Hello Sudo Room subscribers,
I'm writing to you to make sure you know about a meeting this Saturday for
privacy/Fourth Amendment activists. We're planning a lot of new things as
well as recruiting for current things during the meeting, and you should
come if you are interested. https://www.facebook.com/events/394998687290066/
Thanks!
Alice
If there are no objections, I'm reenstating Morning Math. I think a new
name is in order and would like to field a couple - Math Gym, Visceral
Mathematics, Romancing Methods...
Sessions will start at 7:30 AM. I will be staying and holding up the
torch until 11:30. Participants are free to come and go as the please
between those times on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Thursday (no pressure to
show up on all days, but I will be there) with the possibility of more days.
All levels are welcome - there will always be something to do. The
vision is that despite skill levels and relative experiences, we can all
benefit from contact with each other as Mathematicians.
My favorite learning environment is a boxing gym and I think that is
where our social norms should be derived from.
* Many different styles of boxing and training - trainers are free
to take on students, students can go to new trainers, or you can
have no trainer and get bits of advice from many people
* People arriving and leaving at disparate times as opposed to
Karate classes where everyone must arrive at the same time. The flow
is mantained regardless. You tell your trainer you are arrived and
start your warm-ups. When they are available they will teach you
something or give you an exercise you are familiar with - coming
around to check on you and correct your form.
* All skill levels and levels of fitness - Hanger-ons, the elderly,
novices, pros, trainers all derive social satisfaction. Everyone is
free to improve at their own pace without being turned away from the
sport. Bullying is not tolerated
* Everyone is given the opportunity to teach - this advice is
trusted based on their reputation - many views abound and the
student is free to choose the styles and techniques they want to
emulate.
* Instruction is given and then the student is left to practice the
motions - the memory is important - by they have to get a feel for
it on their own. They can be corrected, but the trainer is also free
to help other students.
* Some routines are done in groups while others are done alone -
most can be practiced in both contexts
* The right exercises are chosen to get you to the next level. There
is no set protocol for what you do each time. You are free to choose
what you do next - though others may tell you better.
* No one goes in the ring without a trainer watching (the analogy
breaks down here)
* Sparing is the most valuable experience as it builds your fight
intuition. We predict punches - we don't react. It takes half a
second for your brain to tell you to move - if you have to wait you
will get hit. That is why you will often take it slow or only do
defense or offense to trim your concerns.
* The focus is learning. Preparing for your match.
The primary question I have is how to teach Mathematics the way
Music/Sports are? How do you teach intuition and problem solving? How do
groups with disparate schedules and skill levels benefit the most from
each other? I propose the following norms. (I will pare them down over
time):
* Agreements on reading materials/problems are between those you
agreed to read with - not the entire group
* You can come to as many or as few sessions as you please - there
will always be something to do. (analogous problems)
* Progress and minutes are prominently displayed to bring people up
to speed without breaking the flow
* Discussion groups form and disperse based on the creative process.
* It is better to ask questions than to give others the solution
when they are solving a problem. Empathize to give the right hint
* It is better to try problems than to merely discuss, pencil must
move over paper (or code across screen) - experience is more
valuable than lectures.
* Pictures are essential tools
* Assisted/Group work is valuable for discovering the process, but
the intuitive jump or connection is up to the student
* Problems can be generalized, specialized or analogous problems
chosen to keep everyone in the loop - to give and get insight as
student and teacher.
* The learning zone is right beyond your current abilities, but not
so hard you have nothing to grasp onto.
* Talent is overrated
<http://www.amazon.com/Talent-Overrated-World-Class-Performers-EverybodyElse…>
Here are some books I would personally like to study with anyone - in
these time slots or otherwise. Suggestions are welcome :)
# Good general Problems
Delightful Puzzles <http://gurmeet.net/puzzles/> - Scroll to Bottom for
other great lists - These are very accessible
The Stanford Mathematics Problem Book
<http://www.amazon.com/The-Stanford-Mathematics-Problem-Book/dp/0486469247/r…>-
Has a hint key and an answer key!
