I am hoping we continue to occupy the current location under more favorable terms. The access to not only BART, but city government, assemblies, events, community is appealing.
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Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Fwd: The Omni
From: David Keenan <dkeenan44(a)gmail.com>
To: "sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org" <sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org>
CC: Re: [sudo-discuss] Fwd: The Omni
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[View More]Eddan for clarifying.
Im sad i missed the joint meeting with CCL re: moving in - we definitely need more meatspace strategizing on making a 3-way move like that happen -
I'm really happy that marina and y'all are checking out the Omni and other potential spaces - I'm going to start looking pretty hard and get BAPSers in on this too - sounds like a guesstimated combo sudo/baps/ccl monthly budget would be ~$4500, does that seem about right?
Re: SUDO moving into the Omni, it sounds super cool and personally I have no problem with the location - but I do think if there are ppl living in the space, that might make it challenging - conversely if there are lots of loud shows there, that might make having a class tough? And more or less importantly.. are there windows in the Omni space? It's be great if whatever space SUDO moved to had more natural light..
On Monday, September 30, 2013, Eddan Katz wrote:
Terminating the current lease means the latter, David. That is - at that point, a new/better lease can be negotiated. Or not, if so decided.
While the details on what a co-op purchase would look like still have to be hammered out in detail, it was my understanding from George that he was interested in an arrangement that would include selling off equity in that portion. Different organizations would put up money in their collective shares and that wing would be organized as a co-op with the different organizational/individual owners taking part in the decision-making of managing the building.
On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:05 PM, David Keenan wrote:
Hey guys,
Regarding leaving 2141 and scoping out new spaces..
I was hoping someone could fill me in on what is really meant by deciding we are officially 'terminating the lease' in Dec. ?
Does it mean we are definitely out of 2141 come Jan., ie, we definitely dont want to stay at 2141? Has that been decided?
Or, would we have the opportunity to negotiate a new/better lease if we did decide to keep on at 2141?
Re: a co-op purchase of part of 2141, what are the brass tacks of that exactly? I..e, do we have however many tens of thousands I imagine we would need for most mortgage downpayments? Is there some angel investor here I dunno about?
Along the same lines what are our real-world options with respect buying the church, or part of the Omni? Or are we just talking about renting part of the omni?
Personally, I'd prefer to move, but move with BAPS, SUDO, and CCL. It kind of seems like maybe we should find a good place to move to, and understand what our combined budget is. if SUDO moves out without BAPS that would suck for BAPS and also mean that SUDO would probably get a smaller space than we would get if we combined forces, synchronized, and all moved somewhere together (or mayber stayed at 2141 together, under more amenable conditions). Staying together being the operative word to me here..
Best.
David
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 10:46 AM, David Rorex <drorex(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso(a)gmail.com> wrote:
*Half the room will still be avavilable, and could be Sudo's for approx $2k/month.
How many square feet are we getting in exchange for that $2k?
*It is 10 minutes walk from McArthur BART
That's not too bad, obviously closer is better, and MacArthur is not a very safe area at night, but it's oakland, what are you gonna do
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Tracy Jacobs <kinetical(a)comcast.net> wrote:
You do realize that's very close to Ace Monster Toys? If Sudo room moves up to the Berkeley Border, it would make sense to join with Ace Monster Toys. Also, in my opinion that is way too far from Bart, and way too far from where I live, so I would probably not ever go there.
Sounds like an interesting space though, and that is a better neighborhood than where AMT is now. Maybe they would be interested in this space?
Tracy
It's 1.4 mi away, which is relatively close, though not a super convenient walking distance. However they are looking for bigger cheaper spaces (minimum 3000 sq ft, and at most $1/sqft), so I'm not sure this would work. Also they have a requirement that anything over 2500sqft MUST have overhead sprinklers. That combined with the noise constraints might be an issue, since AMT has lots of big noisy toys (large CNC router tables, laser cutters, power saws, etc)
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Hi sudo room and public school!
People from sudo room, the public school and counter culture labs are
showing up at 7 pm today (friday) to talk about the possibility of moving
in together.
Come join if you want to be part of the discussion!
--
Marc Juul
Hi! I'm new to Oakland/SudoRoom, so this may be the completely wrong
place to ask this... but can anyone recommend a good electrician to
run phone cables? Ideally one who is available on the weekends?
Zee
Yes, the building itself is certainly not worth a lot/if anything. It was
built by one of the founders of that specific church, some 4-7 decades ago.
One of the churchgoers' fathers I believe. But hey! with some creativity,
skill and hard work anything is possible, and building new dwelling(s)
doesn't necessarily have to be a 2 year project.
Might even be possible to get for less than 400k.
Make a great day,
Morten H. D. Fuglsang
US: +1 415 799 6931 // skype: FlyvendeHest
On Fri, Sep 27, …
[View More]2013 at 4:03 PM, David Wild <davidnorbertwild(a)gmail.com>wrote:
> rad, max.
>
> you seem to know a thing or two about group financing. but for more info I
> bet you could get advice on group purchasing from this crew who is starting
> a community nexus in north oakland. check them out:
> https://www.facebook.com/theomniproject . they recently acquired a huge
> lot on shattuck behind creative reuse!
>
> i can put you in touch with one of the founding members if you like!
>
> -dw
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Max Klein <isalix(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> ==What?==
>> There is a church that has gone bankrupt, and their property is for sale.
>>
>> 2439 Adeline Street
>> Oakland, CA 94607
>>
>> The appraisal value is $500k, but it is not on the market yet. (Appraisal
>> pdf attached). So my feeling is that we can make an offer for somewhere
>> around $400k if we organize quickly.
>>
>> There are some pictures in the appraisal PDF.
