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Re: [sudo-discuss] [sudo-announce] forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings

by Art McGee

Greetings, I'm curious, but would not this post have been more appropriate for the sudo-discuss list? I assume you may not be aware of it. As for your specific point about the American Civil War being about states' rights, that just makes me say hummmm... :-\ I'm going to do the Fanonian thing and not shout, since I'm too tired for that anymore, but I will just add that in the opinion of a lot of historians, some of them Anarchists, the "battle for power" between U.S. states and the Federal government is simply that, a battle for power, but it doesn't tell you anything about why the states want that power. It doesn't tell you anything about the motivating factors behind such a long-standing struggle, which, if you're unfamiliar with U.S. history, could lead you to the erroneous conclusion that it's a neutral "freedom" thing. It's not. I think you already know this, but your phrasing triggered my White Supremacy detector, so I had to respond. :-) Oh, and since I've now delurked and am posting on this discuss list, I'll just say that I live in Oakland but haven't as yet made it around to the sudo room in person (I'm hoping to change that in the upcoming year). Art McGee On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:50 AM, aestetix <aestetix(a)aestetix.com> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I've been lurking for a while, but this caught my attention. > Especially given that I recently watched the musical 1776. > > IMHO, we're at a turning point in history. I spent part of this > morning watching the testimony on healthcare.gov, and seeing the > interplay of lawyers and technologists. We seem to be sandwiched > between two paradigms: the NSA/Omnicorp merger from Prism and other > Snowden leaks, and totally unrealistic valuations of companies like > Snapchat, which apparently just turned down a $3 billion cash > acquisition offer from Facebook. That spells out a damned if you do, > damned if you don't scenario. > > The one common theme we've seen through the history of the US is the > battle for power between State and Federal governments. This is what > the Civil War was *really* about, why laws like the Civil Rights Act > of 1965 are so important, and why the most recent government shut-down > happened. And inherent to this power battle, for which there is no > "better" side, is the will of the people. How do we overcome the > tragedy of the commons enough to build a system that generally, kind > of sort of works? > > It's hard to practice what one preaches if there's no cost. For > example, it's easy to use Google/etc, until the government subpoenas > your email and search history and uses that as evidence (hidden via > State Secrets) to throw you in jail. I speak on this with several > friends who are either in jail or dead because of bad laws, and many > more who have been harassed, detained, in most cases for doing nothing > more than dissenting. > > This is why I agree strongly with Eddan about the notion of > neutrality. I haven't kept up with sudo room as much lately, partly > because I don't have the time/energy to engage in some of the > transitions that were going on. I'm beginning to get to a point where > I can re-engage with people working on projects tackling these kinds > of issues. I suppose we shall see what happens. > > Back into the woodwork, > aestetix > > - --- > > I've often thought of Sudo Room a little bit like the District of > Columbia. and Rachel's subject for her email reminded me of that. > > It is often forgotten that there was a first constitution of the > United States after Independence before the one that people call the > Constitution. It was called the Confederacy of States. The nation's > capital was in Philadelphia and through a series of events ended up > moving to a newly formed neutral district - that we all know now as DC. > > It wasn't just a series of events, but a structural flaw in the > Confederacy that doomed itself. As James Madison wrote in Federalist > 43, "We have seen the inconvenience of this omission, and the > assumption of power into which Congress have been led by it. With > great propriety, therefore, has the new system supplied the defect. > The general precaution, that no new States shall be formed, without > the concurrence of the federal authority, and that of the States > concerned, is consonant to the principles which ought to govern such > transactions." > > As population grew and the country was further colonized by the > European settlers, the creation of new states turned into a disuniting > disaster. Different coalitions of states banded together to promote > their collective interest at the expense of others. Those states > excluded formed their own alliances and there were many cries of > treason thrown around back and forth. Each cluster thought of > themselves as the "us" and the others as the "them" until the "them" > became the "us" and the "us" was "them". And so on. > > So while New York, New Jersey, Virginia, Maryland - all wanted the new > federal seat of power in their states, a deal was struck to create a > district that didn't belong to any particular state. They all wanted > to have the center of the nation's power in their territories. And > this is how we got in Article 1, Section 8 of the US Constitution, the > provision saying: > > "To exercise exclusive legislation, in all cases whatsoever, over such > district (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of > particular States and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of > the government of the United States; and to exercise like authority > over all places purchased by the consent of the legislatures of the > States in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, > magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings." > > I'm not sure we need forts and magazines and arsenals and such, but I > still think we need a neutral center so that no particular cluster > confuses themselves as being what constitutes Sudo Room. Only when the > country adopted a political structure that transformed the "us" and > "them" into we - did the agreement amongst them create stability and > mutual respect that made them united states. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.19 (Darwin) > Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSg9gZAAoJEOrRfDwkjbpTzNYIALdkLYpUOINBMdaoTgyfv5+d > 4mL38CWysMiceiA8AqMXUStiZOsp4aEiOgsYnSOrookSdnQbVbxPD10keH+0P4Jm > 7es9ibfvk5PT/Bj5IThB9pSsUpS3coeVVmOHScYnPVQzPGihIMpcMGcLaNpviZBE > BE9IOpK5EcBpgBh25mVqIFp6nJisuOq1mTgwAjHoZUOb+VxKbSLoCPaEVcHkpgVL > cvdMJSCSrk1rZVkTA0oWfMW57NRQY47z7e+tXm5xvkJXvJA2mYbcOgaQssnRqp0/ > wspCWOdP4ior8xvaQE7KrUQvj3JxbLOY8I92UhXC3Sj29BXw7xy3i08hoLUg6kY= > =42g2 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > sudo-announce mailing list > sudo-announce(a)lists.sudoroom.org > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-announce >