# Problem Solving Techniques
How To Solve It
<http://www.amazon.com/How-Solve-It-Mathematical-Princeton/dp/069111966X/ref…>
Mathematics and Plausible Reasoning
<http://www.amazon.com/Mathematics-Plausible-Reasoning-Patterns-Inference/dp…>
# History of Math
Mathematics and Its History
<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/144196052X/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8…>
# Applied Mathematics
Methods of Mathematics Applied to Calculus, Probability and Statistics
<http://www.amazon.com/Methods-Mathematics-Calculus-Probability-Statistics/d…>
Numerical Methods for Scientists and Engineers
<http://www.amazon.com/Numerical-Methods-Scientists-Engineers-Mathematics/dp…>
# Discrete Mathematics
Concrete Mathematics
<http://www.amazon.com/Concrete-Mathematics-Foundation-Computer-Science/dp/0…>
There is interest in studying Visual Complex Analysis
<http://www.amazon.com/Visual-Complex-Analysis-Tristan-Needham/dp/0198534469…>.
The Complex-plane is an alternative to x-y coordinates that makes many
problems much easier and more intuitive to reason about. It was named
Complex to be vindictive by mathematicians who didn't understand its
worth. AND IT USES PICTURES
"The Equity Collaborative of the Bay Area Regional Prosperity Plan
Project invites
you to join with advocates, community-based organizations, local leaders,
and public agencies to discuss how we can better organize and collaborate
for equitable housing, transportation, and jobs. Affordable housing, living
wage jobs, access to transportation, and displacement prevention are
critical issues for our communities. How can we better collaborate for
equity?"
looks free!: http://equityconference2013-estw.eventbrite.com/
Eddan, Sudoers,
There are two summaries from this meeting. One is from notes taken by Ben Provan of CollaborativeHousing.com, posted here: http://sl-co.com/meet-the-cio-hacker-maker-spaces/ and Debbie did a summary: http://sanleandronext.com/?p=1087 A local company, Direct Images, did the video but I'm not sure where it's posted. Their blog has some nice burning man shots tho' http://strategy.directimages.com/blog/
Also thanks for the head up on the Friday meeting on Open Culture. http://sl-co.com/open-culture/ Looking forward to bein' schooled by my friends (esp Ryan) to the slight north.
j.
Begin forwarded message:
> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 17:40:30 -0700
> From: Eddan Katz <eddan(a)clear.net>
> To: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: [sudo-discuss] San Leandro Meet the CIO event report-back
>
> for those of you who weren't at the San Leandro Meet the CIO event on hackerspaces last month (https://www.eventbrite.com/event/6920335911), it was an awesome event that far exceeded my expectations. i learned a great deal from the experiences shared by Hacker Lab, NextSpace, and the Port Space representatives - I think there's a video up somewhere.
>
> Of all the things I took away from that evening, it seems most relevant to share what Joel of the Port Space was emphasizing, especially because of his background in real estate. Because of the new and different ways in which buildings related to hackerspaces are being used and managed, he said the worst mistake is to make enemies with your landlord. He repeated that the only way such a venture could succeed is if there is open communication and cooperation with the owners and flexibility in negotiations over lease terms.
> ...
I agree with Pete's suggestion that the more neutral the event, the more credibility it could have.
Forwarding the only message I've received about this potential event. Removing details from the message below out of respect for the campaign's confidentiality. I will forward along the email address to whoever ends up being point person contact if there is support for Sudo Room to be involved in the event.
sent from eddan.com
Begin forwarded message:
> From: "Danielle Bersen"
> Date: September 25, 2013, 5:40:53 PM PDT
> To: Eddan Katz <eddan(a)eddan.com>
> Subject: Bryan Parker tech Event Draft Concept
>
> Hi Eddan,
>
> Great speaking with you today and thank you for your participation in the Tech event. Here are the draft details for the event and I welcome your thoughts on format, venue and guest list - as well as other potential companies to include.
>
> Feel free to share any ideas.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Danielle
>
> Tech Event:
>
> Location: TBD, Oakland
>
> Time: November 14, evening
>
> Tech Event
>
> Fundraising and networking event to promote the Tech Industry in Oakland, Raise Awareness of Industry and work toward making downtown a tech hub.
>
> Format: TBD
>
> - Networking
>
> - Speakers - Forum to Present ideas
>
> - Award or competition?
>
> Host Committee Members
>
>
> --
> Danielle Bersen
> Donor Development Director
> Bryan Parker For Oakland Mayor 2014
>
Following the Sudo Room norms of transparency - a value I hold in high regard and try to practice to the best of my ability - I am forwarding the invitation I received below from the Bryan Parker 2014 Oakland mayoral race campaign.
