- sudo-discuss - sudoroom.org

by David Keenan

Recommendations for a reputable host / colo for the forthcoming Bay Area Public School site reboot? Ideally a host with ethics that align with a place like Riseup, but is on the west coast, preferably the Bay Area.. unless that is some kind of crazy dream? Do we / sudo have the upstream bandwidth to host simple sites (basic WP) from 2141? I can set it all up.. Where does SUDO host our main site, wiki etc? Sorry if these are noob-y questions - any guidance appreciated - thx! David

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Are you on the MESH Project?

by Liberty Madison

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SUDO SOEX GRANT DUE TODAY 6PM

by David Keenan

Jenny and I worked on the BAPS and SUDO grant applications from Southern Exposure til late last night.. who is willing to pick up the ball and help? Due today at 6pm - I am at the space and will be here until all are submitted. If anyone wants to come by and help, please do, and bring your laptop if you have one/can. There's a lot to get together. Btw. Because I am a masochist I am also trying to submit a grant application for the ANTISTASIS photography group that showed here. Oof. Lots to do! MONEY!! David

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Re: [sudo-discuss] report from two (2!) women-oriented hacker events tonight

by Max Klein

Hi Marina, Thank you for the insightful report. I am looking forwards to hearing more of the lessons that you allude to about how we can make sudo more woman-friendly. I want to offer any support I can to your new chapter of woman who code. also I invite you to talk more about your experiences at the next meeting if you feel like any recommendations can be made to sudoers from these experiences. m > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> > To: Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com> > Cc: "sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> > Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 00:19:07 -0700 > Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] report from two (2!) women-oriented hacker > events tonight > > Shag carpet in the sex closet... Classy. > > Also thanks for the writeup. Sounds awesome! > On Sep 17, 2013 9:54 PM, "Marina Kukso" <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> hi all, >> >> a bunch of us went to the totally excellent and huge (50+ people) double >> union <http://doubleunion.org> launch event which had a bunch of really >> great short talks on all kinds of topics (technical projects, a women's >> google glass hacking group, history of textiles, singing in navi - which is >> apparently an inclusive language, experiences from using the internet with >> a male-gendered handle, comics, and stand-up). it left me personally >> totally inspired to have open short short talks at sudo (less pressure than >> 5 minutes of fame) and totally amazed by the density of hacker women in our >> area. we are not doing a good enough job getting women at sudo room, but we >> have a great new partner in double union. >> >> afterwards a few of us went to a women who code<http://www.meetup.com/Women-Who-Code-SF/>open hack night at the new relic office (more on that below). they had >> pizza (boo) but also salad (yay). there were at least 30 women here, all at >> various levels of experience. there was a lot of app talk and a lot of >> interest in working for companies. >> >> a number of women shared their experiences of getting work at >> corporations, getting mentorship in order to move up in corporations, and >> forcing their organizations to take gender inclusion seriously. while i >> applaud the accomplishments of all women who find work in an exclusive >> field and also applaud the formation of alternate professional networks, i >> am very sad that we have to applaud and cheer whenever a single women gets >> a leg up, or support, or a job, or successfully leverages another woman in >> her network to help her find work. >> >> it was also interesting to observe in myself the effects of efforts at >> inclusion - when women would say that their attempts to bring attention to >> the lack of women at their company were well-received, or when they talked >> about how a boss was supportive of their professional development, i could >> see myself giving little ++'s to their organization. sharing with other >> people the ways that communities demonstrate their commitment to inclusion >> is a key part of getting more people in the door. this is why i think that >> it's really important to share what we do at sudo and the ways we pay >> attention to and act on our mission of inclusion. >> >> finally, jordan and i chatted with the women who code people about their >> organization. it's all volunteer-run, they have no budget. they have >> meetups three times a week now (algorithms study group<http://www.meetup.com/Women-Who-Code-SF/events/132650642/>!). >> they meet at different companies who give them space for free and agree to >> cater (apparently organizing this is not as much work as it would >> seem..they said they now have a pipeline and enough industry connections to >> make this easy). they rarely meet at hackerspaces because of the lack of >> ability to sponsor food. >> >> we talked to them about starting an east bay chapter at sudo focused on >> linux/open source projects/?? and they were super supportive. they said >> that this would meet a need that they saw in their community: from their >> experience, many women were able to reach "intermediate" levels of >> experience through their groups, but hit snags when starting to develop >> projects of their own and joining open source communities. their people >> needed support learning how to navigate open source communities and knowing >> where and how to start. we'll see what comes of this. >> >> finally, the new relic office is so fancy! which brings us to.... >> >> >> *The New Relic Office is so Fancy: A Photoessay* >> >> this is their fireplace-oriented lounging area: >> >> [image: Inline image 1] >> >> this is another lounging area with the view of the led side of the bay >> bridge: >> >> [image: Inline image 2] >> >> this is the tiny room whose purpose can only be sex (what other purpose >> could it possibly serve??? it has a sweet chaise lounge!): >> >> [image: Inline image 3] >> >> and here they are, the women who code!!! yayy!!!!! >> >> [image: Inline image 4] >> >> we invited some of the women to sudo room and they were down, so >> hopefully they will come. yay! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >> >> > _______________________________________________ > sudo-discuss mailing list > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > >

