- sudo-discuss - sudoroom.org

by Jake

brendan and I have been working on a python program to pretend to be the disk drive of the robot (which connects to it over serial) the hope is to be able to save and load programs from the robot to a normal computer, like the 3d printer (to which it is presently attached) i hooked up a logic analyzer to spy on the conversation between the robot and its disk drive, and the results are here: http://spaz.org/~jake/robot/floppy-loadafile.logicdata there are other .logicdata files in there too, some don't have the session configured to decode the serial data (4800 baud, EVEN parity, inverted) you can read the analyzed data with Salae Logic, a free download. OR just read the python program we wrote: https://github.com/jerkey/yasnac/blob/master/src/engine.py on line 36 we answer the robot's request to LST the files by sending the following text: (in the program it's constructed from two strings) "\x02\x13\x00LST0001123.JBI \x00\xfc" this works (the robot responds with ACK) but it we change ANYTHING it doesn't like it and says NAK NAK NAK i thought the last byte would be a checksum, but the whole thing does NOT add up to something divisible by 256, and furthermore if I change the file name (123.JBI) to 124.JBI AND change the last \xfc to \xfb, it fails - which means it is not using a simple checksum (right?) help figure this out! we need to be able to send the robot arbitrary filenames and have it accept the packet (and then we can start sending the program data) -jake

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Re: [sudo-discuss] [omnilogistics] Stage Lights from CR Event

by Danny Spitzberg

I'll be there at around 1pm and can help as much as I can... any clues/descriptions of the lights/boxes? On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:59 AM, <niki.shelley(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey friends!! > > I haven't heard anything from anyone re: the stage lights that CR rented > that > have gone missing. > > Will someone be at the Omni today who can help Jess locate them? > > She will be there in an hour (I am stuck working in SF so can't be there). > > N >

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Latin America Tech Meetup Inaugural Event

by Mitch Altman

SF: Latin America Tech Meetup Inaugural Event Tuesday, September 23, 6:30pm to 9:30pm Featuring several interesting tech folk. FREE WeWork Golden Gate, 25 Taylor St. https://www.eventbrite.com/e/latin-america-tech-meetup-inaugural-event-sf-t…

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IndieBio SF launch and BIohacker Demo day this Tues

by Ryan Bethencourt

Hi All, Please find attached an invitation to all the local biohacker groups from Arvind at SOS ventures. If you'd like to come, you're welcome to! All the best, Ryan ======Event Description======= The biotech revolution is here. For the last 3 months we have been accelerating 6 companies in the worlds first synthetic biotech accelerator, SynBio axlr8r. Each with a development and release timeline more on par with software than traditional bio/pharma thanks to recent advances in Synthetic Biology. These six new synthetic biology companies are gearing up to launch their products that are largely made by designing the metabolic pathways of biological systems to make medically, commercially and industrially valuable substances. They include bullet-proof silk sequenced from hagfish, synthetic cannabinoids for medical purposes, civet-free high end coffee, cow milk brewed from yeast, desk-top DNA printers, and petunias that change color according to human design. I would like to invite you to attend the inaugural demo day this September 23 at Runway.is in San Francisco, CA ========Team Links========== http://muufri.com http://revolutionbio.co http://hyasynthbio.com http://benthiclabs.com http://afineur.com http://kilobaser.com ===========RSVP=========== 1500: Registration 1530: Keynote 1600: Company Pitches 1700: Cocktail & Reception http://sfsynbiodemo.eventbrite.com -- Ryan Bethencourt Tel: (415) 825 2705 Conf. Dial in number: 585-632-6294 PIN: 48429 ryan.bethencourt(a)gmail.com *@ryanbethencourt* -- Ryan Bethencourt Tel: (415) 825 2705 Conf. Dial in number: 585-632-6294 PIN: 48429 ryan.bethencourt(a)gmail.com *@ryanbethencourt*

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Gr33tz!