11 years, 10 months

Waste Management billz

by David Keenan

https://www.wm.com/myaccount/ account | amt 00012-86938-43003 | Amount: $224.28 00012-87014-63003 | Amount: $71.80 Total paid: $296.08 Confirmation Number: 69784810329 As I mentioned to some of you, I've paid for combined garbage and recycling for SUDO and BAPS from 9/15 til now. Basically I consider this my membership dues to each respective group for the past three months - essentially, ~$50/group/mo since Sept. or however that works out. I thought just paying this for SUDO and BAPS might kill two birds with one stone dues-wise, but going forward it's obviously way less confusing to have SUDO to take over the wm.com account and bill BAPS, and I'll just pay dues to each group like everyone else... Re: the wm.com login, I sent Matt this info a while ago, but at this point I'd like to change out the bound email address from my personal email to a generic sudoroom email (or at any rate, some other email) that sudo and baps can both check. Can someone volunteer a sudoroom or other email SUDO and BAPS can share for this purpose? Thanks, David

11 years, 10 months

Proposal: Juice Party Instead of Board Approvals Tomorrow

by Max Klein

Hello sudolings, Well, I don't know about you but I've been really anxious and tense lately about approving the Board. I've been hearing some closed door discussions about who should or shouldn't be on Board and it's been stressing me out. BUT there's no rush *we still have 82 days* to elect our Board. It's not the sudo spirit to make decisions under stress and possibly in a way that will split the community. I have faith that with more time this will ease. The huge irony is that everything I hear behind closed doors is the same. If you could see this from "God-mode", there wouldn't be any conflicts. And we have the luxury of being sudo-humans that don't get mired and stuck in that old-model politicking. We are deeply-introspective, ego-dissolvers, and cosmic-harmonizers. So here's the proposal: every body bring* 3 pieces of fruit* tomorrow to the meeting and somebody bring a juicer. And when it comes time to approve the board instead we will table it for a week and will just juice the juice 20 minutes. What do you think? Juicily yours and without confusion Notconfusing aka Max Klein +17074787023

11 years, 10 months

[consensus] Nominations for Board of Directors

by Jenny Ryan

Or, alternatively as suggested last night, Board of Those With Little Power and Great Responsibility (or something to that effect :) The following is a list of those who've accepted nomination to the board, and those who've been nominated but have yet to accept or decline: - Accepted: Max, Jenny, Naomi, Anca, Hol, Vicky [tentative], Marc, Matt, Luciano, Troy - Nominated: Rhodey, Marina, Liberty [tentative accept], JC, Len, Romy, Ryan B, Julio, Vian, Shake, Mitch, Brendan, Morten, Faust Please reply to this thread publicly or privately if you've been nominated but have yet to accept or decline. *At next week's meeting, we will go through and consent on each nominee. Those participating via the mailing list have one week to block any of the current nominations.* What's required of a board member? - the risks, not many risks if you are not paid - the only thing we have to worry about is if sudo room doesn't pay taxes then the treasurer will be liable for taxes - also board has responsibility to send in a document once a year to sacramento - not liable if sudo room goes into debt (except treasurer) <3 Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

11 years, 10 months

THIS THURS: Beehive Collective presents their new mural "Mesoamerica Resiste!"

by Jake

learn about the ongoing plan to "develop" latin america for the benefit of the wealthy at the expense of the people and the environment: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:31:31 -0800 From: Sakura Saunders <sakura.saunders(a)gmail.com> Subject: THIS THURS: Beehive Collective presents their new mural "Mesoamerica Resiste!" WHAT: "Mesoamérica Resiste!" graphic story-telling about resistance to neo-colonialism and mega-projects in Mexico and Central America WHEN: Thurs, Nov. 14 6:30pm WHERE: 2135 Broadway, downtown Oakland WHO: Beehive Design Collective: beehivecollective.org MESOAMÉRICA RESISTE is the long awaited final instalment in the Beehive’s graphic trilogy about globalization in the Americas! This collaboratively produced educational illustration was created through an intensive process of grassroots research that started in 2004, when an initial team from the US, Canada, and Mexico traveled together from Mexico to Panama to meet with communities organizing against the mega-infrastructure projects of a regional integration plan then known as Plan Puebla Panama. 9 years in the making, the Mesoamérica Resiste graphic reflects the Beehive’s efforts to document and share diverse stories of communities defending their sovereignty and building alternatives to top-down development plans - especially organizing led by Indigenous peoples, who have fought back against colonialism and genocide for centuries. The Beehive Design Collective is a wildly-motivated, all volunteer, activist-art collective dedicated to “cross-pollinating the grassroots” by creating collaborative, anti-copyright images for use as educational and organizing tools. We work anonymously as word-to-image translators of complex global stories, gathered and shared through first hand conversations with affected communities.