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report from two (2!) women-oriented hacker events tonight

by Marina Kukso

hi all, a bunch of us went to the totally excellent and huge (50+ people) double union <http://doubleunion.org> launch event which had a bunch of really great short talks on all kinds of topics (technical projects, a women's google glass hacking group, history of textiles, singing in navi - which is apparently an inclusive language, experiences from using the internet with a male-gendered handle, comics, and stand-up). it left me personally totally inspired to have open short short talks at sudo (less pressure than 5 minutes of fame) and totally amazed by the density of hacker women in our area. we are not doing a good enough job getting women at sudo room, but we have a great new partner in double union. afterwards a few of us went to a women who code<http://www.meetup.com/Women-Who-Code-SF/>open hack night at the new relic office (more on that below). they had pizza (boo) but also salad (yay). there were at least 30 women here, all at various levels of experience. there was a lot of app talk and a lot of interest in working for companies. a number of women shared their experiences of getting work at corporations, getting mentorship in order to move up in corporations, and forcing their organizations to take gender inclusion seriously. while i applaud the accomplishments of all women who find work in an exclusive field and also applaud the formation of alternate professional networks, i am very sad that we have to applaud and cheer whenever a single women gets a leg up, or support, or a job, or successfully leverages another woman in her network to help her find work. it was also interesting to observe in myself the effects of efforts at inclusion - when women would say that their attempts to bring attention to the lack of women at their company were well-received, or when they talked about how a boss was supportive of their professional development, i could see myself giving little ++'s to their organization. sharing with other people the ways that communities demonstrate their commitment to inclusion is a key part of getting more people in the door. this is why i think that it's really important to share what we do at sudo and the ways we pay attention to and act on our mission of inclusion. finally, jordan and i chatted with the women who code people about their organization. it's all volunteer-run, they have no budget. they have meetups three times a week now (algorithms study group<http://www.meetup.com/Women-Who-Code-SF/events/132650642/>!). they meet at different companies who give them space for free and agree to cater (apparently organizing this is not as much work as it would seem..they said they now have a pipeline and enough industry connections to make this easy). they rarely meet at hackerspaces because of the lack of ability to sponsor food. we talked to them about starting an east bay chapter at sudo focused on linux/open source projects/?? and they were super supportive. they said that this would meet a need that they saw in their community: from their experience, many women were able to reach "intermediate" levels of experience through their groups, but hit snags when starting to develop projects of their own and joining open source communities. their people needed support learning how to navigate open source communities and knowing where and how to start. we'll see what comes of this. finally, the new relic office is so fancy! which brings us to.... *The New Relic Office is so Fancy: A Photoessay* this is their fireplace-oriented lounging area: [image: Inline image 1] this is another lounging area with the view of the led side of the bay bridge: [image: Inline image 2] this is the tiny room whose purpose can only be sex (what other purpose could it possibly serve??? it has a sweet chaise lounge!): [image: Inline image 3] and here they are, the women who code!!! yayy!!!!! [image: Inline image 4] we invited some of the women to sudo room and they were down, so hopefully they will come. yay!

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Building microphones.

by rusty lindgren

Hey Everyone, I was wondering if people wanted to build microphones with me. Any takers? -- Cheers, Rusty Lindgren **

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Pinnacle of cultural diversity

by Romy Snowyla

It is so awesome to see Sudoroom as a pinnacle of cultural diversity. There is no tokenism here or random Asian women shoved into showcase roles. It is truly a place where open minded people mix freely showing their diversity and superiority to any capital it's systems and stick it to the man Rock on!!! Sent from my iPhone

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Fwd: [OpenOakland Brigade] Take the Survey: Oakland Budget Process

by Marina Kukso

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Adam Stiles <adam(a)stiles.io> Date: Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 5:09 PM Subject: [OpenOakland Brigade] Take the Survey: Oakland Budget Process To: openoakland <openoakland(a)googlegroups.com> As some of you know, I recently became a member of Oakland's budget advisory committee. I've been asked to share this survey to get YOUR feedback.* Please forward. Deadline: this Sunday. * The Oakland Budget Advisory Committee has created this survey to solicit feedback from the community on the Oakland budget process this year. We are asking you to evaluate the budget process on a number of different qualities. *Your feedback will be used in forming our report to City Council that will be evaluating their efforts for transparency, engagement and clarity in the budget process* this year. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/68KY2HT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OpenOakland" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to openoakland+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to openoakland(a)googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/openoakland/CAMKatgfeYMuisbzfZvYTDiY2Jv%3… . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

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Fwd: Oakland Votes Redistricting Meeting TONIGHT, Hub Oakland, 6-8pm

by Marina Kukso

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Oakland Votes Redistricting Coalition <it(a)urbanstrategies.org> Date: Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:31 PM Subject: Why do you love Oakland? Oakland Votes Redistricting Meeting TONIGHT, Hub Oakland, 6-8pm To: marina.kukso(a)gmail.com Hello All, I am Sheila Blandon, interning with the Oakland Votes Redistricting Coalition<https://act.myngp.com/el/-5494969879918280704/-471184712967127040>, assisting with data entry and tonight's meeting. I currently reside in Oakland’s 6th district and attend Peralta Community Colleges with an interest in public policy. In the near future I would like to run for office to influence policies made in our local government that affect those living in under resourced communities. Now that you have learned a little about me, I would like to invite you to this Wednesday’s meeting so you could learn more about the redistricting project and how it affects you and your neighbors. Please join me and the Oakland Votes Redistricting Coalition on Wednesday, September 18 at 6pm-8pm at the HUB in Downtown Oakland. (1423 Broadway). *Light refreshments will be served by Rising Loafer.* *For more information on redistricting please visit www.OaklandVotes.org.<https://act.myngp.com/el/-5494969879918280704/-399127118929199104> * I am excited to meet you all in person! Thanks much in advance, Sheila Blandon *P.S. Oakland Local just published an article about Oakland Reidistricting and how to be involved. <https://act.myngp.com/el/-5494969879918280704/-327069524891271168> * If you believe you received this message in error or wish to no longer receive email from us, please unsubscribe<https://act.myngp.com/el/-5494969879918280704/-543242307005054976> .