I have spoken with the campaign previously about the importance of tech policy to the future of economic development in downtown oakland. i have not contributed financially to the campaign - but feel comfortable sharing at this point that I am seriously considering supporting his candidacy. the fact that Bryan Parker made history by being the first candidate to crowdsource his initial fundraising seems like a significant acknowledgement and suggests to me an awareness of the power of peer production.
they are interested in holding a roundtable discussion sometime within the next couple months on the subject of innovation and technology.
i mentioned sudo room as a potential venue for this event and was planning on trying to move this discussion forward at the event tonight.
it is my intention to make the case that oakland's edge could and should be openness and co-operation in the further development.
i believe that there is a role municipal government can play in making this happen, in terms of both strategic investments and administrative regulations.
> From: "Bryan Parker" <host(a)invite.pingg.com>
> Subject: Bryan Parker has invited you to First 700 Club Event
> Date: September 25, 2013 5:21:47 PM PDT
> To: eddan <eddan(a)eddan.com>
> Reply-To: Bryan Parker <usm(a)brightlineconsulting.com>
>
>
> You have been invited by Bryan Parker to First 700 Club Event.
>
>
>
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> It is with deep appreciation that I thank you for your generous support of my campaign for Mayor of Oakland 2014. I am honored to welcome you to our 700 Club, a network of high-profile leaders in business, tech and philanthropy who share our vision for moving Oakland Forward. You are invited to attend first of the 700 Club event-series at my home 59 Bay Forest Drive, Oakland on Tuesday, October 1, 2013 from 6:30-8:00 PM.
>
> This 700 Club event will feature special guest speaker Phil Tagami who will lead our discussion around the theme of safety in Oakland. Enjoy the culinary delights of Chef Robert Dorsey III and engage our collective expertise to improve our city.
>
> Please feel free to invite a like-minded friend to attend and share in advancing Oakland Forward. Please RSVP to Danielle.Bersen(a)gmail.com.
>
>
>
> DATE
> October 1st, 2013, 6:30pm
> LOCATION
> The home of Bryan Parker
> ADDRESS
> 59 Bay Forest Drive, Oakland
>
> This email has a unique link,
> just for you!
>
> Please do not forward it to others.
> If you would like to invite others to the event
> send a link instead!
>
>
>
>
> pingg corp. 36 East 20th Street,
> 3rd Floor, New York, NY 10003
>
> To block further invites from
> this sender please unsubscribe.
>
for those of you who weren't at the San Leandro Meet the CIO event on hackerspaces last month (https://www.eventbrite.com/event/6920335911), it was an awesome event that far exceeded my expectations. i learned a great deal from the experiences shared by Hacker Lab, NextSpace, and the Port Space representatives - I think there's a video up somewhere.
Of all the things I took away from that evening, it seems most relevant to share what Joel of the Port Space was emphasizing, especially because of his background in real estate. Because of the new and different ways in which buildings related to hackerspaces are being used and managed, he said the worst mistake is to make enemies with your landlord. He repeated that the only way such a venture could succeed is if there is open communication and cooperation with the owners and flexibility in negotiations over lease terms.
> From: "DAcosta" <DAcosta(a)sanleandro.org>
> Subject: Summary of this morning's conference call for Meet the CIO event / Sept. 19th
> Date: September 12, 2013 4:20:48 PM PDT
> To: <mail(a)joelpool.net>, <erin(a)nextspace.us>, <eddan(a)eddan.com>, <eric(a)hackerlab.org>
> Cc: <gina(a)hackerlab.org>, <michaelcarilli(a)aol.com>
>
> Team!
>
> Thanks again for everyone’s participation this morning.
>
> 1. Format
> a. 5 p.m. – Registration and Networking (please arrive by 5 p.m.!)
> b. 5:30 to 6:15 – Panel Presentation, 10 minutes each in the following order:
> i. Eric / Hacker Lab
> ii. Erin / NextSpace
> iii. Joel / The Port Space
> iv. Eddan / Sudo Room
>
> We will provide the project setup for the presentations – all you need to bring is a flash drive. If you’ll need an internet connection, let me know ahead of time.
> c. 6:15 to 6:30 – Audience Questions – some flexibility here, questions will probably go longer!
> d. 6:30 to 7:00 p.m. – Networking and event end. Chances are that this will probably go on until at least 7:30, but feel free to leave at 7 if you need to.
