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by Andrew

Hi All, Has anyone seen the 4x4 keypad thats been laying around the space for a while? Its got a regular set of buttons you would find on a touch tone phone plus A - D? PS losing this will not delay the door project as i have a spare, but that one already had headers sodered on. Thanks, Andrew

12 years, 10 months

Fwd: Re: Fwd: [Noisebridge-discuss] Consensus on Barring Shawn Landden from the Noisebridge space and community (Was Re: On Asking People To Leave (Was Re: Shawn L. ))

by netdiva

I think while its apparent that a discussion on issues of privilege, who is sheltered from what types of harm by existing social structures, and related topics are beyond the reach of this discussion, some of the statements i'm seeing in this sound like garden variety victim blaming. If that many people had been that overwhelmed by him, there wouldnt be criminal charges on record. On 3/23/2013 8:42 PM, Naomi Most wrote: > Yeah... I'm going to chime in here to perhaps add some perspective as > to why it did take so long. > > Shawn seemed like a pretty decent guy. I thought he was a little > skeezy (he was always heaping more attention on the ladies at > Noisebridge than was warranted by normal dictates of conversation / > situation) ... > > ...but I just figured "slut", not > multiple-misdemeanors-warrant-for-his-arrest-etc. > > And I'm (probably) a lot more socially aware than most hackers. I'm > also pretty fearless for someone of my gender. > > What that means is that someone like Shawn instinctively goes after > women full of fear and self-doubt, who don't see his manipulation > coming. > > So while people like me, who interacted with Shawn on a very regular > basis (he was there almost every afternoon I happened to be there), > figured, "hm okay, nice enough guy, here a lot, whatever..." he was > able to throw down some major bullshit in other social territories. > > When you've got victims being fearful and unconfident people in the > first place, it's extremely unlikely they will come forward about > whatever happened to them. > > And in this case, the victims all (reportedly) said, when they were > approached about his actions, "I thought I was the only one!" The > subtext of a declaration like that is, "I thought there was something > wrong with me, so I didn't want to tell anyone." > > ... > > I hope that helps. > > The huge question Noisebridge is presently dancing around right now > is, how many of our current cultural disturbances are based on > Noisebridge being broken, and how many are basically inevitable > outgrowths of NB having grown to 10 x Dunbar's Number in community > size? > > My money's on situations like Shawn L. coming up again, and not > because NB is broken, but because these are the problems of our time. > > The positive side of that is, maybe, despite these being hard problems > that nobody has yet been able to solve, hackerspaces can figure this > out. And then we'd win Civilization! > > --Naomi > > > > On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 7:18 PM, rachel lyra hospodar > <rachelyra(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Feel free to follow through on the ideas you have posted here and report >> back to the group. >> >> If you believe that people acting on their own agency haven't gone far >> enough it would be more productive (and considerate of mitigating factors, >> such as the social shitstorms heaped on women who pursue harassment >> remediation within the tech community) to go for what you see as the next >> step, rather than criticizing the tactics chosen. >> >> I disagree with some of what you have stated (re permanent demonization of >> bad actors) but you are welcome to that opinion. >> >> R.

12 years, 10 months

on building the world, video

by Lit JC

this one is offered for your viewing pleasure: F2C2012: Eben Moglen keynote - "Innovation under Austerity" www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2VHf5vpBy8

12 years, 10 months

wiki fixed, reset your passwords

by William Budington

The wiki has been fixed, there was a problem with the wordpress common login with mediawiki plugin. This means, unfortunately, there is no unified login. So reset your wiki passwords https://sudoroom.org/wiki/page/Special:PasswordReset and you'll get a new temporary pw emailed to you. It is a long and arduous process, but the spirit of righteous revolutionary sudo solidarity, nay, Sudodarity, calls on us to bear it together. The spirit of Sudodarity will ring from our glorious Kopimistic towers and halls! Sudodarity Forever! Bill