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noisebridge throwing out Scanning Electron Microscope etc

by Jake

perhaps you heard noisebridge is no longer a hackerspace and is emptying out the science room (where the SEM was) to make room for a radio studio or dj booth or something. ball pit. miloh will be moving the SEM to a safe location but if you want to help make sure no pieces get lost maybe you can help. there are tiny boxes with filaments in them and an ultrasonic cleaner, probably scattered around the trash pile thats forming at nb now. they are doing a dump run thursday. the SEM got moved out of its safe place without a single email about it to anyone that i know of. so help miloh find all the SEM pieces before its too late! -jake On Tue, 11 Jun 2013, Chris Murphy wrote: > Hi guys, > > Instead of taking the Noisebridge SEM, I have a great idea... > > Let's get another SEM! > > One of the problems with the Noisebridge SEM is that the community of SEM experts is too small. So let's enlarge that community > by getting another. > > If you do get the Noisebridge SEM, NB will be out of a significant resource and its repair and operation are likely to fall on > the same exact shoulders. You will also encounter ALL of the same problems that NB has encountered and will need to go to extreme > effort to build infrastructure around the microscope (which we haven't completed). > > I have a lead on another SEM that would be free. They aren't as rare as you might think. > > In my previous e-mail, which may not have been posted to the sudo room list yet (I'm not a list member), I didn't understand that > there was a plan afoot to take the NB SEM (which technically does not belong to NB anyway, it's on loan). I thought that someone > named Dr. X was going to donate another SEM to sudo room. I generally disapprove of dismantling Noisebridge resources. > > Chris > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 11, 2013, at 15:25, Ryan Bethencourt <ryan.bethencourt(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Great thanks Jake, we're working on the space thing for CCL and hoping to have one in the nearish term... it's kind > of like the early days of Sudo Room when we talked on and on about getting a space... until we finally got one :) > > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote: > it is currently in a relatively safe place, especially considering that moving it is the most dangerous thing > to it. So it should stay where it is until a new place is chosen for it. > > Since Sudoroom doesn't have enough room for it and CCL has NO room yet, moving it will have to wait. > > However, i know of a pickup truck that can be used to move it if and when the time comes. > > -jake > > On Tue, 11 Jun 2013, Ryan Bethencourt wrote: > > Thanks Jake, It looks like we may have to rent a uhaul truck to move it as it looks large? > Sounds like Ben has a place for us to store it and we have another Counter Culture labs > co-founder/member (Shanee) who knows how to use it and said she could teach us :) > > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Benjamin Lack <benlack(a)gmail.com> wrote: > It looks like it would be fine sitting in a garage for a few months, if so, I have space. > Ben > > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com> wrote: > That would be excellent! > > Here's the user manual with all the specs: > > https://www.noisebridge.net/images/c/c7/ISI_Mini-TV_SEM_Manual-Troubleshoot… > > It's a desktop machine, so doesn't necessarily take up any more space than some bio equipment. > Wonder how easy it would be to DIY a gold sputterer... > > Patrik > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote: > I'm sure that Dr. X would be very pleased if it went to Counter Culture Labs. He just wants > it to be understood and appreciated, rather than sitting > neglected. CCL should hurry up and buy the church building before the price goes up on it, > and I can help transport it. > > It is basically an equipment rack and a cart of accessories, so it doesn't take up a ton of > room. But it's good to be able to set the microscope and > vacuum pump on different structures so that the vibration of the pump doesn't shake the > scope. Also, to take higher resolution pictures it will be > necessary to construct an analog data importer but that will likely just be a computer with a > slightly modified sound card and some software. > > keep in mind that to view organic (nonmetallic) things you will need a gold sputterer. > > -jake > > On Tue, 11 Jun 2013, Ryan Bethencourt wrote: > > Hi Jake, > I'd be very happy to help transport the scanning electron microscope and if > it can't fit into Sudo Room, I'd also love to float the idea of potentially > housing it at Counter Culture Labs (the Sudo room DIY Bio offshoot) when we > eventually open up. Any thoughts? > > How big is the SEM (I know some of them can be huge which might prohibit > location)? > > All the best, > Ryan > > Best, > Ryan > > > On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote: > sudoroom is being offered a scanning electron microscope (by Dr. > X). > > it comes with all the stuff and actually works, but it requires > a bit of knowledge to operate it. unfortunately Mr. X is not > available to train us how to operate it, however Chris Murphy > may be available and knows how it works. > > It would take up about 30 square feet of space including the > place where the operators sit or stand. It is not computerized > like the one at Pumping Station One, it is an analog machine. > Pictures can be taken at high resolution by long-exposure photo > of the CRT on the front of the machine, or we can build an > analog data importer to reconstruct images at much higher > resolution if we desire. > > The cash price of this SEM is $10 in gas and tolls, I will > provide the vehicle and movement. The rest of the price of the > machine in blood and sacrifice is in the time and energy to > learn its intricicies and idiosynchracies while learning about > vacuum pumps and vacuum oil, and how not to let vacuum oil > contaminate your vacuum and get all over your filament. > > https://noisebridge.net/wiki/SEM > > ironically, one of the reasons it doesn't work as well at > noisebridge is because the whole place shakes when the city > buses ride by. and sudoroom is apparently directly over the > bart tunnel so i wonder how different it will be. > > -jake > _______________________________________________ > sudo-discuss mailing list > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > > > -- > Ryan Bethencourt > > Tel: (415) 825 2705 > ryan.bethencourt(a)gmail.com > > www.bamh1.com > www.linkedin.com/in/bethencourt > www.logos-press.com/books/biotechnology_business_development.php > > > _______________________________________________ > sudo-discuss mailing list > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Counter Culture Labs" > group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to > east-bay-diybio+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > > > -- > Ryan Bethencourt > > Tel: (415) 825 2705 > ryan.bethencourt(a)gmail.com > > www.bamh1.com > www.linkedin.com/in/bethencourt > www.logos-press.com/books/biotechnology_business_development.php > > > > > -- > Ryan Bethencourt > > Tel: (415) 825 2705 > ryan.bethencourt(a)gmail.com > > www.bamh1.com > www.linkedin.com/in/bethencourt > www.logos-press.com/books/biotechnology_business_development.php > > >

