On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 1:06 AM, Soenke <soenkeveirls(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok.
> For the record...
> If this is how you all are going to conduct ourselves, and treat each other,
> I don't really want to be a part of it anymore.
> This is absurd.
> I thought we were trying to be better people here.
> But I suppose I was wrong.
>
> Extremely sarcastically, I apologize for speaking up.
>
> Have a good weekend everyone.
Hey Korl, with nothing but respect, I was just trying to express
solidarity with Ryan without making it about you. To me this is about
having a safe space where people aren't assaulted or misgendered.
There is nothing personal against you here. I hope you can learn to
see that.
Sudoroom's values that we agreed on way back in 2011 include "safe
space over ideology". Omni's values clearly say that we center the
perspectives and prioritize the needs of survivors of assault, and of
trans people struggling against transphobia. Our safer space policy
says that we "prioritizes marginalized people’s safety over privileged
people’s comfort."
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Articles_of_Associationhttps://omnicommons.org/wiki/Statement_of_Solidarityhttps://omnicommons.org/wiki/Safer_Space_Policy
I think the best thing our community can do right now is show support
for Ryan in this moment. I'm sad that we are getting distracted by
other things. Policy details have their place, but not if it just
multiplies the trauma of assault with the additional trauma of not
being fully and unambiguously supported by your community when it
happens.
At the risk of continuing a heated thread, I must repeat this: I don't
find Ryan's tone offensive our uncalled for. Ryan is speaking from a
place of vulnerability and immediate experience, and I would ask
others who are coming to this from a place of distance, abstraction
and polite discourse to please have more humility, compassion and
forgiveness towards a recent survivor of assault and of multiple axes
of oppression at Omni.
Just two days ago Ryan hosted an "empathetic listening circle" at
Omni. The idea was to be a place for people to open their hearts and
hear each others' raw words. Just listen. Without immediately replying
with advice, redirection, or contradiction. He hosted this because he
really needs that right now, and I believe many of us direly need it
as well.
Can we please have another round of empathetic listening right now,
with priority going to immediate survivors of assault? I believe that
is the key to continuing this conversation respectfully without
shutting it down entirely. Thank you.
A quick note to acknowledge Rayc for enthusiastically accepting a bunch
of stuff I brought in on Thursday (including two Apple TVs, random
packages of nails, screws, molly bolts, an electric drill that works but
is missing a chuck--I have drill bits but have to find them, etc.), and
to David B who accepted a bunch of books and some bowls (may you have
warm foods in your belles!). Also a request: if these things were not
found to be welcome and useful, please let me know. My intent was to
contribute, not to dump.
j.
I just want to point out here, in case anyone hasn't figured it out yet,
that Al Sweigart is trolling us.
Our safe spaces policies and our methods of implementing them have been
working well. Just because someone like Al wants to theorize about a
super-intelligent hyper-evil entity that would take advantage of our
process doesn't mean that we actually have that problem.
Al, you are not part of our community, in the sense of participating in
the space in a positive and caring way. Please stop inserting yourself
into our discussions.
Torrie, for you to be responding to Al's trolling as if he respresents
sudoroom in any way is extremely unfortunate. I encourage you to research
his effects on noisebridge in the past.
thank you
-jake
fwding this to sudo and cdc as well
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Ryan <yandoryn(a)gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 1:59 PM
Subject: Proposed Safe Space Ban: Perry
To: "discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org" <discuss(a)lists.omnicommons.org>, David
Keenan <dkeenan44(a)gmail.com>
Perry, who as far as I know is not affiliated with any collective in the
space, was at the Omni until late last night. He was heavily inebriated and
reeked of alcohol.
In attempting to talk with me, he got incredibly touchy-feely and further
invaded my space, getting so close that I could feel his breath on my skin.
I informed him loudly that touch needs to be consensual in the space and
that he should ask me before touching me. I told him that the safe space
policy is next to the front door and that he should read it. I managed to
get away from him, but he followed me outside.
Ribre (sp?) was outside with her guitar and he sat down next to her,
invaded her space, and tried to strike up a seemingly very uncomfortable
conversation. She told him that whatever he was talking about was something
that he'd have to deal with on his own, not with her, and that she cannot
deal with drunk men, and that they make her unsafe. Instead of ceasing the
conversation, he got closer and tried to tell her that they needed to
continue it.