by Reverend Doctor Proxy

Hallo Internets, It's Proxy from HackMiami and I just landed in SF! If anyone would be cool enough to spare a couch for a few days it would be greatly appreciated. I'm going to be in SF for a couple weeks but only need a couch for a couple days. Either way, I'm new to Cali and would like to meet some like-minded folks. See ya on the flip-side. -- Cheers, Rev. Dr. Proxy www.hackmiami.org www.hackmiami.com www.twitter.com/revdrproxy

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Re: [sudo-discuss] Proposal for temporary tenant in one basement office

by yar

On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com> wrote: > $400/mo plus free labor for a 3 month commitment seems more than fair. I > think the main sticking point would be the request not to rent out the other > two rooms, because that significantly affects our flexibility to accept > other tenants. > > We could agree not to rent out just the center room, for example. Or we > could build in a clause that reduces the rent of one or both of the other > rooms get rented. I just want to say at this point that I'm entirely on Team Rent-Out-The-Ballroom, and very unenthusiastic about full-time leases for small room unless they will be curated by rad participatory omni collectives. So I really like this OMP proposal and I think the mandate to keep those rooms common/shared/schedulable is actually a huge plus. Time-based over space-based multiplexing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-division_multiplexing In fact, maybe we should just rename our building the Multiplex, or Mux for short. :)

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sky light replacement

by brendan

sudo, dude is coming at 8 am tomorrow (monday morning, september 22) to install new glass in the skylights. The installer is prepared with tarps, etc., but would appreciate it if people at CCL would move their delicate / electronic / sensitive/ whatever equipment at least to under the tables they are currently on. they are planning to do the three big skylights directly over CCL and the area between sudo and CCL… Not sure who to contact about this directly, could use some input. brenda

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MISSING: Stage lights from last night's CR event

by niki

Critical Resistance rented stage lights for last night's event and they have gone missing! Has anyone seen them / moved them? Can you please let me know where they are, if so? They need to return them tomorrow! Niki

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yoga at 4:30 from now on!

by Noemie Serfaty

Hello there Yoga for hackers, geeks of all types and other humans with big hearts, empty wallets and tight shoulders is now happening at 4:30 on sundays at omni! Hoping to see you there :) noémie -- Noémie Serfaty 108 rue du Faubourg du Temple 75011 Paris Tel: 06 27 76 88 84 Tel: 01 71 50 51 82 noemieserfaty(a)gmail.com

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Fwd: okcupid fail (fwd)

by Jenny Ryan

My bad! I will be better moving forward! - This entire thread inspired by a ramble re: the utility of OKCupid for recruiting newbs! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> Date: Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] okcupid fail (fwd) To: Jenny Ryan SF <Tunabananas(a)gmail.com> oops!!! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 19:07:34 -0700 From: Max B <maxb.personal(a)gmail.com> To: Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> Cc: "sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] okcupid fail You signed up with info(a)sudomesh.org which forwards to me and is a project I'm deeply involved in. On September 20, 2014 7:03:46 PM PDT, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote: it's called outreachh, even if its done drunk at a party. yeah maybe OKStupid is the wrong venue but we didn't put your name on it. -jake On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, max b wrote: Can we not involve sudo in a collective trolling session? Do whatever you want on your own, but please leave the rest of us out of this. On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote: so they didn't like our picture of RMS holding his laptop, lovingly. i can't fucking believe someone flagged this picture! http://www.mladina.si/media/www/slike/2012/19/__610/vint- richard-stallma_1.jpg what should we put next? IMPORTANT: One of your Pictures has been removed. Hi from OkCupid. One of your photos was flagged by OkCupid users for being inappropriate. After being reviewed and voted on by our moderators the consensus was to remove the photo. The most common reasons for picture removal are: 1. The picture doesn't have YOU in it. 2. Copyrighted material 3. Extreme closeups 4. Non-photos or photos of pets, children, etc. 5. Celebrity/fake uploads 6. Disgusting stuff that scars us 7. Porn or nudity As a rule of thumb, upload only photos of yourself (your pets, children, and artwork belong elsewhere), and make sure your face or body (not your tattoo or eyeball) is chosen with the thumbnail selector. Remember, OkCupid is free, so please obey good etiquette and try to positively impact the community. If you repeatedly get items deleted via this process your account will be deleted as well. OkCupid ____________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss

