sudo-discuss April 2022

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Re: [omni-consensus] Building Community Collective Proposal to Join Omni Commons

by Jake

last chance for objections to this proposal, otherwise I will say that I believe Sudoroom is in support of the proposal. We did not reach sudo-quorum (7 members) but i have heard positive sentiments and no objections. we can discuss it at the meeting tomorrow night but for god sakes please lets not -jake ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2022 20:25:10 -0700 From: Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com> To: consensus(a)omnicommons.org Subject: Re: [omni-consensus] [omni-discuss] Building Community Collective Proposal to Join Omni Commons This proposal came in at 7pm during the last delegates meeting but we didn't have time to discuss it then. Do delegates feel like they have enough information to consent this Thursday, or do we need more time to ask questions? On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 11:49 PM Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Being a fiscally sponsored project of omni is usually the simplest > thing, except we'd have to decide whether that also covers your > activities outside the building, or whether the project would > technically be called "BCC at omni" or something to limit the scope. I > think if you're legally an omni project and your activities in the > building are similar to regular omni activities then you wouldn't need > a separate insurance policy - can someone correct if I'm wrong? > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 10:07 AM Michaela Budde > <michaelabudde87(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Yar! >> >> Appreciate your enthusiasm! We think it's a great fit too. >> >> We are not incorporated in any way. We are a collective with a group chat and an instagram! >> >> Please let us know how that would work legally. >> >> Thanks, >> Micha >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 11:26 PM Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hell yes please! I've been so happy to work with Micha and Marquise >>> over the past couple months and am looking forward to meeting more BCC >>> folks. I think this is exactly what Omni needs and I'm so happy to see >>> this proposal. >>> >>> In terms of the logistics of adding a new member collective, what is >>> the best legal arrangement? Are you all incorporated in any way? Does >>> BCC want to be a fiscally sponsored project of omni, or something >>> else? Can we give them full coverage under our existing insurance or >>> does there need to be a separate policy for them? >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 7:00 PM Building Community Collective >>> <buildingcommunitycollective(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello, we are super excited to present this proposal, after checking in with members at the BCC. We hope this is the beginning of a great relationship between the BCC and Omni Commons! >>>> >>>> Attached is our application, please communicate with us through this email. >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Building Community Collective >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> discuss mailing list >>>> discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org >>>> https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/discuss >>> _______________________________________________ >>> consensus mailing list >>> consensus(a)lists.omnicommons.org >>> https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/consensus >> >> >> >> -- >> Michaela Budde >> (they/she/he) >> >> >> _______________________________________________ consensus mailing list consensus(a)lists.omnicommons.org https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/consensus

2 years, 8 months

is it possible to rent a room at sudo for two consecutive afternoons?

by johanna faust

we need a space for deposition; i was going to rent an event space but thought : sudo could use the money. please get back to me with contact info ASAP if interested - we need to book as soon as we can the event is ten days hence -- *Be seeing you.*

2 years, 8 months

Hardware Hacking Tuesday tonight

by Jake

Hi everyone, you're getting this email either because you're on the sudoroom discuss email list, or because I BCC'd you directly. Tonight I'll be hosting Sudoroom for those who want to come hack on whatever in person, or through telepresence of any means you can invoke. Remember that Omni Commons and Sudoroom policy is presently that EVERYONE MUST WEAR A MASK AT ALL TIMES INSIDE THE BUILDING. (if you want to eat something you should go outside) in the past few weeks, we've had about 5-15 people over the course of the evening, not including remote participants who logged in through the telescreen. Jenny put it on the Omni calendar: https://omnicommons.org/blog/events/hardware-hack-night-3-2022-03-01/ Here it is on the sudoroom page: https://sudoroom.org/events/hardware-hack-night-2022-02-15/ I try to be there by 7pm but you can show up earlier and people might already be there! if you get to the door (at the corner of 48th and shattuck) and you can't get in, call me or someone else who's there to let you in! Email me if you don't have my phone number. Actually a great way to get our attention is to join the video chat link at the end of this email! We don't always hear the doorbell and I don't answer it after 10PM anyway because of diminishing returns :) You should get on this sudoroom discuss mailinglist! click here: https://sudoroom.org/lists/postorius/lists/sudo-discuss.sudoroom.org/ and you should donate to sudoroom, monthly, by signing up here: https://sudoroom.org/humans and if you want to make a one-time donation, you can go here: https://sudoroom.org/donate if you can't make it, join the jitsi videochat with the room, and chat with each other as well as a giant TV screen/speakerphone on the wall of the space: https://meet.waag.org/turtlesturtlesturtles (don't worry if you're the only one in the "room", others will join eventually, and if the camera is pointed at the floor, just yell until someone comes and talks to you and then ask them to aim it back up into the room) see you soon! -jake