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Our Time Lapse prototype

by mattsenate＠gmail.com

Hey all, There was a link sent to the Nerds for Nature email list about using community photographs to collect data for natural spaces, parks, etc. You set up a single station with a guide for your camera, let folks take photographs with any device, gather them up, then use a photo stitcher to put together a timelapse. I think this is an excellent way to document moments at sudo negotiated by the consent of individuals and through human action, rather than a webcam and automated constant stream. Please leave the pedestal in its current position, there is tape on the floor so you can replace it if necessary. Thanks! // Matt

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DisasterRadio needs your android phones!

by Marc Juul

Hi! The DisasterRadio project is in use of android phones for testing DisasterMap application. If you have an old android phone that you're not using, we're happy to accept loans or donations! DisasterRadio project wiki page: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/DisasterRadio -- Marc

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Fwd: Children/Security/Janitorial issues.....

by Matthew Senate

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Laurie Cooperman Rosen <Lscoop(a)comcast.net> Date: Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 6:03 PM Subject: RE: Children/Security/Janitorial issues..... To: Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> Hi Matthew…**** I think a meeting would be best because there are so many issues. I agree that the confrontation was bad, and that George has a problem when something hurts him deeply. Hopefully those who know him understand that he has a huge heart, and repays kindness with kindness, but has a hard time handling any type of abuse relating to people, animals or the building, and he simply can’t control his emotions and what he says when a violent incident occurs that is uncalled for. Accusations were not made at a particular person but there was ranting about the lack of control in the evenings and lack of responsibility/training/accountability for those using the premises that allowed this to happen, and in that he was righteous. **** The problem boils down to the security in the building. Doors are being left open in the evening and are not being monitored. People not affiliated with the group having an event can enter, hide, and do what they want later (which only by INCREDIBLE luck has not been grand theft thus far). We won’t be able to continue the late hours and will have to shut the building down after a certain time in the evening UNLESS we have a direct responsible person on-site that is trustworthy, has his/her own security code, and is fully conversant with the shutting down procedures and who also knows which doors should be shut (and when) throughout the entire 2141 floor during the evening. It’s not ok for The Sudo Room (or the Public School) to leave it to the last member staying late to shut down and monitor what is happening in the building if that person is not trained and knowledgeable and does not have his/her own security code.**** Sometimes people in 2141 leave the door from the office corridor to the bathrooms open when they should not. This has never been a problem until recently, when traffic started coming in from the rear door. In the past all traffic came in from the front door. The person in charge should make sure that the rear door from the bathrooms into that corridor is always locked throughout the evening.**** We have fixed the lock on the 22nd St. entrance so there should no longer be a reason to keep that door open during non-business hours (during business hours when certain hair stylists are there it might be kept open, because the stylists can’t use your security buzz-in system….something that should be rectified and would help building security IMMENSELY. I have also noticed that even when not being buzzed in the elevator is always accessible…something that should not be the case). **** We are now getting calls up until as late as 3am on a fairly regular basis (one at 3am this past weekend—usually more like until 11:30 on weekdays and 12-12:30am on weekends), and it is almost at the point where we are throwing our hands up and saying “don’t send the police” at a time when it is possible that a robbery COULD be in process or the building could be open to theft in the middle of the night, because we don’t know who is in charge or who to call at that hour. **** For our part, we need to put in more cameras in a couple of places, although I will draw the line at having them in a restroom stall. We met the gentleman who was likely the last person there the night of the awful event, and we believe that although his group was not directly responsible, he did say that nobody checked the restrooms before leaving, which should not have been the case. For both security and for those that arrive in the morning, we are now asking that after every evening group meets that the restrooms be checked, excess trash disposed of and paper towels/toilet paper replaced as needed. We have never been responsible for cleanup after events and since what has been happening there has been way beyond normal usage, we ask that you get together with the Public School to purchase some extra toilet paper/paper towels to keep on hand and to make sure that the restrooms are clean, stocked and ready for use when folks arrive in the a.m. The person in charge for the evening (see more on that below) should be in charge of that (janitorial/security) aspect as well. We will continue to come in late afternoons to take care of trash that builds up during the daytime. In order for this to happen we will ask on every evening if your groups have people there after 9pm that we have the name/phone number of the person on the premises who will be closing up and whom we can contact in case of security issues. It is possible for you (and a couple of others from The Sudo Room & Public School as designated by us) to be able to give people temporary codes for the security system if a person is trained but will not have access to the building on a regular basis. The responsible people may give out “one time” security codes as needed, with the ability to call those codes in directly to Sonitrol (you would use your own passcode when calling them, and then give them the name of the temporary person and temporary passcode) as the responsible person allowed to give out additional temporary codes. **** Also, George had me take care of the recycling on Saturday while he was dealing with the restroom incident. We should not have to be doing that. It took at least an hour to sort through the massive amount of glass to make sure that the insides of the bottles were cleaned out and that the plastic and glass (recyclable) was separated from the cans (which are returned for deposit). In that mess was also a modicum of some gross garbage that found its way into the recycling. We ask that this be done for us (glass-plastic separated, washed, into one set of plastic bags, and clean rinsed aluminum cans into another) and we will be happy to continue to haul them away, unless you prefer to haul them away yourselves—at this time the aluminum cans bring in a small amount of money after amassed for a month or two but the rest goes in our recycle can at home. When unwashed they attract all kinds of bugs and animals which is why they need to be cleaned out if we are to take them.**** I think that this and the other message covers all of the main issues. There is more to discuss if a related but separate group wants to be holding some child care sessions on the premises, but I think that should be via a conversation with all parties present to address issues of permits, security, insurance and likely additional rent.