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by David Keenan

Hey everyone, I hope this wont seem weird to formally announce this, but I decided tonight that if I am gonna attend any meeting, I am going to attend the whole meeting all the way through to its initially-slated / official ending-time, or I will just not attend. I decided it is just too disrespectful to others to hop in and out of meetings before they are slated to be finished, even if it is for other, equally pressing omni business (which has, in every case I can think of, been the only reason I have ever felt compelled to do so.) Therefore I respectfully ask anyone that feels I personally need to step away to attend to something else or answer a query, or even wants a quick sidebar on somethin at a given merting, simply not ask but wait until the meeting is done - barring of course some sort of all-out emergency. By the same token, if a meeting runs over its running time, I may have to leave that meeting at some point thereafter - and I sincerely hope that no one at that extended meeting will be offended if I do so at that point - I encourage others to try this model with me, which I probably should have been following all along. Honestly, I am really not the best multitasker in the world (as I am sure this is already readily apparent to everyone anyhow), so I dont know why I tried to attempt otherwise. I hope this doesn't seem narcissistic or anything to announce publicly - as if its sooo important somehow - but I just want to make sure moving forward, that no one is offended if I have to defer talking to em (or otherwise engage with another matter) right away whilst I am still in a meeting, or have to leave a meeting that is running over. Love to all, David

11 years, 10 months

Legs for tables

by niki

Hello! I have been thinking about making some legs for turning those hollow core doors into tables when needed. I came across this recently: *http://www.thefloydleg.com/story-of-the-leg/ <http://www.thefloydleg.com/story-of-the-leg/>* and thought.. we could make something like that!! I only have some rudimentary soldering skills, but I'd really like to learn more heavy duty welding / metallurgy. Anyone here have experience with that at all? Anyone interested in working on a project like this with me? Not necessarily tomorrow, but in the not-too-distant future? xo N

11 years, 10 months

Fwd: [omnilogistics] Call for early birds! 7am caravan dump run tomorrow!

by David Keenan

If anyone can help - helllla early - this is muy importanto! thanks everybody! :) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Jenny Ryan* Date: Friday, July 25, 2014 Subject: [omnilogistics] Call for early birds! 7am caravan dump run tomorrow! To: omnilogistics Cc: Rikke Rasmussen, "J.C. Cooper" Thanks to everybody who helped load the truck tonight with all the Omni detritus! And extra thanks to David K (who spent hours literally demolishing the heavy wooden furniture) and Rikke (who brought her box truck and coordinated, somehow, everything fitting perfectly like a game of box truck tetris). But! We need to make the dump run _tomorrow morning_ as Rikke and JC have prior obligations to help with the Noisebridge Reboot [1] and need the truck empty by noon! We will be meeting at 7am outside of the Omni with an extra vehicle for a few folks who can help us unload the truck at the dump. Or you can meet us at the commercial waste dump, which is 3 blocks from the Coliseum BART stop. If you can meet at this time (7am tomorrow/today), please contact me before 6:30am. We'll be checking with the dump at 6am to ensure they will allow an un-dumping vehicle to enter the premises, or if they will voluntarily help with unloading. Love, Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://thepyre.org http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`

11 years, 10 months

BLOCK OFF YELLOW ZONE & space behind asap?

by David Keenan

Can anyone at Omni block off the loading zone and the space behind it for the truck that's coming to remove the debris situation outside Omni on 48th? Can I also get all available hands to help load the truck up from at least 8pm on tonight? I know the OOC meeting will probably run late, but we need some bodies to help load up that truck. If we do not load up the truck, we risk getting cited for obstruction and that could be several hundred dollars at this point considering the amount of stuffs. I've arranged with J.C. & Ricky to bring their box truck to Omni in a couple hours so we can do a dump run. They will have to be remunerated. I don't know what it will be but it should be under $600 total. John had scheduled with Waste Management for bulky pickup (which was also going to be expensive due to the amount and type of stuff) but they flaked for 2 days, then said they can't take ceiling tiles, or broken-up furniture, or actually pretty much anything we have out there, so it will have to be hauled. Other options like a dumpster was explored but this was really expensive and we would not get it for days (at least $750 + cost of parking obstruction permit from city = over ~$1000). I don't anticipate the cost of hauling exceeding $600 but this will have to be assessed by Ricky, JC et al with the truck. Note the cost of disposal will mostly be on john but partly on OOC. That's because John doesn't think he should have to pay for e.g. the disposal of the ceiling tiles from the bookstore-cafe (that collective should pay for that), or actually, the extra 3 big wardrobes removed from CCL/Sudo room, or of our garbage that we did not put out on Tuesday, etc. The exact portion we are responsible for needs to be negotiated a bit with John (I don't think this will not be a big deal), but re: the wardrobes for example, as John expressed, since Sudo took 3 of them and we are keeping one in the ballroom (4 total), we are also responsible for the other 3 we don't need - it was a take them all or take none sort of deal (yar can perhaps speak better to this). So who is responsible for what on our side will need to be sorted out, I figure our responsibility is about 30%. We had probably 7-8 bags of garbage and many, many bags of ceiling tiles, the wardrobes were big and heavy, etc. David