>
>
> 2. Panel (45 minutes, 10 minutes each for preso, 15-30 minutes for questions)
> a. Powerpoint, if desired (bring flash drive)
> b. Internet access, if needed
> c. I anticipate questions from the audience may revolve around some of the following: (assume this is very new to San Leandrans in the audience)
> i. What motivated you to do what you are doing?
> ii. Why do people want to join these community spaces?
> iii. What does it cost to join and what do you get?
> iv. How did you raise the money to invest in this space
> v. What are you looking when choosing a community to invest in?
>
>
> Thanks again, and please don’t hesitate to call me with questions!
>
> Debbie
>
> Deborah V. Acosta
> Chief Innovation Officer
> Office of the City Manager
> City of San Leandro
> Tel: (510) 577-3353
> Email: dacosta(a)sanleandro.org
> www.litsanleandro.com – Fast fiber now!
> www.sanleandro.org
>
Dear Sudo folk.
For reasons now increasingly obvious to me, I am in need of a new host for my domain eddan.com.
I'd be willing to negotiate legal services in exchange for hosting my website and email.
And thanks for all the offline emails. As always, I should have been clearer in what I wrote. I am still awaiting the bar results at the end of November. And no, I don't know why it takes that long.
-Eddan
news from double union, the new feminist hackerspace in sf. yay!
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Liz Henry <lizhenry(a)gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 2:15 PM
Subject: [Double-Union] Hello DU friends! We have a space!
To: "doubleunion(a)lists.doubleunion.org" <doubleunion(a)lists.doubleunion.org>
We have a lease and some keys, and will be talking tonight about our next
steps for Double Union!
Here are some photos and my brief description of where we're at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lizhenry/sets/72157636020454964/http://www.doubleunion.org/blog/
The next few weeks will be for our move-in and buildout, developing good
processes to manage the space, building access, and so on!
Lots of you have asked how you can contribute or get involved at this stage
and that may be in helping us move in and set up all our donated stuff. We
are scrounging for bookshelves and sturdy tables especially. Expect an
email asking for move-in help.... Or we may just have an open house time in
a week or so for visitors. We don't have "hours" established yet, but very
soon, like, tonight, all or most of the current members will have their
keys. So if you would like to visit as a guest it will be possible once
someone other than me has keys.
Press and bloggers want to talk with us already. We are not quite ready to
do that until there is more "there" there to talk about.
Also, check this out! Our Resident Anarchobrarian, or Anarch-archivist,
Rose, has started cataloguing our donated books on LibraryThing!
https://www.librarything.com/profile/doubleunion
Cheers,
Liz
YOUR FEMINIST HACKER SECRETARY
--
Liz Henry
lizhenry(a)gmail.com
"Electric ladies will you sleep or will you preach?" -- Janelle Monae
"Without models, it's hard to work; without a context, difficult to
evaluate; without peers, nearly impossible to speak." -- Joanna Russ
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hi everyone,
our current balance is a measly *$1,030.38*!
as a reminder, our rent + utilities is $1800 and with our minimum balance
of $500, we require *$2300* in the bank on Oct 1st.
please make sure that you pay your sept. dues before the end of the month!
you have a number of ways to contribute:
1) online (via wepay): https://sudoroom.org/
2) online (via gittip): https://www.gittip.com/sudoroom/
3) in person (anytime): please drop cash or checks into the clear plastic
box by the door that goes to the elevator
4) in person (at meetings): bring cash or checks to wed. meetings.
don't forget, we still exist in a *precarious month to month financial
situation* so pay your dues.
- marina
tomorrow!
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Stephen LaPorte <stephen.laporte(a)gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 9:47 AM
Subject: [Wikimedia-SF] Wiki Wednesday
To: San Francisco Bay Area Wikimedians <wikimedia-sf(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Hello all,
I want to extend an invitation to join an informal discussion about wikis
(big and small!) this Wednesday (October 2, 2013) at 6:30 PM. The event
will be at the Wikimedia Foundation offices, near Montgomery BART in San
Francisco.
More information is available here:
http://eekim.com/blog/2013/09/wikiwednesday-in-san-francisco-state-of-the-w…
Cheers,
Stephen
_______________________________________________
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https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-sf
Hi Marc -
how dare you!?!
please stop the personal attacks.
you make a big fuss about moving and you veto any solution where we
have to deal with the landlord. and then when we follow your
leadership, you double back.
what's the deal, marc?