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yasnac API

by brendan

I’m going to start writing a python script to handle the YASNAC communications protocol. once I make some progress, i’ll update the list with my repo. If anybody is interested in collaborating on this project, I think I would eventually like to make a web API to control the arm remotely. Please don’t hesitate to contact me directly with any thoughts or contributions. brendan

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Fwd: [omnilogistics] skylights

by Patrik D'haeseleer

"The existing vents on 3,4,5,6 will be kept, allowing OOC to later install exhaust fans if desired." Sounds promising... Patrik ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Omni Commons <4799shattuck(a)gmail.com> Date: Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 11:15 PM Subject: [omnilogistics] skylights To: omnilogistics(a)lists.riseup.net Hey folks in the Bocce Ball Room (CCL and Sudo), John is having the skylights repaired starting tuesday! There are 6 skylights to replace. Bellow are his remarks on what will be happening... This is the procedure: - Number the skylights * 6 2* * 4 3* * 5 1 [dressing room #1]* - Tuesday 1 & 2 will be worked on. Ricky doesn't think anything will drop below. As a precaution of course please vacate that area. Ricky will put down tarps. - Next 3,4 then 5,6 on other days. The schedule is somewhat flexible. Possibly #1 can be worked on in the morning, then #2 in the afternoon to make a smaller disruption footprint. Possibly it will go faster. The existing vents on 3,4,5,6 will be kept, allowing OOC to later install exhaust fans if desired. The replacement panels will be laminated glass. Let me know if you have more questions for him. x m

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okcupid fail

by Jake

so they didn't like our picture of RMS holding his laptop, lovingly. i can't fucking believe someone flagged this picture! http://www.mladina.si/media/www/slike/2012/19/__610/vint-richard-stallma_1.… what should we put next? IMPORTANT: One of your Pictures has been removed. Hi from OkCupid. One of your photos was flagged by OkCupid users for being inappropriate. After being reviewed and voted on by our moderators the consensus was to remove the photo. The most common reasons for picture removal are: 1. The picture doesn't have YOU in it. 2. Copyrighted material 3. Extreme closeups 4. Non-photos or photos of pets, children, etc. 5. Celebrity/fake uploads 6. Disgusting stuff that scars us 7. Porn or nudity As a rule of thumb, upload only photos of yourself (your pets, children, and artwork belong elsewhere), and make sure your face or body (not your tattoo or eyeball) is chosen with the thumbnail selector. Remember, OkCupid is free, so please obey good etiquette and try to positively impact the community. If you repeatedly get items deleted via this process your account will be deleted as well. OkCupid