>>
>> I have set up an appointment to View the church at 8pm on Tuesday 1st
>> October. I'm inviting you to come see if you want.
>>
>> ==Communal Buying==
>> There are several ways to buy the property. I am intrigued by a
>> multi-buyer shared-equity approach. Where everybody that pays not
>> necessarily equal amounts, owns equity in not necessarily equal amounts.
>>
>> There has also been an offer of lender financing if we put $178k down.
>>
>> I am open to creative solutions.
>>
>> ==Potential Uses==
>> Currently it is zoned "CIX" commercial-industrial mix. That means that
>> officially you can only use one-third of the space for living. If we were
>> to get a mortgage we would need a business license. Of course thought once
>> you own it, there isn't zoning police that check what you do with it.
>>
>> So we could make this into housing, hostel, a venue, keep it a church,
>> have a tiny house village on the back bit.
>>
>> Again I am open to creative solutions.
>>
>> ==Get in touch==
>> If you want to come to the viewing, please email or call me (7074787023).
>>
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Subject: Raw Food Meetup Group - 11/3/2013 Confirmed for Large Space
Date: Fri, Sep 27, 2013 20:17
Hi All-Since I didn’t get word of any conflicts I have scheduled our Raw Foods Meetup Group for 11/3 with Heather …
[View More]Haxo Philips teaching a Fermentation Class. Setup 2-3, class 3-5, clean-up 5-6 (Sunday afternoon). I would also like to schedule a similar time for December 14th unless you have anything scheduled. Please let me know ASAP.Thank you!Laurie
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Hello All,
==What?==
There is a church that has gone bankrupt, and their property is for sale.
2439 Adeline Street
Oakland, CA 94607
The appraisal value is $500k, but it is not on the market yet. (Appraisal
pdf attached). So my feeling is that we can make an offer for somewhere
around $400k if we organize quickly.
There are some pictures in the appraisal PDF.
I have set up an appointment to View the church at 8pm on Tuesday 1st
October. I'm inviting you to come see if you want.
==Communal …
[View More]Buying==
There are several ways to buy the property. I am intrigued by a multi-buyer
shared-equity approach. Where everybody that pays not necessarily equal
amounts, owns equity in not necessarily equal amounts.
There has also been an offer of lender financing if we put $178k down.
I am open to creative solutions.
==Potential Uses==
Currently it is zoned "CIX" commercial-industrial mix. That means that
officially you can only use one-third of the space for living. If we were
to get a mortgage we would need a business license. Of course thought once
you own it, there isn't zoning police that check what you do with it.
So we could make this into housing, hostel, a venue, keep it a church, have
a tiny house village on the back bit.
Again I am open to creative solutions.
==Get in touch==
If you want to come to the viewing, please email or call me (7074787023).
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Tomorrow if you join us you might be saying Today I Learned cool things
about brain-inspired algorithms, and then had fun with
PyBrain<http://pybrain.org/>afterwards. Jointly with Counter Culture
labs, this:
Study of the brain has inspired algorithms that seek to emulate how it
functions for as long as practical computers have existed with which to try
these algorithms out. We'll look at some of the most notable of these and
find out how our understanding of the brain has given us …
[View More]powerful tools to
solve difficult problems. Get a better handle on your noggin and how it
might work with an algorithmic tour of the brain.
· Cerebellum ― Cerebellar Model Articulation Controller
· Cortex ― Perceptrons, Liquid State Networks, Long Short-Term Memory
· Hippocampus ― Hopfield network
· Thalamus ― Scale-free network Integrated systems ― Miikkulainen's
DISCERN & artificial schizophrenia experiments
· Tools & future directions
Experience as a brain owner is all that is required! We'll start at a
conceptual level suitable for the curious layperson and go deeper into the
technical details according to your interests.
http://www.meetup.com/Counter-Culture-Labs/events/140945552/
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hey all,
the awesome foundation <http://www.awesomefoundation.org/> appears to have
expanded its chapter system beyond "fund awesome things in x city" to
include specific topic areas such as open
web<http://www.awesomefoundation.org/en/chapters/openweb>&
food <http://www.awesomefoundation.org/en/chapters/food>.
the awesome foundation model involves 10 people commiting $100 a month into
a single $1000 grant awarded every month. the ten people then pick the
grantee based …
[View More]on criteria they all agree on.
awesome foundation is accepting new chapters and from my understanding it's
not difficult to get approved. i am wondering if there is enough interest
and disposable $$ in our various communities to create a sudo- or bach- or
other topic-specific awesome foundation chapter.
to gauge the number of people who would be interested in something like
this and what kind of topic they'd like to support, please fill out yet
another google form:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/19hKmF0LODOcisqAzPPP2tlOprm-jWaisI_3GTZbKS-…
the results should be visible to everyone.
please feel free to fwd to others (bay area and non-bay-area..who cares -
we have the internet!)
i'll follow up in a week.
- marina
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Hello Sudoers!
Tomorrow, Saturday 9/28 at 2 PM!
Alexander Honkala and I will be teaching another class. Last time, we covered some basic tenets of molecular biology, and tried to give you all a topical view of systems biology as well as comfort with the idea of coding your biology with some bio-hacking nanoparticles and/or viruses.
This time around, we will be covering "boorganic chemistry", as well as the basics of pharmacology. We will delve into methods of creating awesome molecules that …
[View More]mimic your biology, and how to use those molecules to build larger assemblies of molecules that can do stuff. Time constraints in mind, we will move at a pace that is comfortable for everyone. We want you to taste how your body interacts with things, and how it makes things to interact with itself.
Hope to see many of you there!
-AW
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Ligandal Technology
(978) 496-4635
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