-Eddan
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Marc Juul <juul(a)labitat.dk>
> Date: Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 4:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [CCL] Re: [sudo-discuss] Fwd: The Omni
> To: cere.yahoo(a)gmail.com
> Cc: Matthew Harbowy <hbergeronx(a)gmail.com>, "counterculturelabs(a)googlegroups.com
> " <counterculturelabs(a)googlegroups.com>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:50 PM, <cere.yahoo(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> *nod*
>
> I think your concerns are valid, Matt. But before we assuming that
> we're in a situation where good money follows bad, we should prolly
> do some due diligence and figure out what's really going on with an
> in-person meeting with Eddan and Matt and perhaps even (god forbid)
> a meeting with George and Laurie as well as a follow on.
>
> I want to chime in real quick with an important note: Please don't
> assume that Eddan is in any position of leadership or decision-
> making power in sudo room. He is not active in sudo room, nor has he
> been doing anything for or with sudo room for the past several
> months, except to show up for the past few meetings and make
> unrealistic suggestions about buying the whole building where sudo
> room is currently located.
>
> --
> Marc
>
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I'll BE THERE!
Tx.Blackwell
Troy Massey <ecoeconomist11(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Troy Massey
><<http://EconomicPolicyJournal.com>
>ecoeconomist11(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
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>> "ECONOMIC CONTROVERSIES"
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>A DISCUSSION GROUP AND CONCEPT RESOURCE
>
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>> Hello Bay Area citizens,
>>
>
>
>> I am proposing to hold discussions on current economic controversies
>>
>> Bob Wenzel a local dedicated Austrian school economist will be in
>> attendance to offer his controversial perspective on the economy, it's
>> mechanisms, and will be available to answer general questions through out
>> his presentation.
>>
>> Be prepared to learn and promote your own thoughts. We encourage people to
>> bring any burning questions and perspectives which will be worked into the
>> presentations so that we can study to help develop dialogue.
>>
>>
>> EconomicPolicyJournal.com
>>
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>
>>
>> We will be holding the discussions on
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>> We look forward to your attendance!
>> <http://EconomicPolicyJournal.com>
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>> (2141 Broadway on 22nd street entrance Oakland 94612 )
>>
>> ( type in your blog or webpage here Bob )
>>
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>>
>> We look forward to your attendance!
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>>
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>> 510.383.6117
>>
>> LIBRARIAN
>> www.SUDOroom.org
>> 2141 Broadway
>> Oakland Ca, 94612
>>
>>
>> COMMUNICATIONS COORDINATOR
>> www.CommunityDemocracyProject.org
>>
>>
>> "You are the source of freedom. The price of freedom is awareness and
>> action."
>>
Hell Holy Kopimists and Sudoers,
A group of self-organized students from UC Berkeley want to Visit Sudo Room
on October 14th 5pm to take theory into praxis. Their student-run class is
"Politics of Digital Piracy" .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_Program:University_of_California,_B…
They are asking if someone would like to take point on peer-teaching one of
the following topics to the insatiable and impressionable minds of the
hackcers-to-be.
As far as volunteers go, I think if would be cool if someone:
> a.) did a hands-on workshop setting up Thunderbird, enigmail, and explain
> a bit about encryption/decryption, pgp and private keys ect.
>
> b.) setting up tor. Despite its recent cracks, there have been students
> that have expressed interest in using Tor.
>
> c.) talk about the hack culture, and what kind of things sudoroom does.
>
> Let me know if you think this is doable. Should be fun. Also, bringing a
> group from the Open Computing Facility as well.
>
Please reply all so that our organizer Angelica can be part of the
conversation or reply to her directly.
Gratutiously yours,
Max
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Angelica Tavella <angelicatavella(a)gmail.com>
Date: 30 September 2013 08:32
Subject: Re: September updates
To: Max Klein <isalix(a)gmail.com>
Cc: Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com>
Great.
So here is a link to the class wiki page (yes, we're still using your
implementation of the WMF Education Program).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_Program:University_of_California,_B…
The topics we have covered so far are copyright law, privacy and
surveillance, hack culture, and are moving on to peer to peer networks this
week.
The week of Oct 14 (the proposed evening), we will just be presenting
midterm projects, so I think the learning objective of our trip to sudoroom
could be related to any of our covered topics so far.