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Meeting Minutes 9/17

by Jenny Ryan

Sorry for the lag! tl;dr: * Two new members up for extended pondering! ** Niki: What hack? Wants to play with the robot, in a choreographed dance; already programmed one dance! Gonna repair all her broken macbook chargers. What share? Wants to share baked good. ** Patrick: What hack? Horticulturalist, wants to hack open hardware, water use, radiation stuf. What share? Can share horti skills. interested in tissue culture. rooted our mate baby. * Please join Omni working groups! http://wiki.omni-oakland.org/w/Working_Groups * Be a sudo delegate! Current delegates: Yar, Jenny, Matt, Patrick (shadowing Yar), and Korl (also in training :) * NOTICE: Ground floor kitchen will be going away soon. Please help Food Not Bombs upgrade the basement kitchen, also a new kitchen will be opening up on the second floor starting October 1st. * CONSENSUS ITEMS: ** TIL splitting into TIL and a community print collective: concerns expressed about extent of space requested (2/3 of sudo size for less than 1/3 the price); public accessibility (currently one day a week and cost for use); interested sudoers should join the print collective and help shape it to be as commons-oriented as we can! ** Sound equipment proposal: Sudo counter-proposes that the green room above the stage be the dedicated sound equipment room (it's already set up as such) ** PA proposal: Sudoer Ed has a PA he will donate to Omni! ** Ballroom Events: All omni ballroom events that need the space dedicated should apply here https://dochttps://pad.riseup.net/p/sudomtgs.google.com/forms/d/1w_PYdVScDq… Please join the ballroom working group (meets Wednesdays from 6-8) to help with deciding on and scheduling events in the ballroom! ** Working Group Autonomy: Sudo suggests that the Facilitating Collectivity working group decide what WGs are autonomously empowered to do. ** Occupy Oakland 3rd Anniversary: "Sudoroom formally requests that the urban shield event on the 3rd anniversary of occupy oakland be offered the ballroom instead of the basement." * NEWBIE NIGHT: Alex is hosting this coming Tuesday, the 23rd. * CHECK YOUR GITTIP ACCOUNTS!! - We went down another $40 this past week. * SPACE IMPROVEMENTS: ** Contact Whitney or Sean to help with electrification of sudo - namely, bending and running conduit! ** Floorplan: Contact Korl to help with rearranging sudo space - namely, building a catwalk on top of our shelves for modular second-level units. Also: pulley platforms with plants on them underneath the skylights! ** Lighting: Contact Noemie who has a plan for improving our lighting situation! ** Fire Inspection: We'll need to remove burnables, store them under the stage or paint them. Also piles of stuff need to be shelved and organized. Tape notes to objects that need to move / change * SLEEPING: "All of our expectations of members' behavior within Sudoroom also apply in spirit to the common areas around Sudoroom. Doing something in the common areas such as sleeping does not exempt you from our Articles of Association. https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association" <https://dochttps://pad.riseup.net/p/sudomtgs.google.com/forms/d/1w_PYdVScDq…> Recorded for posterity at: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2014-09-17 Love! Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

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Grinding floors in CCL Saturday?

by Patrik D'haeseleer

Hi all, I have an unexpected chunk of free time on Saturday, and I was hoping to use it to start prepping the floors in CCL. Should be done well before the CR event at 6pm. I'm not planning to use a heavy-duty grinder, just a concrete prep tool like this <http://www6.homedepot.com/tool-truck-rental/Concrete_Prep_Tool/12570/>. I've never used one of these, but I would still expect it to make a substantial amount of noise - at a minimum like running a high-powered vacuum for a couple of hours. I may try to cut down on dust by running it wet, if that is an option. I know this is short notice, but I hope we can make it work - the floors are the #1 obstacle holding up progress getting our lab up and running right now, and there's just not that many times I can carve out a big chunk of time. It would be good if someone can check this with John as well, since we'll be making noise right underneath him... Thanks! Patrik

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Freedom Archives Search Engine

by Romy＠snowyla

Black panther periodicals now online ! http://search.freedomarchives.org/search.php?view_collection=90 Sent from my iPhone

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Omni buy CR tickets for 10-hr-day volunteers?

by David Keenan

Hi all, I realized that for certain people who have been consistently working very, very, very hard on the ADA & Fire Prev. infrastructure and ballroom almost every day the last few weeks specifically in preparation for the CR event, that its important these folks all have a chance to actually see and feel their hard work come to fruition and even $15 may be too much. Therefore I would like to propose an ultra late breaking request that the following people have Omni buy their ticket, if they want to go: - Benjamin Burke (sudo) - Oskar (omni) - TJ (sudo) - Sean (sudo) - Maximillian (FNB) - Yar (sudo) MANY of us have been working very hard on the ballroom, but these folks above really have put in crazy hours for weeks straight now. I do not mean to discount in any way the hard work of everyone.. I just feel like the above folks have really gone just so far above and beyond, that their effort needs to be recognized and this would be a very good way to do it. This sort of selfless support is so admirable and inspiring and cant be taken for granted - Yes, I am also too broke to go, but it feels weird asking for myself obviously. Itd be nice though and i really wish i could. Anyhow If its okay with people id like to ask these folks get their ticket from omni. Would that be okay? David