11 years, 10 months

Meeting Notes

by Jenny Ryan

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey sudoers, Here's the tl;dr version of tonight's meeting. Thanks for everyone who showed up, paid attention and participated. We had a lot to wade through! * OMNI ACCESS: More caution around access to the Omni during these transitionary summer months is needed. If you open the door for someone, make sure you either know they're a member, or if they're a guest, take accountability for them. Give tours. Perhaps end the tour back at the door if you feel that's wise. ** Suggestions to the issue of access included signage both outside the door (that we're not yet open to the public) and inside (process for dealing with visitors); designated 'open hours' or a 'Newbie Night' with designated greeters; clarification/accessibility of membership list, otherwise non-members should be sponsored by a member or leave. * CONSENSUS WROUGHT: Sudo Room agrees to pay into Omni's standing funds for July (we would otherwise not have had to pay rent for July, but decided to contribute to the Omni Collective's near-term resilience and operating expenses. (10 unanimous yays) * CONSENSUS WROUGHT: Sudo Room agrees that the Omni should pay our lawyer ($816), though the larger bill's invoice should be documented transparently prior to consensus. (10 unanimous yays) * OMNI VOTING PROCEDURE PROPOSAL: A general sense expressed that the current proposal is overly simplistic and dangerously susceptible to manipulation by interested parties who block a vote to turn it toward majority rule. Suggestion that the Omni delineate the kinds of decisions it makes and how to go about voting for them (for example, Sudo Room's process calls for a 2/3 majority vote in conflict resolution procedures, full consensus for changes to our Articles, etc;) * CONSENSUS PROPOSAL: "If the Omni Oakland Collective or any of its member collectives bans a person from its space for reasons of safety,that person is immediately and automatically banned from Sudoroom." (10 unanimous yays by 8 members and 2 provisional members) * NEW MEMBERS: ** Liz finally voted in after 2 weeks without quorum! hooray!! ** Whitney: Civil engineer, working on a public art piece, working with electronics, want to learn, contribute, share tools; working on a property access gate and wants to learn more about hardware and wiring. Daniel says Whitney has shown his interest in Sudo. ** Torrie Fischer: Ohioan, started Synhack hackerspace. Came to Bay Area and was inspired by Noisebridge to start Synhack. C, python, linux, machinist, construction; helping w/ noisebridge reboot; wants to participate in a variety of communities. Torrie helped a member with soldering. ** TJ Mosely: Electrical engineer, nuclear engineering. Interested in power systems, embedded systems. Based in Oak / San Leandro, etc; wants to build a doggie treadmill. TJ volunteered today for hours on Omni construction. * CONFLICT RESOLUTION: Accusation that Phil is complicit with state surveillance. This is not necessarily a two-party situation, as Daniel is speaking for the safety and livelihood of others. Call for solidarity. ** Conflict Steward: Whitney ** Mediator: Hol Notes recorded for posterity at: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2014-07-23 - -- Jenny http://jennyryan.net http://sudomesh.org http://thevirtualcampfire.org http://technomadic.tumblr.com `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." - -Laurie Anderson "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it." -Hannah Arendt "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." - -Stéphane Mallarmé ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJT0MCzAAoJEHTWWpBUSeDhxMwH/AxuhdlDUy0E8bMaGugEKiXc C485nSLUQTA3sVLKhdZ8s+T7FOnwN6ajmtqq/lKJ7ctAbDS9wSV09vk4nzND0VDT QAK/2XeOy+ETaCkPiqnVx81y4n3opDW5qTDuHdis7XpkzlGWUgNQNwtSO2NCoFwr d9LJKVzt3l/ahiyPRon7CV6xVhad59yXuBbQIoNg698euWH6W2LSWe8vwzTOzZ8H w6tCMEdLIok2nLtj0buStdn6xPjj9p75E7tLqh0WVe2zc7LB8v04cksX2x1xBrCv XDB6JUyWUL0vQ2aUlTNBAOS8kuCo/3Y3ySCAa1DuftlgXJh1if8/j84OzTq80ho= =GqII -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