As far as volunteers go, I think if would be cool if someone:
a.) did a hands-on workshop setting up Thunderbird, enigmail, and explain
a bit about encryption/decryption, pgp and private keys ect.
b.) setting up tor. Despite its recent cracks, there have been students
that have expressed interest in using Tor.
c.) talk about the hack culture, and what kind of things sudoroom does.
Let me know if you think this is doable. Should be fun. Also, bringing a
group from the Open Computing Facility as well.
-Ang
Any Noisebridge and Sudoroom regulars into some death guild tonight? There's ample wifi there and I run into you all from time to time !
Sent from my iPhone
I am hoping we continue to occupy the current location under more favorable terms. The access to not only BART, but city government, assemblies, events, community is appealing.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note™, an AT&T LTE smartphone
-------- Original message --------
Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Fwd: The Omni
From: David Keenan <dkeenan44(a)gmail.com>
To: "sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org>
CC: Re: [sudo-discuss] Fwd: The Omni
Thanks Eddan for clarifying.
Im sad i missed the joint meeting with CCL re: moving in - we definitely need more meatspace strategizing on making a 3-way move like that happen -
I'm really happy that marina and y'all are checking out the Omni and other potential spaces - I'm going to start looking pretty hard and get BAPSers in on this too - sounds like a guesstimated combo sudo/baps/ccl monthly budget would be ~$4500, does that seem about right?
Re: SUDO moving into the Omni, it sounds super cool and personally I have no problem with the location - but I do think if there are ppl living in the space, that might make it challenging - conversely if there are lots of loud shows there, that might make having a class tough? And more or less importantly.. are there windows in the Omni space? It's be great if whatever space SUDO moved to had more natural light..
On Monday, September 30, 2013, Eddan Katz wrote:
Terminating the current lease means the latter, David. That is - at that point, a new/better lease can be negotiated. Or not, if so decided.
While the details on what a co-op purchase would look like still have to be hammered out in detail, it was my understanding from George that he was interested in an arrangement that would include selling off equity in that portion. Different organizations would put up money in their collective shares and that wing would be organized as a co-op with the different organizational/individual owners taking part in the decision-making of managing the building.
On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:05 PM, David Keenan wrote:
Hey guys,
Regarding leaving 2141 and scoping out new spaces..
I was hoping someone could fill me in on what is really meant by deciding we are officially 'terminating the lease' in Dec. ?
Does it mean we are definitely out of 2141 come Jan., ie, we definitely dont want to stay at 2141? Has that been decided?
Or, would we have the opportunity to negotiate a new/better lease if we did decide to keep on at 2141?
Re: a co-op purchase of part of 2141, what are the brass tacks of that exactly? I..e, do we have however many tens of thousands I imagine we would need for most mortgage downpayments? Is there some angel investor here I dunno about?
Along the same lines what are our real-world options with respect buying the church, or part of the Omni? Or are we just talking about renting part of the omni?
Personally, I'd prefer to move, but move with BAPS, SUDO, and CCL. It kind of seems like maybe we should find a good place to move to, and understand what our combined budget is. if SUDO moves out without BAPS that would suck for BAPS and also mean that SUDO would probably get a smaller space than we would get if we combined forces, synchronized, and all moved somewhere together (or mayber stayed at 2141 together, under more amenable conditions). Staying together being the operative word to me here..
Best.
David
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 10:46 AM, David Rorex <drorex(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com> wrote:
*Half the room will still be avavilable, and could be Sudo's for approx $2k/month.
How many square feet are we getting in exchange for that $2k?
*It is 10 minutes walk from McArthur BART
That's not too bad, obviously closer is better, and MacArthur is not a very safe area at night, but it's oakland, what are you gonna do
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Tracy Jacobs <kinetical(a)comcast.net> wrote:
You do realize that's very close to Ace Monster Toys? If Sudo room moves up to the Berkeley Border, it would make sense to join with Ace Monster Toys. Also, in my opinion that is way too far from Bart, and way too far from where I live, so I would probably not ever go there.
Sounds like an interesting space though, and that is a better neighborhood than where AMT is now. Maybe they would be interested in this space?
Tracy
It's 1.4 mi away, which is relatively close, though not a super convenient walking distance. However they are looking for bigger cheaper spaces (minimum 3000 sq ft, and at most $1/sqft), so I'm not sure this would work. Also they have a requirement that anything over 2500sqft MUST have overhead sprinklers. That combined with the noise constraints might be an issue, since AMT has lots of big noisy toys (large CNC router tables, laser cutters, power saws, etc)
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People from sudo room, the public school and counter culture labs are
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Come join if you want to be part of the discussion!