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Re: [sudo-discuss] Replacing Sudo/CCL skylights next week

by Jake

i am worried that the fans that are in the ceiling now will be removed, and we will no longer have the option of attaching long ducts to them for localized air/fume extraction. is there some way we can request that the fans remain there somehow? or some way to ventilate air out of the room? I think this is really important. -jake yar said: John the landlord just came through Sudo & CCL with a couple roofing contractors. He is going to pay to replace all the skylights in CCL & Sudo next week. We have six. They expect to replace two per day on Tuesday (23), Wednesday (24) and Thursday (25), moving from north to south. Work may extend into Friday. They are requesting that we clear the areas underneath so they can lay tarps and avoid death/destruction/mayhem. So that means: On Tuesday, CCL should push stuff towards Sudo On Wednesday, CCL & Sudo should clear stuff from the middle On Thursday, Sudo should push stuff towards CCL We don't have to move everything, they can lay tarps over things and figure out how to work around, but we will certainly want to move some stuff. The new skylights won't be bubbles, but will be flat safety glass. A contractor told me "a person could walk on one". So this will be great once we get roof access. Also if we ever see rain again. Sorry for cross-posting to so many lists. Please remove lists from your reply as necessary. :)

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Chicago to the Bay

by Alice Rosenthal

Anyone on this list know anyone traveling from Chicago to the bay area who could be trusted to transport a CNC kit as carry-on baggage? Please let me know. Thanks Alice BeeHappySolutions Berkeley, CA 94703 415-272-0596

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network static IP and questions

by Jake

i'm reading the wiki page but i don't see how to set up a static IP address https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Network i see that static IP addresses are below .42.50 can i just set up something to take that address and it will be fine? I don't have to set it up somewhere else? also.. i noticed that none of the stuff in the internet factory upstairs is labeled - it's just wires going here and there that you have to follow. is anyone planning on labeling that stuff? thanks -jake

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Things Doer Available Most of Tomorrow

by Ben Burke

Hello List, I am available tomorrow morning (Friday 9/19/14) after 9 to help do whatever kinda things need doing (incl. manual labor) around the Omni. How can I help? Ben

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Replacing Sudo/CCL skylights next week

by yar

John the landlord just came through Sudo & CCL with a couple roofing contractors. He is going to pay to replace all the skylights in CCL & Sudo next week. We have six. They expect to replace two per day on Tuesday (23), Wednesday (24) and Thursday (25), moving from north to south. Work may extend into Friday. They are requesting that we clear the areas underneath so they can lay tarps and avoid death/destruction/mayhem. So that means: On Tuesday, CCL should push stuff towards Sudo On Wednesday, CCL & Sudo should clear stuff from the middle On Thursday, Sudo should push stuff towards CCL We don't have to move everything, they can lay tarps over things and figure out how to work around, but we will certainly want to move some stuff. The new skylights won't be bubbles, but will be flat safety glass. A contractor told me "a person could walk on one". So this will be great once we get roof access. Also if we ever see rain again. Sorry for cross-posting to so many lists. Please remove lists from your reply as necessary. :)