2 years, 8 months

Re: [omni-consensus] PROPOSAL: $4k to fix entrance hall floor (fwd)

by Jake

more information ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2022 14:53:06 -0700 From: Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com> To: joe liesner <blue393(a)lmi.net> Cc: consensus <consensus(a)lists.omnicommons.org>, building <building(a)lists.omnicommons.org> Subject: Re: [omni-consensus] [omni-building] PROPOSAL: $4k to fix entrance hall floor On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 7:40 AM joe liesner <blue393(a)lmi.net> wrote: > What are the restaurant booths for? Are they part of the Village of Love’s needs? > The cafe is not indicated - size or associated fixtures. Who will run it? I have no details about restaurant booths or cafe because this proposal is mostly just about fixing the floor. Those are just ideas for the future. Village of Love will not require us to install any furniture in particular. Their interest in the entrance hall is: 1) to temporarily run part of the drop-in center in the entrance hall, for a couple months, to help build relationships with neighbors before asking them to go to the basement 2) to make it look nice and organized so that when they bring funders through, those funders are more likely to write grants to help omni generate more income and improve the building _______________________________________________ consensus mailing list consensus(a)lists.omnicommons.org https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/consensus

2 years, 8 months

[omni-consensus] PROPOSAL: $4k to fix entrance hall floor (fwd)

by Jake

Dear Sudoroom members, in three days I will be asked to approve the following proposal on behalf of the membership of sudoroom. If anyone has any objections please let me know, otherwise I will say that Sudoroom has no objections, although I will ask for more information about how the $4000 of Omni money (which Omni already has) will be spent. -jake ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 22:33:21 -0700 From: Yardena Cohen <yardenack(a)gmail.com> To: consensus <consensus(a)lists.omnicommons.org> Cc: building <building(a)lists.omnicommons.org> Subject: [omni-consensus] PROPOSAL: $4k to fix entrance hall floor I propose that we spend $4k to fix the floor and make other minor improvements to the entrance hall. Attached is a draft floorplan for how I'm envisioning the entrance hall would look, at least in the near term future. What do people think? Would we be able to approve this money at the meeting in 3 days? Proposed timeline: * Starting now: clean up messes, remove junk, minor repairs * Thursday April 21: delegates approve plan * Saturday April 23: events in ballroom * Sunday April 24: Omni open house * Monday April 25: hang plastic dividers, paint & finish "east end" * Wednesday April 27: move free store to newly finished east end * wrap up "west end" in plastic * deep-clean west end: vacuum rafters, mop, etc * install floor drain in old bar drain pipe * pour new floor material where the old bar used to be * move free store to northwest corner Tentative future plans (near to far): * install new lighting on west end ceiling * install restaurant booths along north wall * install permanent wheelchair lift to ballroom * install new bar/cafe in southeast corner

2 years, 8 months

hammond organ speaker

by Jake

the Hammond organ with the Leslie speaker is amazing! But i know the speaker paper is chewed up and decayed to hell and needs a recone. Here's a video of Marc playing it: https://www.instagram.com/tv/CcCaiMRDEKU/ Where can we find parts for a recone kit? I volunteer Arlo to do the reconing, he did a great job with a giant subwoofer recently. What model speaker is it? Or do we just have to find a reconing company that can send us a custom cone and surround according to measurements we make? maybe Tuesday night we can take measurements, and try to figure out the model number of the speaker. I wouldn't be surprised if we have to re-use the voice coil that's in there now - who knows what weird impedance it is (this is an electromagnetic-stator speaker powered by a tube amp!) and it's probably made with whale-bone PCB lacquer that will outlast anything we can buy, plus there's nothing wrong with it. Thanks to Kent for rebuilding the amplifier the organ is mentioned a couple of times in this Meeting from 2015: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2015-09-02 I created a wiki page for it, please edit and contribute: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Hammond_Organ -jake

2 years, 8 months

sudoroom is clean now thanks to Eric

by Jake

Eric T came through today and swept and cleaned the SHIT out of sudoroom!!! The floor is swept and clean and you can literally eat off of it (I did) in order to keep it clean, we should all pitch in and pick up trash and put things away all the time! I brought in a Roomba and set it up with its little charging base. We'll see how well it survives, hopefully it doesn't knock over a rain bucket onto itself (there are two rain buckets dripping right now) -jake

2 years, 8 months

Water leak needs cleaning

by Marc Juul

There was a major roof leak over sudo/ccl last night. It was caused by a clog in the main roof drainpipe which caused a lot of water to build up on the roof (over ankle height along the west side of the building). CCL was hit pretty hard while sudo room got away with a big puddle on the floor. Patrik and myself spent the night dealing with the fallout in CCL and it's still not done. I did unclog the clog though. I didn't get to the sudo room puddle. If anyone is up for tackling it there is a metal shop vac sitting in CCL which is currently configured for wet operation. It will suck it right up. Be very sure to only plug it in through the GFCI adapter (which it was plugged into when I left) and the first thing you do before using it should be checking the water level and emptying it out if it's close to half full. I didn't empty it again before I left. Remember that water is surprisingly heavy, lift with your knees and don't lift alone if at all possible. I speak from experience. Thanks to Ian for alerting us about the leak and for lighting my way on the roof. -- marc/juul