**** I think this is a fairly thorough response to most of the items, except the one (child care) that will require more discussion, because we don’t want to see anybody spend money for permitting or separate child care insurance until a more full understanding and agreement is made between all participating parties. Obviously, at this point in a lot of ways it would be much easier if the Sudo Room and related parties were to expand into some additional space so that more of our costs for that space are covered and so that we can put some better security features in place and have less worry about constantly having to clear out excess furnishings, objects and garbage that do not belong in the large common space, as well as our complete inability to rent out space to unrelated parties on any regular basis with the way the space is being used. At this point the headaches, stress, lack of sleep (for us) and stress on the building contents (i.e. walls, carpeting) and vulnerability of the building and its tenants are not aligned with the amount of rent received from your groups. That is not in any way to say that we don’t support and love what your groups are doing……just that we very much would like to have it work and be a win-win for all of us, without putting our other tenants at risk.**** Your thoughts would be much appreciated.**** Laurie**** ** ** ** ** ** ** *From:* Matthew Senate [mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, September 11, 2013 4:48 PM *To:* Laurie Cooperman Rosen *Subject:* Re: Children**** ** ** Laurie,**** ** ** Thanks for replying briefly, when do you expect you will be able to send a full response? We also need to address the incident on this past Saturday, which was another unacceptable confrontation and accusation.**** ** ** Thanks, Matt**** ** ** On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Laurie Cooperman Rosen <Lscoop(a)comcast.net> wrote:**** Hi Matt-**** I received your note and drafted a response that night, but didn’t mail it out because I wanted to make sure George has nothing to add first. You will have it this weekend. The number one concern (before even anything else) is that WE are not insured for this and have received no evidence of coverage from your group either. At this point everybody who has any visitors on a regular basis MUST have insurance coverage with us as named insureds, and we at this point need to enforce that. Next on the list are permitting related issues from the City of Oakland for children to be allowed in any kind of day care setting, and also arrangements that will need to be made by your group (and the School too) to take care of janitorial during and immediately after any group activities being held there. This is not necessarily inclusive, but a start. We can discuss the possibility of this happening (allowing children in eventually), but not until these and other issues are fully addressed. I apologize for the miscommunications on both sides that caused George to get upset about this and perhaps act too heated, but it was not without reason (given that he assumed that the communications had been disbursed), and for the time being we need to start with the insurance issue because it looks like that will be required because of all of the traffic whether children are able to use the space eventually or not.**** Sorry, I worked on the email and saved it and was waiting for George to have time to look at it. The first month always keeps us both hopping and we only pass like ships in the night!**** Laurie**** **** **** *From:* Matthew Senate [mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, September 06, 2013 1:38 PM *To:* Laurie Cooperman Rosen *Subject:* Re: Children**** **** Laurie,**** **** Please let me know when you have a chance to read our note, even if you are unable to respond immediately.**** **** Thanks, Matt**** **** On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate(a)gmail.com> wrote:**** Hi Laurie, **** This week George addressed a group of folks in the common area outside of Sudo Room and the Public School regarding the presence of minors in the building. His behavior was confrontational, hostile, loud, and very upsetting to many of those who were present, including some parentally-accompanied minors. There has unfortunately been a series of miscommunications about this issue, and we are dedicated foremost to resolving it amicably. **** First, thank you for communicating the building's policies on minors via email. Unfortunately, due to a lapse in our own internal communication, the contents of your email were not conveyed sufficiently to the relevant sudo room members before Wednesday of this week. Please understand this was a lapse in communication that has been rectified. **** Secondly, since early June, every Tuesday evening parent-supervised minors have attended sudo room. We provide no supervision services for minors. In fact, we provide no services to customers (we don't have customers) as we are a membership association. It was unclear that this event was specifically of any concern since it followed the requirement of supervision by parents. We are willing to meet the necessary requirements to ensure that you and George are provided with the appropriate advanced notification of any planned future sudo room events involving supervised minors and their parents. It is relevant to note that in the past we have allowed accompanied minors to be in the "Art Room" and not use common space, but in recent instances the common room has been used as well. Further, since we are interested in being as accessible as possible to different communities and demographics, we would like to clarify what opportunities there might be (through city services, insurance, waivers, etc.) for minors to be in the building in ways other than those outlined in your email. **** Thirdly, regarding the damage to the bathroom you discuss in your email, we understand your concerns and are sorry that it happened. We have raised awareness in hopes of preventing instances like this from happening in the future. While we are happy to take shared responsibility for ensuring the bathrooms are clean and usable, we want to communicate that we are not aware of any evidence that the minors who have been at sudo room were responsible for the damage. We fully support your desire to keep all parts of the space (including the bathrooms) vandalism-free, clean, and usable, so we have made all sudo room members aware of this incident, reinforced the expectations surrounding bathroom cleanliness, and reiterated the policy that children should not use bathrooms unaccompanied. Please let us know if you encounter any problems with the bathrooms in the future so that we can take appropriate action. However, we also ask for understanding that if there are problems with a shared space in the building, that absent specific evidence, sudo room may not have been the source of a particular problem. **** Finally, we would like to share with you a few of our expectations as lessees that we hope will help us continue to stay in this building that we have been very happy to rent for the last 9 months: **** Our Expectations: **** * That issues with our use of common space or our use of our rented "Art Room" be conveyed in writing, with disrespectful confrontations being completely unacceptable, in any circumstances. **** * Consistent with Sudo Room standards, that minors continue to be able to participate at Sudo Room, provided they are accompanied by parents or a legal guardian. **** * To work together with you as we grow, which requires we be accessible to more communities and demographics. **** * To consider options for mitigating liability through additional insurance, waivers, etc.**** Thanks, Matt**** **** **** ** **