He continued in this vein for a while longer, until I loudly informed him
that the conversation was not consensual and he needed to stop. He started
to argue with me, however RAYC was able to defuse Perry and lead him away
from the interaction.
I spoke to Kwe and Juul before they left, to make sure I had backup if I
needed to ask Perry to leave the building. Eventually, I was the only
member left in the building, so I asked RAYC to shut down the building for
me, and that I was only comfortable vouching for him and Nicholas. RAYC got
Perry to leave.
I spoke with David Keenan this morning, explaining the situation, and DK
said that he has spoken to Perry in the past about his behaviour,
specifically his behaviour when under the influence of alcohol. I will let
DK speak more to that.
Is anyone aware of a collective that Perry is involved with? In my
conversation with DK, he said that when he spoke to Perry he said he was
with FNB, but was probably lying, as he didn't even know where the kitchen
was. Regardless, I ask that Perry be banned from the Omni, pending
mediation, as his actions clearly violate our safe space policy and he
refused to take action to alter his behaviour.
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 11:28 PM, Ryan <yandoryn(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not a fucking woman, thank you, and when I'm sexually assaulted it
> should also be easy to ban someone.
For the record, Ryan, I think your tone is perfectly justified here.
Hey Omni!
Thank you for hosting us last night! The event went well despite the rain:)
Bad news is my cellphone (iphone4 with painting of woman case) and a small
digital camera all went missing. If you see either one, please let me know.
Thank you!
Kazoo
* I make independent media <http://www.igg.me/at/pn2015>*
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 12:39 PM, David Keenan <dkeenan44(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Found it!
>
> It wasn't in the ticket booth room, but it was lurking darkly betwixt the
> two sets of doubledoors.. sneaky!
>
> thanks all!
> David
>
> On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Cere Misc <cere.misc(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ru just looking for the dolly or the filing cabinet on the dolly? In
>> either case I guess, I remember moving some such device to the ticket booth
>> room for the White Festival event. Hope that helps.
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 12:30 PM, David Keenan <dkeenan44(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I was planning on taking this to Reed Brothers today to rekey so we
>>> could have a safe place to store our important documents and petty cash.
>>>
>>> However as of last night at least, it appears to have disappeared from
>>> the ballroom. I have done a quick walk around the building and asked around
>>> but it cannot be found.
>>>
>>> We really need this and that dolly, too. If someone took it or
>>> repurposed it, can you please let me/us know asap?
>>>
>>> Love,
>>> David
>>>
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>>
>
Hi there,
I'd like to propose a meeting of the new board of directors at Sudo
Room. We need to have a meeting in order to finalize our board
nominations and approve various steps in moving forward with becoming a
federal non profit.
If you are or you believe you are a member of the board please fill out
this poll to find a time to meet.
https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/2015_sudo_board_/
If you have a list of current board members, please share it asap!
All the best ever, April
--
0x54FC570B
Hi everyone,
I was planning on taking this to Reed Brothers today to rekey so we could
have a safe place to store our important documents and petty cash.
However as of last night at least, it appears to have disappeared from the
ballroom. I have done a quick walk around the building and asked around but
it cannot be found.
We really need this and that dolly, too. If someone took it or repurposed
it, can you please let me/us know asap?
Love,
David
Hi all,
I just threw several dozen bottles and cans in the recycling bins. If
someone wants to pick them out and cash them in, feel free!
There's a big blue recycling bin in CCL that I originally bought because
the Fermentation Station said they wanted more bottles. But inevitably, I'm
the one who winds up having to empty and clean that bin every week anyway.
So - IT'S FREE SEASON ON EVERYTHING WITH A CA REFUND VALUE! If the
Fermentation station empties the bin in CCL, that's great. If someone else
wants to come empty it on a regular basis, that's just fine with me too.
Just don't leave a mess for us to deal with afterwards. Please put all
non-refund recyclables in the small recycling bins, and all non-recyclables
in the black trash bin.
Thanks!
Patrik