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robot reading a file from disk - serial conversation eavesdropping

by Jake

the robot has an external disk drive which is connected to it with a 25-pin serial cable. The disk drive unit is a computer in itself, with a lot of functionality. It boots up in "ERC MODE" meaning it's ready to talk to the YASNAC ERC, our robot control computer. i spied on the conversation between the robot and the disk drive while the robot loaded a file. I saved the conversation using the salae logic program: https://www.saleae.com/downloads if you run this program you can open the save file i saved: http://spaz.org/~jake/robot/floppy-loadafile.logicdata you will see that the format matches closely that which is described by the communications manual: http://spaz.org/~jake/robot/479236-17-Communications.pdf the baud rate is 4800 baud, 8 data bits, 1 stop bit, EVEN parity. it's connected to the 3d printer computer if you want to write a program to pretend to be a disk drive. then we can send it programs without having to use ancient floppy diskettes. to talk to it from that computer (whose IP address is .42.8) just run a script called "robot" in ~sudodesk/bin/robot it calls screen /dev/ttyS0 4800,parenb,-parodd (that's how you get even parity with screen) when i open that terminal, and then go to the floppy menu from the robot, it sends the following (? means unprintable character): ENQ?ENQ?ENQ?CAN+?CAN+?CAN+?EOT? which means, probably; HEY ARE YOU THERE? HEY ARE YOU THERE? HEY ARE YOU THERE? NEVER MIND. NEVER MIND. NEVER MIND. I'M HANGING UP NOW. see if you can get the robot to load a file from an imaginary disk drive. -jake

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*** Noisebridge REMIX *** Oct 4th -- Call for ART, Music, Performance, Demos

by Naomi Most

Greetings, Noisebridge and friends, With the Reboot process behind us, the REMIX now begins. We're calling out to friends old and new to come celebrate our hard-won ability to **create anew** in the month in which Noisebridge first moved into its first physical space in 2008. "One Art, Please!" If you can volunteer art, music, performance, blinkenlights, 3D printed trinkets -- or if you have any cool ideas to share about the concept of "REMIX" -- email us by replying to this email or chatting us up on Slack in the #reboot channel. Much love, Naomi -- Naomi Theora Most naomi(a)nthmost.com +1-415-728-7490 skype: nthmost http://twitter.com/nthmost

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Artist as Activist | Robert Rauschenberg Foundation

by Romy＠snowyla

Artist activist grants! http://www.rauschenbergfoundation.org/grants/art-grants/artist-activist Artist as Activist Program Overview Artist as Activist provides game-changing resources to artists (of all disciplines – visual, performing, media, and beyond), designers, and other creative professionals who are addressing important global challenges through their creative practice. In years past this support has included a commissioned print edition to benefit a particular cause or organization. Today the Artist as Activist program is comprised of three distinct grant opportunities: Artist as Activist Fellows: artists and legally established art collectives with a demonstrated commitment to applying their creative work to the public sphere will receive up to $100,000 over two years, along with a suite of value-added support. Fellows will be selected through an open call for proposals. Artist as Activist Travel & Research Grants: a separate pool of funds has been reserved for similar artists seeking support (ranging from $2,500 to $10,000) to travel or conduct research related to this aspect of their work. Travel/Research grantees will be selected through an open call for proposals. Artist as Activist Organizations: Ten organizations from across the U.S. that have been exemplars in supporting artists working at the intersection of art and change will receive general operating support. These organizational grants are by invitation only. Program Values and Beliefs Consistent with our commitment to upholding the legacy of our founder, Robert Rauschenberg, all of RRF’s philanthropy programs operate with a set of core values that embody his work as both an artist and a philanthropist. These values include experimentation, fearlessness, and pushing boundaries. Rauschenberg also sought to learn from other cultures, and to share his own knowledge in exchange for what he learned. The Artist as Activist program retains this approach with a particular focus on: Creative problem-solving and solutions orientation – looking at an issue in new ways that actually shift its paradigm. Interdisciplinary collaboration – experience and enthusiasm for working with people who have a variety of expertise, experience, and training, as well as those whose beliefs, values, and norms differ from your own. Risk-taking – an ability to move outside of the status quo; comfort with uncertainty, improvisation, and/or iteration in the context of continuous learning. How to Apply All eligible applicants are invited to apply for only one of these grant opportunities. Please consult the Apply Now page to review the appropriate Grant Guidelines and Online Application Instructions to prepare your letter of interest. Sent from my iPhone

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