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Discussion on Neurodegenerative disease - Idealab: Journal club - Tomorrow (Wed Sept 18th) at 5.30pm PST!

by Ryan Bethencourt

Dear All, Ever wonder what might be behind Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, ALS and many more neurodegenerative diseases? Could it be misfolded proteins? *Neurodegenerative diseases discussion - Idealab - Journal club - Tomorrow (Wed) 5.30pm PST Online video conference* Tomorrow (Wednesday) at 5.30pm PST, I'll be leading a discussion, co-hosted by Nina on Self-propagation of pathogenic protein aggregates in neurodegenerative diseases and I would love to have anyone that has experience or interest in the Neurodegenerative diseases to join us for broad ranging discussions! Please feel free to sign up below for the free Idealab discussion co-hosted by Nina and several Biohacker spaces/groups: http://www.meetup.com/Berkeley-Biolabs/events/138879892/ *Dedicating this discussion to Les Halpin:* I'd also like to dedicate this discussion to the patients who are suffering and need our help in finding cures to these terminal diseases and in particular a friend of mine, Les Halpin, who passed away at the weekend due to ALS. Les was a serial entrepreneur who funded a lot of research on ALS, was my fellow co-founder at Halpin Neurosciences (which led to the identification of J147 by Eric Valor for ALS) and he also developed the Halpin Protocol to accelerate the development of therapies for life threatening diseases in the UK. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10314789/Motor-neurone-disease… Come and join us for a discussion on Neurodegenerative diseases, protein misfolding and therapeutic interventions tomorrow! All the best, Ryan -- Ryan Bethencourt Tel: (415) 825 2705 Conf Call: (650) 741 5013 ryan.bethencourt(a)gmail.com http://www.litmususa.com/ http://berkeleybiolabs.com/ www.bamh1.com www.linkedin.com/in/bethencourt www.logos-press.com/books/biotechnology_business_development.php

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Fwd: Re: plan for empty bottles at sudo?

by Marina Kukso

hi everyone, just wanted to let everyone know about the fate of the bottles. i know you've all been waiting. - marina ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Raymond Lai <raymond.wm.lai(a)gmail.com> Date: Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:36 AM Subject: Re: Re: [sudo-discuss] plan for empty bottles at sudo? To: Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com> Cc: Vian <vian.veritas(a)gmail.com>, "Morten H. D. Fuglsang" < vallebo(a)gmail.com> Hello all, SudoMate can use the bottles. Vian is out of town, but when he comes back we can move the bottle out of sudo room. :) Cheers, Ray On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Do you guys need and/or plan to use all the bottles at sudo? > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Morten H. D. Fuglsang" <vallebo(a)gmail.com> > Date: Sep 15, 2013 3:11 PM > Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] plan for empty bottles at sudo? > To: "Marina Kukso" <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com> > > No, there is no plan. :) > > A subiir batch is approx 80 regular 12oz bottles, and we've found that > having around 150 bottles around is a good number because a) it fits inside > cupboards and b) it's sufficient for 2 batches of bottling. > > Sudomate brewing and bottling ops have moved to outside sudoroom, and I do > not know if the mate crew are relying on bottle collection from sudo room - > Ray / Vien (sp?), do you know? > > I'll take responsibility for clearing up the current bottle mess. I do not > know when. I've tried a bit of arranging before, but so far all attempts of > bottle-order have ended in bottle-chaos. Any suggestions welcome! > > > Make a great day, > Morten H. D. Fuglsang > US: +1 415 799 6931 // skype: FlyvendeHest > > > On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> there are many of them. they keep growing in number. do the folks who >> reuse the bottles have a timeline for when they plan to use them? >> >> - marina >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >> >> >

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the internet must go / film on open net neutrality

by Romy Ilano

http://www.theinternetmustgo.com/directorsnote/ This is very relevant to SudoRoom and would be great for a screening, right? the director Gena K. is also a really really great human being. <3

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My computer was PC Mag editors choice 2005

by Sonja Trauss

I have a Motion Computing LE1600 http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1817311,00.asp http://www.motioncomputing.com/support/support_legacy_specs.asp Get in the time machine. What should I go - I really like this computer. It's unusual, the stylus interface has been really useful in the past. As expected, 8 years on, it's almost unusable, but in a lot of ways it's a really great machine!! What should I do with this thing? Am I blinded by sentimental attachment? Can I replace the guts? I have never replaced a hard drive or anything like that. Is this a good garage project, or is it much too hard for a beginner? Any resources you like and want to pass on? Does anyone on this list want it? Maybe someone is a tablet enthusiast. It really is magically easy and fun to write and draw with. Please advise. Thanks for your attention, Sonja

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Fwd: [spaghettinight] [ot] people's community market

by Marina Kukso

hi everyone, my friend david has an excellent suggestion regarding the people's community market. i vote we join forces :) please see below. - marina ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Wild <davidnorbertwild(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:06 AM Subject: [spaghettinight] [ot] people's community market To: "spaghettinight(a)tentacle.net" <spaghettinight(a)tentacle.net> Hi all, I'm attending an info session this Wednesday to learn more about the People's Community Market. Anyone want to come with me? They have them every Wednesday 4-5pm in downtown Oakland; peoplescommunitymarket.com/2012/10/23/weekly-info-session/ . I was thinking it would be cool to gather funds to have a joint donation. The investment returns ("3% annual compound interest and 1% store credit") could be then used for future Spaghetti costs (noodles, wine, etc) or other further investments (tiny house village, bobby's brewery/skate park, etc). But before I make any formal propositions I thought going to an info session would be useful. If you are interested, they ask that you please RSVP at the link above. If you don't know anything about the project yet: http://peoplescommunitymarket.com/ Also, if you have insider info that I'm blind to right now--please let me know what you know! Best, David _______________________________________________ spaghettinight mailing list spaghettinight(a)tentacle.net Rabbit administers this list; email them at rabbitface(a)gmail.com if you have questions To unsubscribe send an email to spaghettinight-leave(a)tentacle.net https://tentacle.net/mailman/listinfo/spaghettinight