12 years, 10 months

Fwd: [Noisebridge-discuss] Consensus on Barring Shawn Landden from the Noisebridge space and community (Was Re: On Asking People To Leave (Was Re: Shawn L. ))

by rachel lyra hospodar

In case folks are curious about what is going on at NB regarding this individual who repeatedly stalked people to their homes. Whatever your take on safe spaces and openness, this discussion may help to inform your conception of potential dangers to different members of the community. I hope we all work to be open to the experiences, and needs, of others. R. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Snail" <snailtsunami(a)gmail.com> Date: Mar 21, 2013 12:18 PM Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] Consensus on Barring Shawn Landden from the Noisebridge space and community (Was Re: On Asking People To Leave (Was Re: Shawn L. )) To: "Noisebridge-discuss" <Noisebridge-discuss(a)lists.noisebridge.net> Last night, we reached consensus on the decision to ban Shawn from Noisebridge and the community, which in full wording goes, "Shawn Landden is barred from Noisebridge. He is prohibited from entering the space or participating in the community." The statement is intentionally worded to so it can be interpreted to encompass DIGITAL as well as PHYSICAL space. You can see the meeting notes at https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2013_03_19 I am relieved to see the community band together on this decision, without hesitation, and hope that it encourages people hurt by this person to return and continue to be a part of our community. :) Because we do care. And I always look forward to discussions on what we can do to do better next time, because it will happen again, at Noisebridge, at every hackerspace, and it will happen with people we like and are very attached to and we need to be prepared, mentally, to make difficult decisions. I know members of other hackerspaces like to joke about Noisebridge drama, but this is not silly Internet drama. These are real problems that happen in every hackerspace, every place on the planet, and we're trying to solve a problem that is unsolved (how can you guarantee the safety of people in a space, when that space is in a society where violence and threats against people is accepted, even lauded, because the recipients are women?). We talk about it openly, and I'm glad talk is open. Information is our best tool here. On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Danny O'Brien <danny(a)spesh.com> wrote: > Shawn, > > We are consensing on banning you from Noisebridge next week, which is > a fairly serious step that we've only had to enact twice before. > > As in a previous case, there is a document containing ten Noisebridge > community member's statements about your behaviour among the > Noisebridge community. The document is being kept offline for privacy > reasons, but can be read by anyone who wishes to contact the keepers, > who are Alex Peake and Tom Lowenthal, both of whom are well known in > the community. > > There was swift consensus on making the banning proposal, with no objections. > > We went onto discuss how, as a community, we would pass the collated > information more widely to other hacker communities. > > I speak only for myself when I say that the best thing you might > consider doing right now is returning back to Washington where you > have an outstanding warrant for your arrest in the matter of violating > probation, felony stalking, violating a restraining order, harassment, > and stalking. > > I do speak for a large proportion of the Noisebridge community who > have made it clear that they wish to communicate as widely as possible > what we know about your current state, and to warn others who you > might harass. We are already reaching out individually to hackerspaces > in our area, and will be relaying the news to Portland. > > http://pastebin.com/EWBJ4WmN > > We also spoke about how we might better react more quickly, and listen > more swiftly to those who were concerned about your behaviour earlier. > > Shawn, I don't think I can say this any more explicitly than this in > public: we at Noisebridge are extremely concerned by your behavior, > and worried for your mental health. Please return home and seek care. > You have been banned from several houses in our city, you are about to > be banned from Noisebridge, and we are about to make even more public > our concerns. You have been told all of these things repeatedly by > individuals, groups of housemates, and law enforcement, and have made > no change in your behaviour. Please change it now. > > d. > > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 12:20 AM, Shawn <shawnlandden(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> To be terse here, I am currently not in San Francisco, but in Portland. >> Consequentially, I can neither be at Noisebridge while unwanted, (by some) >> nor attend meetings. >> --- >> Shawn Landden >> +1 360 389 3001 (SMS preferred) -- ............. _@y _______________________________________________ Noisebridge-discuss mailing list Noisebridge-discuss(a)lists.noisebridge.net https://www.noisebridge.net/mailman/listinfo/noisebridge-discuss

12 years, 10 months

noob question > new person wants to hack on a saturday. or monday afternoon. how do we do it?

by Romy Ilano

the wiki is down so this is an ultra simple question new person wantsto hack on a saturday or sunday afternoon how does a noob do it? i know there is some code thing... i always prefer to go there when someone else is there. it's irc right?