2 years, 8 months

[omni-consensus] Building Community Collective Proposal to Join Omni Commons

by Jake

Hi fellow sudoroom members! We will need to consider this application for a new member collective! I'll be asked to report as a Sudoroom delegate and say what we've decided about this. We can ask questions and/or communicate concerns about it before then if we want. you can see their attachment. Primary discussion of this topic is in the "consensus" mailing list, which is open to all who are interested: https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/consensus can someone please add this topic to the next Sudoroom meeting agenda? thank you -Jake ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2022 19:00:06 -0700 From: Building Community Collective <buildingcommunitycollective(a)gmail.com> To: consensus(a)omnicommons.org, discuss(a)omnicommons.org Subject: [omni-consensus] Building Community Collective Proposal to Join Omni Commons Hello, we are super excited to present this proposal, after checking in with members at the BCC. We hope this is the beginning of a great relationship between the BCC and Omni Commons! Attached is our application, please communicate with us through this email. Sincerely, Building Community Collective

2 years, 8 months

[omni-consensus] Delegates agenda item: new rooms construction proposal

by Jake

Hi fellow sudoroom members! We need to deliberate as a collective on this proposal! in two weeks I'll be asked to report as a Sudoroom delegate and say what we've decided about this. You can view the proposal attachment here: http://omnicommons.org/pipermail/consensus/attachments/20220407/80fe1331/at… Primary discussion of this topic is in the "consensus" mailing list, which is open to all who are interested: https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/consensus can someone please add this topic to the next Sudoroom meeting agenda? thank you -Jake ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2022 14:20:28 -0700 From: Sarah Lockhart <sarah.ee.el(a)gmail.com> To: consensus <consensus(a)lists.omnicommons.org>, building <building(a)lists.omnicommons.org> Subject: [omni-consensus] Delegates agenda item: new rooms construction proposal Summary: We are proposing to spend up to $7000 to build out two new rooms for long-term tenants / new member collectives; one on the mezzanine and one in the basement. Work will be done by skilled paid contractors but finishes can be done by volunteer labor. Basic drawing of proposed rooms is included as attachment. Proposed By: Sarah Lockhart & David Keenan (Building WG / Safer DIY Spaces) Context: In order to successfully refinance the current balance of the mortgage loan, Omni needs to regularly generate an additional $6500 a month. Creating these desirable private/secure rooms could generate between $1000 - $2000 a month, depending on how much we choose to charge for these spaces. This would reduce the pressure on requiring this $6500/month to be generated solely by events. In the view of banks and lenders, income from long-term tenants is more reliable than income from a volunteer-run events space. Rationale: In the past month, Omni has advertised via social media having space available for new member collectives and groups. We have fielded inquiries from many interested groups for having long-term space at Omni. Almost all of them expressed a desire for having a secure space (i.e. a room with a door that can lock). Omni currently only has 3 such spaces available that are not adjacent to the ballroom. The rooms adjacent to the ballroom would be more productively used in the service of event production. While Omni has historically wanted to maximize commoning of resources and having open shared spaces, the current needs of potential new member collectives and tenants are not fully aligned with that vision. They are amenable to some shared space, but they tend to want some space that is “theirs”. In order to keep the building, we believe it would be better to “build-to-suit” in the near term, while still retaining the common spaces that are currently being used in the original spirit. The areas we are proposing to build new rooms are currently common spaces that are not being used or are being significantly under-utilized. Details: New Mezzanine room: This room is something we had favorably discussed building for the PLP when they were looking for new space. We would build one wall with a door across the area that is currently storing the library books and shelving. We would also install operable plexiglass windows, so that the occupant of this room can have more sonic privacy or get greater airflow from the entrance hall. This room would be approximately 500 sq ft, and would “rent” for between $600/month (which would be a very generous rate) to upwards of $1500/month, while still being below market rate. Estimated cost: $3000 – the majority would relate to the materials and labor for installing the windows. New Basement room: This room would be 400 sq ft., twice as large as the existing basement offices. It would be built abutting the former FYE space and the rear of the space would be the south wall of the basement. We would only need to build two walls and install a door. We would likely have to install minimal electrical outlets, as the room would have use of the outlets installed last summer. We may need to install electrical outlets along the west wall of the basement to provide convenient power to the sewing area, which would be relocated there, between the door to go upstairs to Sudo Room and the storage area for The Free Store. When evaluating the space at Omni for potential enclosure, we focused on areas of the building that were currently unused / under-utilized. The existing “media lab” was one of those spaces, apart from the sewing area. The rest of the media lab would be dismantled. Omni members and collectives would have first “dibs” on items they want to relocate to their spaces. Any remaining supplies, furniture, and equipment would be donated to local schools, arts education programs, other community groups, or the East Bay Depot for Creative Reuse down the street whose mission is supplying the community with donated arts and crafts supplies. Estimated cost: $4000 - labor and material for building two walls (including drywall), installing a door that locks, and some electrical work.

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