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Crypto Class email list

by Gregg Horton

Join up if you're interested! http://groups.google.com/d/forum/sudo-crypto-class

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Rants

by Romy Ilano

Regarding negativity... At various hackerspaces I've been to I've had people abruptly come up to me and rant about their left wing political cause or gender issues or belief about Gmo food or political party This is something I do too. I'm becoming more mindful but it's some,thing to be aware of wig regard to welcoming minorities etc Getting lectured by a fatherly left wing guy is a common trope for me,... Sometimes these speeches rub me as paternal and cult like Peace out and hope everyone is having a great Saturday!!! Rock on

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jake's idea for sudoroom membership structure

by Jake

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 i confess i have no idea how to properly edit the membership wiki to add my ideas. So i will just type them here, and maybe someone can help me put them into the wiki properly. Sudo room/membership Do we have it? I think sudoroom does not currently have a membership structure in place. We are currently existing in a (most of the time) benevolent anarchy, resulting from equal parts luck, hard work by caring people, and security by obscurity. I think we SHOULD have membership, which is clearly defined and binary (either you are a member in good standing, or a nonmember for whatever reason). There should be a list of members which can be publicly accessed, with enough information about each member that they can be identified by any member (a description or picture provided by the member themselves) since we don't all "know" each other. I think membership should be something that is in exchange for ONGOING contribution to the community, as defined (continually) by the membership, on a person by person basis. For example, $10 per month might be accepted by one person as sufficient, but another person might be required to pay $40 per month. Or the group can decide that a persons offer to "clear and sweep the floor once a week" is sufficient. Also the community should be able to refuse someone's membership, even if they are a current member who has been making their required contribution. Also the community should be able to change the requirement from a person based on information from them or anyone, to a higher or lower or different requirement. The community should be able to declare that a person has not fulfilled their requirement and is, until they return to that requirement, temporarily not a member. Does it [membership] confer special privelages? I think that membership should confer special privelages including access to the space even if it is closed, for any community-approved uses. A member can be there when no one else is there if they want to be. Also while anyone can participate in discussions at meetings, only members can vote (or block consensus items). I think a member should be able to "sponsor" a nonmember (or multiple of them) WHILE they are present in the space. This way nonmembers can use the space any time a member who supports them is present, which should be easy for nonmembers who use the space properly in a cooperative way. And for all nonmembers wanting to use the space, their sponsor can help them use the space properly. I think that nonmembers should be nominally granted up to 24 added-up hours of access to the space without a specific sponsor. This part is subtle and I urge people to think about the total effect of this "pseudo policy" before objecting. If a nonmember behaves badly before they have used up 24 hours they can be asked to leave by a member, of course. And if a nonmember behaves well it is likely that no one will even point out when their "24 hours" appears to have expired. are there expectations of members, do they have responsibilities? I think that all members should promise not to leave the space open without a member present. This means that when an awesome nonmember is working on a project and you're the last member and you want to leave, you have to decide between staying to help them or asking them to return when the space is open. It is also a good time to remind them that by contributing in a community-approved way, they can have 24-7 access. One reason for members making this promise to each other is because members have accountability to one another, and were approved at a meeting, and can be contacted with questions by other members, and can be trusted. However that trust does not extend to strangers and we must respect the process of meetings and accountability when we are not present to act as an advocate or translator for a nonmember we want to support. Some practical reasons for not allowing nonmembers in the space alone include security of property and materials, projects and tools. But also, the organization of the space and functionality of it is tied to human effort to make it a usable space. People who are members are contributors to the space in one way or another, and they contribute toward the usability of the space. It isn't fair to our fellow contributors to allow others to use and take from that space when we ourselves are not willing to supervise our own guests' use of the space. How do you become a member? People who want to become a member of the space must meet members of the space and learn about membership and the space. They need to announce to the membership, through the discuss list, that they want to become a member and answer responses to their post so that members who might come to a meeting will be satisfied with their reasons for wanting to join. Also, use of the mailinglist demonstrates a basic ability to communicate and be accountable to other members in case they are accepted. After making their desires known, they will come to meetings to get to know people, and announce that they would like to become a member. They can discuss with the group what kind of contribution they feel comfortable making, based on their income or free time levels, and in the case of nonmonetary contributions, how they propose their contributions be tracked (could be an email declaring that they cleaned the space at 3PM today and saw certain members there who saw it happen) I think that we should not do like noisebridge and expect a secret discussion, or expect a specific timeline for consideration of membership. If a person makes their bid for membership on the list and shows up to the nearest meeting after that, they should not expect to achieve membership for at least another week while the possiblity for objections is there. At their first meeting the announcement having been made, one week should be sufficient time for the membership to bring out any uncertainties. If a person is a member of the space, they should not have any less accountability to the space than a nonmember (on the contrary). This means that a member can be discussed at a meeting for questionable behavior and if necessary, have their membership revoked by the group. Consensus Minus One would be nice for this purpose but is too limiting in practice, because we hackers tend to be contrary and side with the underdog to a fault. If a large portion of the membership agrees that a person is not a good fit for the space, the minority should not ask them to put aside their discomfort without convincing them of the reasons in dialogue. Why is this necessary? As I said in the beginning, i feel that sudoroom is riding on a streak of luck and hard work at the moment, and that we can't expect this to continue in the face of entropy. We already have and will continue to see abuse of the space by people who have no feelings of accountability, and our members have no recourse or policy to address anything like that. I know from experience what results from this, and it is sad. The failure of Sudoroom would not be a sufficiently educational experience to justify allowing it to happen, when the lessons we would learn have been offered so many times in other places. We talk about the challenge of diversity in a hackerspace like ours. One thing we don't seek is diversity of people who are good and bad for what we're trying to do. We do not invite drug dealers to sudoroom to sell meth to people from the street outside, even though it would please them greatly if they could use our space. We don't invite meth addicts to browse our hacking materials shelves to find copper and aluminum to recycle so they can buy more drugs. We also should not invite people to the space who are unwilling to behave in a way that is respectful to the members and guests whose interests we share, and want to share. That means that, despite our aversion to exclusion, we need to choose between excluding some or excluding others. For example, if we refuse abusive or disrespectful behavior and those who insist on it, we create an accessible space for people who avoid that behavior. If we maintain an atmosphere of cooperation and care for each other and the hardware that is our space, we invite people from all backgrounds who seek to do the same things. On the other hand, if we refuse this responsibility, we allow the tone to be set by those with the loudest voice, and the least to lose, and the quiet and self-respecting people will go elsewhere. I ask that we look to the future to envision the challenges we can expect as we continue to grow and do more awesome things, and think about what we hope to achieve. That is why we need to protect ourselves, each other, and our hackerspace, from complacency and entropy as best we can. well, I feel that i have said more than enough about it for now, but if anyone has opinions on this i look forward to continuing the discussion. - -jake -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.21 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSNPBmAAoJEN7XJKHgSSB182gP/00w2SXQSH1P+6Ctp43OnSeo dHRneibcUo9QjXJeENONeLXtrB2B2qEgJvb1ePDCFDT93Z/Iw5Rtp83CZ8WYywxj zNx5cPVkfffac0hgBL79k9dYhuDYD81kqgOk4EHuow1E7ZiNmezqGhkYBuEtm+YU +u4QZN0+I9W7smjFLFr3XnQOz3x6IdjC4w2NchqVkXoGlKlwpsyLMykmFjI4SyaY QxZUJ+YzeBqhUMPGV9w2DY9C/gL9LjvjLl33jO71xWrNb1ojRmAbFc7UgEUHKces KwLgWRChp/g4h75Nge9uTkqs/ETgtpDeYjbP8yrSp154wYJUpSPqiduFKJCdpTCD au6Da2qP7Th/uWSiGMBoEr7wOBGV13HOQUOF5mYb1nW9zB+0EQMYzKk/T+cUcRQW y4l8H9j11Y0JXfPrbQm1YwRVLcHEyKSHbV/crjXn+jY6YSePr49Mhcb+hzLOz80E cg1/iHDk20SD7L/7aNQONkO8LgtCIZO+pO6QT2v8OM3i/6YKp2j5dC4yoRMysJRp TjkI6uW/fi2NEz2ULQaif6zaJ9Ac47XoNzmYU6a1/Jw+oiZ8lNjgQBD7s13epEHP /Df3SRZcRO8JVKoN/c4yLyORlvVbn7FV++A87nsD4+NeZjTx3OlFG+McXXo+4RKS 9CragepqbGfJyZ9GIRl7 =tNc2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Fwd: Tenant Statement, 2141 Broadway & Invitations!!