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Hi! I'm new to Oakland/SudoRoom, so this may be the completely wrong
place to ask this... but can anyone recommend a good electrician to
run phone cables? Ideally one who is available on the weekends?
Zee
Yes, the building itself is certainly not worth a lot/if anything. It was
built by one of the founders of that specific church, some 4-7 decades ago.
One of the churchgoers' fathers I believe. But hey! with some creativity,
skill and hard work anything is possible, and building new dwelling(s)
doesn't necessarily have to be a 2 year project.
Might even be possible to get for less than 400k.
Make a great day,
Morten H. D. Fuglsang
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On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 4:03 PM, David Wild <davidnorbertwild(a)gmail.com>wrote:
> rad, max.
>
> you seem to know a thing or two about group financing. but for more info I
> bet you could get advice on group purchasing from this crew who is starting
> a community nexus in north oakland. check them out:
> https://www.facebook.com/theomniproject . they recently acquired a huge
> lot on shattuck behind creative reuse!
>
> i can put you in touch with one of the founding members if you like!
>
> -dw
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Max Klein <isalix(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> ==What?==
>> There is a church that has gone bankrupt, and their property is for sale.
>>
>> 2439 Adeline Street
>> Oakland, CA 94607
>>
>> The appraisal value is $500k, but it is not on the market yet. (Appraisal
>> pdf attached). So my feeling is that we can make an offer for somewhere
>> around $400k if we organize quickly.
>>
>> There are some pictures in the appraisal PDF.
>>
>> I have set up an appointment to View the church at 8pm on Tuesday 1st
>> October. I'm inviting you to come see if you want.
>>
>> ==Communal Buying==
>> There are several ways to buy the property. I am intrigued by a
>> multi-buyer shared-equity approach. Where everybody that pays not
>> necessarily equal amounts, owns equity in not necessarily equal amounts.
>>
>> There has also been an offer of lender financing if we put $178k down.
>>
>> I am open to creative solutions.
>>
>> ==Potential Uses==
>> Currently it is zoned "CIX" commercial-industrial mix. That means that
>> officially you can only use one-third of the space for living. If we were
>> to get a mortgage we would need a business license. Of course thought once
>> you own it, there isn't zoning police that check what you do with it.
>>
>> So we could make this into housing, hostel, a venue, keep it a church,
>> have a tiny house village on the back bit.
>>
>> Again I am open to creative solutions.
>>
>> ==Get in touch==
>> If you want to come to the viewing, please email or call me (7074787023).
>>
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Subject: Raw Food Meetup Group - 11/3/2013 Confirmed for Large Space
Date: Fri, Sep 27, 2013 20:17
Hi All-Since I didn’t get word of any conflicts I have scheduled our Raw Foods Meetup Group for 11/3 with Heather Haxo Philips teaching a Fermentation Class. Setup 2-3, class 3-5, clean-up 5-6 (Sunday afternoon). I would also like to schedule a similar time for December 14th unless you have anything scheduled. Please let me know ASAP.Thank you!Laurie
Hello All,
==What?==
There is a church that has gone bankrupt, and their property is for sale.
2439 Adeline Street
Oakland, CA 94607
The appraisal value is $500k, but it is not on the market yet. (Appraisal
pdf attached). So my feeling is that we can make an offer for somewhere
around $400k if we organize quickly.
There are some pictures in the appraisal PDF.
I have set up an appointment to View the church at 8pm on Tuesday 1st
October. I'm inviting you to come see if you want.
==Communal Buying==
There are several ways to buy the property. I am intrigued by a multi-buyer
shared-equity approach. Where everybody that pays not necessarily equal
amounts, owns equity in not necessarily equal amounts.
There has also been an offer of lender financing if we put $178k down.
I am open to creative solutions.
==Potential Uses==
Currently it is zoned "CIX" commercial-industrial mix. That means that
officially you can only use one-third of the space for living. If we were
to get a mortgage we would need a business license. Of course thought once
you own it, there isn't zoning police that check what you do with it.
So we could make this into housing, hostel, a venue, keep it a church, have
a tiny house village on the back bit.
Again I am open to creative solutions.
==Get in touch==
If you want to come to the viewing, please email or call me (7074787023).
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