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SEE YOU SOON- SERGIO

by Sergio Racanati

Dear all sudo room, I thank you warmly for the availability given in my comparisons, for their kindness and for taking grnade hospitality and a great sense of community. I spent the beautiful day by sudo room. We expect in Italy. My email is: UTOPIARACANATI(a)GMAIL.COM SKYPE: UTOPIA.RACANATI CELL. (EUROPEAN) 0039 3405476497 FACEBOOK: SERGIO Racanati (The icond ADI is Facebbok A SCULPTURE MADE OF MANY COLORED WITH A FOUNTAIN LED). SEE YOU SOON WITH LOVE Sergio.

11 years, 10 months

Spectral Response Curves

by Peter Kwangjun Suk

(Also posted to Noisebridge. Skip if you are experiencing deja-vu.) Hello, Right now, I'm doing research for a specialized app to let consumers validate products that can be used to treat insomnia. Specifically, I'm working on a smartphone app that can act like a light detector for light in a narrow band around 470 nanometers. This is the frequency that has been shown to suppress melatonin secretion by the pineal gland. There are specialty products for avoiding late night 470 nanometer light exposure (light bulbs, screen overlays, glasses) but these are often very overpriced, and there is no convenient way to validate them. There are also "ordinary" products that serve the same purpose, but there is no good way for people to accurately test them. Currently, people can use a CD or DVD as an ad-hoc diffraction grating and look at the resulting spectrum, but even this isn't quite good enough. I've bought a narrow bandpass filter for 470nm light, and even products that have a spectrum that "looks good" (very little blue) can have hot-spots that leak large amounts of 470nm light, and it doesn't take much to suppress melatonin. (As low as 0.5 lux for prolonged exposures.) Looking generally at spectral response curves for digital cameras, it should be possible to "synthesize" a narrow band detector by taking the blue channel response and subtracting the red channel value. http://www.maxmax.com/images/Cameras/Technical/NikonD200_SpectralResponse.j… This should effectively produce a "synthetic" instrument that has a spectral response curve that would be the camera's blue response, minus its red response. Even more helpful, the user should be able to view a synthesized narrowband image of the product, to be able to spot leaks and hot spots. What I need: I would like help in scientifically measuring the spectral response curve of the "synthetic instrument." I already have a (tiny) 470nm filter from Thorlabs, and I'm already aware of Public Lab's DIY spectroscope. I would like to use more accurate equipment, however. It is important that I can provide accurate information about the performance of the app and use rigorous procedures for measurement so that users know they can rely on the instrument. Does anyone have the expertise and access to equipment to help me out? --SCZ -- There's neither heaven nor hell, save what we grant ourselves. There's neither fairness nor justice, save what we grant each other.

11 years, 10 months

contribute to the hackidemia book "little makers" about making & education

by Marina Kukso

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/19USoHltLaqvn6C2eAlpqvy7u1XtAfW8JRgUr-oeH2s… - marina

11 years, 10 months

online civic debate facilitation tools?

by Marina Kukso

hey all, do any of you know of any useful tools for facilitating a civic debate (something like a presidential debate) online? http://backchan.nl/ would be good for submitting q's...but backchan.nl + google hangouts seems...not the best? any tips would be helpful. - marina

11 years, 10 months

Reminder: Tmrw (11/13) Consenting on Nominations for Board of Directors at Meeting

by Marina Kukso

just a reminder. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jenny Ryan <tunabananas(a)gmail.com> Date: Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:49 PM Subject: [sudo-discuss] [consensus] Nominations for Board of Directors To: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> Or, alternatively as suggested last night, Board of Those With Little Power and Great Responsibility (or something to that effect :) The following is a list of those who've accepted nomination to the board, and those who've been nominated but have yet to accept or decline: - Accepted: Max, Jenny, Naomi, Anca, Hol, Vicky [tentative], Marc, Matt, Luciano, Troy - Nominated: Rhodey, Marina, Liberty [tentative accept], JC, Len, Romy, Ryan B, Julio, Vian, Shake, Mitch, Brendan, Morten, Faust Please reply to this thread publicly or privately if you've been nominated but have yet to accept or decline. *At next week's meeting, we will go through and consent on each nominee. Those participating via the mailing list have one week to block any of the current nominations.* What's required of a board member? - the risks, not many risks if you are not paid - the only thing we have to worry about is if sudo room doesn't pay taxes then the treasurer will be liable for taxes - also board has responsibility to send in a document once a year to sacramento - not liable if sudo room goes into debt (except treasurer) <3 Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss

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