by Matthew Senate

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Laurie Cooperman Rosen <Lscoop(a)comcast.net> Date: Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 3:34 PM Subject: Tenant Statement, 2141 Broadway & Invitations!! To: exchequer(a)sudoroom.org Cc: eddan(a)eddan.com, mattsenate(a)gmail.com Dear Tenants at 2131-2147 Broadway: I apologize for the group message this month, but my email has been down for 24 hours and I have a limited amount of time in which to send out sooo many messages! There are 2 attachments to this email: first, there is your normal monthly bill. PG&E was lower than normal this month (keep up the good work!), especially for this time of year! Next, there is a flyer inviting you to an event that we'll be having at 2141 Broadway on 9/15, from 3-5pm. Abeba Wright, aka "The Krazy Kracker Lady" a dear friend of mine and well-known author in the raw food world (nationally and internationally!) will be doing one of her wonderfully creative lectures/demonstrations in the big space and adjacent front conference room area. Advance reservations strongly suggested by 9/5 because she needs to make enough krackers in advance for a lot of folks and making a lot of a variety of raw "Krackers" takes a lot of time, and she's a master! Instructions for registering are on the attached flyer. "Raw Daddy", the equally well-known raw cone-maker filled with the most creative sweet and savory fillings imaginable will also be on hand for those that want to purchase his creations. Get ready for a new world of creations to tantalize your taste buds if you haven't seen these two chefs before! Then, there is MORE! It is also George's Birthday on 9/15, and we will segue into a Party for him shortly after the meetup ends, from 6-9pm! There will be even more food, drink and possibly some live music too! Please join us for a memorable afternoon and evening of fun! Please RSVP to us as well, so we can plan for the catering accordingly! See you soon Laurie

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foundational bio / hacking TIL this sat

by Praveen Sinha

Hihi, I'll be doing a foundational bio hacking TIL this sat at sudoroom! Alexander and Andre who are badass nano-biohackers will be backing me up. We'll be covering the basics of how DNA, RNA, proteins and gene splicing works. Hope to see you there! Love and Peace! https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Today_I_Learned#September_14_:_Understanding_DNA_…

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plan for empty bottles at sudo?

by Marina Kukso

there are many of them. they keep growing in number. do the folks who reuse the bottles have a timeline for when they plan to use them? - marina

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this thurs at wikimedia fndn: chicktech social (women in tech event)

by Marina Kukso

https://chicktechatwikimedia.eventbrite.com/ - marina ps - who comes up with the names for these groups >_< i guess the founder will be there so i can ask her :D

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