11 years, 10 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] status of meetups formerly meeting at 2141?

by yar

On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 4:29 PM, <hol(a)gaskill.com> wrote: > i'm curious how many meetups we have regrouped at 4799 after the move. i > noticed js meetup is now happening at a bar about a block from our old spot. Yeah, and the Oakland Privacy Working Group seems to be meeting at Impact Hub. I think it's partly the disruption of the move, and partly the location. 2141 was more centrally located in the city. We should accept that some groups will decide other places are better for them, and find the new groups that do want to meet at our new space. There will be a lot of them! > i hope > we find a solid footing in the new neighborhood and keep welcoming new > members and visiting groups a priority. cheers. Agreed!

11 years, 10 months

Re: [sudo-discuss] [omnilogistics] CCL is moving in on Friday eve!!

by yar

On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 6:28 AM, Cere Misc <cere.misc(a)gmail.com> wrote: > HUGE shout out to all the people who helped but up and clear stuff > from the CCL side of the Bocci room during the last couple of days! > > Now that we have room, CCL will continue cleaning and have a very > active moving-stuff-in session on Friday eve! Yay! Noise will > happen. Please schedule accordingly. This is exciting! Yay! I can't wait to see the new CCL space.

11 years, 10 months

CCL is moving in on Friday eve!!

by Cere Misc

HUGE shout out to all the people who helped but up and clear stuff from the CCL side of the Bocci room during the last couple of days! Now that we have room, CCL will continue cleaning and have a very active moving-stuff-in session on Friday eve! Yay! Noise will happen. Please schedule accordingly. Thanks, Cere

11 years, 10 months

laser cutter

by Jake

i have visited two hackerspaces here in Toronto, including http://hacklabs.to and http://torontotoollibrary.com and it's clear that a hackerspace needs a laser cutter. Sudoroom doesn't have one yet, so we should start thinking about which one we will get. I heard we had $12,000.00 too much in the bank, and here at TTL they have a HUGE laser cutter called the Lasersaur. It's a kit, sortof, but it's a very serious machine. It uses a 100 watt laser! and that means it can cut through 3/4" plywood (in multiple passes) http://www.lasersaur.com/ okay maybe we're not ready for something like this quite yet, but when we're ready we should keep it in mind. We can skip over the step of getting a cheap lame cutter like those other hackerspaces. speaking of other hackerspaces, hacklabs has one from Universal Laser Systems that they got off Craigslist for $500 because the controller was fried. They built a motor control system (the hard way) and then they had a nice laser cutter! I think it's 25 watts. -jake

11 years, 10 months

Robotics enthusiast needed for perverse bloody performance art project

by Kevin Laird

Hello Sudoroomers. I spoke to some of you in person and they recommended i use the listserv to speak to more of you at once. I am *NOT* a member of the listserv so if you respond to my message *please* email me off list at thegayscience(a)gmail.com. I'm looking for someone with an interest in and operant knowledge of robotics who can help me build an unguided, fast-moving robotic filing cabinet on wheels. My intention is to battle it with a hammer, naked, in a crowded room. I intend to get injured, but not as injured as the filing cabinet. I am looking for someone who can help me create this-not someone who can provide guidance or advice. I'm afraid the learning curve is just too steep for me, and i'm too busy, between working full time, participating in the growth of Omnispace and developing a (seperate, unrelated) dance project. I would provide all the necessary materials. The filing cabinet would have to move fast enough to hurt me, but not fast enough to *really* hurt me. It must be unguided because its necessary that 1. i am battling it and not a human user somewhere and 2. It must have the potential to injure my audience as well. It must have a minimum of three axes of movement. Other than that the sky is the limit. I'm willing to discuss compensation, that is money, for your help. If i have piqued your interest, email me back and we can meet (i'm at omni space often) and i can provide more details/rationale if you need that. Thanks! -Kevin

11 years, 10 months

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