanks Yar! Whit can you liaise w/ Dave RE how much of the work is >> going to be done under the first permit? >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Hol >> >> >> >> >> On 2014-09-04 23:16, yar wrote: >> >> Hi all, Dave Pedroli is a certified electrician who's offered to >> review our plans to give them an okay. I'm copying him and the people >> who've been most involved with electrical work. >> >> Dave, the latest plans are attached, and also available online[1 <https://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-discuss/2014-August/007369.html>]. >> Could you please look them over and write us a few formal-sounding >> sentences that boil down to "hello I am a real electrician and I say >> these plans are solid"? This will help us make the landlord happy so >> he will let us do them. Thank you!! >> >> [1] https://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-discuss/2014-August/007369.html >> >> > > > -- > Best Regards, > Cere Davis > ceremona(a)gmail.com > ------------------- > GPG Key: http://taffy.findpage.com/~cere/pubkey.asc > GPG fingerprint (ID# 73FCA9E6) : F5C7 627B ECBE C735 117B 2278 9A95 4C88 > 73FC A9E6 >

11 years, 1 month

Re: [sudo-discuss] Sudoroom electrical plans

by yar

On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 7:04 AM, Dave Pedroli <davepedroli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Fine by me. Dave, thanks so much for your help. Can we interpret this as a general "ok" for our plans to move forward? Our next step is to get approval from the landlord, and he's going to ask the same thing, so we just need to be clear. Thanks!

11 years, 1 month

Re: [sudo-discuss] Agenda Item for next week's meeting: ONL is not a member collective.

by yar

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Andrew Lowe <andrew(a)lostways.com> wrote: > I did not attend this event, but I have attended ONL events before. ONL is a > talk show, I'm not sure why not being political enough makes them > "offensive". I mean I will let them speak for them selves, but they are an > entertainment show, why would you expect a "debate" at a talk show? > > Also while it is true that ONL reduced their rent before singing the > sublease option, there still has been no official policy that says that that > action (which Backspace took as well, at the time) requires a > re-application. > > It would be great if ONL paid more, but keep in mind that we haven't come up > with a price for nightly rentals in the ballroom, when we do I think it > would be fair to evaluate ONL's contribution based on that. > > Anyway, just standing up for this show even if it isn't really my cup of tea > all the time, I think what ONL has been able to do with it is pretty > amazing, and to force them out because their show isn't radical enough in > the ways you want it to be would be a shame. I don't think the event should be "forced out" but I do think ONL should be restructured as just another group that rents the ballroom, and not a core OOC collective with delegate status that they never exercise anyway.

11 years, 1 month

need company affiliation

by johanna faust

to sign up with Skyhook to get an API -- any suggestions? -- *Be seeing you.*

11 years, 1 month

Yerba Mate Baby!

by Jenny Ryan

Hi! We recently received an awesome donation of yerba mate cuttings! Patrick came by tonight and helped us root it in perlite with rooting hormone. It should be spritzed with water multiple time a day, so feel free to give it a spritz when you're in the space! I'll bring in a spray bottle and a checklist for indicaring upkeep tomorrow or Tuesday :) I for one welcome our new mate overlords. <3

11 years, 1 month

Agenda Item for next week's meeting: ONL is not a member collective.

by David Keenan

http://wiki.omni-oakland.org/w/ONL Feel free to weigh in, but this is long overdue and I will bring this up at the next meeting. Best, David

11 years, 1 month

Resistor #1 zinemaking party this weekend & printing help needed!

by "Løng$hanks"

Hullo S(tan) P(ublishes) A(wesome) Z(ines) & other worthies, This weekend at the Land of Broken Refrigerators---aka the 'Coon Shack, aka our permission squat located in a warehouse in one of San Francisco's few green oases---myself, Glamortramp & a mysterious entity known only as +11+ will go into full production mode on the first issue of "RESISTOR: a Zine for those holding on for dear life to San Francisco (as well as those we have already lost)." https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2014/08/10/18759852.php I o w, zine-making party in SF this weekend, and no one is invited! We've got glue sticks, scissors, a ream of 11 x 17 paper, & a semi-working laptop, which is all we need to slap this first issue together. So we don't need your help. But we will be happy to give you a print copy of RESISTOR #1 in person the next time we cross paths in SF. So if you want one, let us know. We plan to print 100 copies or so of this first issue. It will be online eventually but we can't tell you where or when just yet. One or two issues of RESISTOR will be produced before we move north (at long last!) in late September or early October. Back to the Pacific Northwest---finally!---where it may still be possible to leave the raccoon life behind & live once again like a human being, with the comforts of modern civilization. Then again, that sounds kind of boring, & there's something to be said for the raccoon life---so either way, we'll be all right. We could use help printing the zine! Black & white on tabloid (11 x 17" paper) is what we need. If you can help, let us know! Drop us a line here or at sfresistor(a)riseup.net. Peace etc. +11+ Glamortramp & Longshanks -- Not all who wander are lost.

11 years, 1 month

Seeking project help?

by Tracy Jacobs

Hi, I am looking for someone that is skilled at electronics and mechanics who would have availability to help me with some upcoming small art projects. Prefer someone in the east Bay because that is where I live. I’m willing to pay $$ for your time, please contact me if interested, thanks, Tracy http://www.funkyautomata.com

11 years, 1 month

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sudo-discuss September 2014