12 years, 10 months

My "Today I Learned" this Sat

by Mitch Altman

Hi, I wanted to start publicizing my workshop this Saturday for Today I Learned. But it looks like the wiki for Today I Learned is broken. Is it still OK to do the workshop on Saturday afternoon? My idea is to teach anyone and everyone to solder using lots of fun and intriguing kits for total beginners to complete successfully (and cool enough for experts to enjoy, too). TV-B-Gone kits, Brain Machine kits, blinky-light kits, and lots, lots more. Anyone can learn this stuff! All skill levels, all ages -- all welcome! More info:https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Circuit_Hacking_Mondays Any way to get the workshop on the Sudo Room main calendar? It would be nice to use this to attract some new folks to Sudo Room. Thanks,Mitch.

12 years, 10 months

on building the world you want to live in

by Lit JC

for your reading pleasure: http://www.windley.com/archives/2013/03/build_the_world_you_want_to_live_in… Cisco has made the assertion that there will be 50 billion devices on the Internet by 2020. That number might be high or low as it related to “devices” but I think it seriously underestimates the number of connected things that we’ll need to eventually contend with—by several orders of magnitude. The real number is likely in the trillions. The driver, of course, is Moore’s law. John Clippinger reports that an Android phone can be had for $30 in some places. That same connected, computational, sensor platform will cost $3.00 and then $0.30 and then $0.03. When a wireless sensor platform costs $0.03 where will it be? Everywhere. Everything, even disposable things like razors or pens, will be gathering data…about you. We probably don’t really have a choice about whether a $0.03 wireless sensor platform will exist. Technology marches on. But we do have a choice about how it will be employed. If we follow the path we’re on now, all those devices will be controlled by some company somewhere that is providing the service behind them. [snip]

12 years, 10 months

kopimism tweet =D

by Romy Ilano

https://twitter.com/tommorris/status/315437987620065280 ** ** Follow [image: Tom Morris]*Tom Morris*@*tommorris* <https://twitter.com/tommorris> If only Steven Simpson's killer or the Steubenville rapists had downloaded some PDFs from JSTOR, that'd be worth a lengthy jail sentence.

12 years, 10 months

TONIGHT: Hack The Gallery Inauguration and Launch Event!

by Marina Kukso

hi everyone, tonight is the inauguration and launch event of hack the gallery, a new creative collaborative space in north berkeley. there will be a short panel of speakers (including mitch altman and a number of sudoers and sudofriends), a live piano performance, and socializing in the space (which used to be a theater!) PLUS ray will be catering with vegan ice cream! Where: 1861 Solano Avenue A, Berkeley, California When: 7-9PM (doors open at 6PM) Why: because we support more hacker and creativespaces in the bay area and beyond! :) More info (including the list of speakers): http://hackthegallery.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/HacktheGalleryInaugura… RSVP here: http://www.facebook.com/events/162804420543492/ - marina ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Patrick Schmidt <psbschmidt(a)googlemail.com> Date: Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 3:56 AM Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Hack The Gallery To: Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> Cc: ":::Marty:::" <mrwood(a)gmail.com>, sudo-discuss < sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org> Hi guys, (all sexes) I just came back from the noisebridge to go over some details with Mitch, who checked out my space in berkeley last week. i wanted to announce it Wednesday at the Meeting but as you are talking about Friday 22nd I have to do it now: So I am running this community Art Gallery called the "Open Fine Art Gallery" in the storage room of the vacant Oaks Theatre in north Berkeley, 2 miles north of downtown. As an art gallery its fun to bring people together, lots of new artists that never showed before, but nothing sells and financially it really sucks to be honest, all savings almost gone. We have been transitioning to a community center, every open day (wed-sat) there is a free and donation based class... On Friday March 22 we have a Fundraiser and Kick-Off coming up and we are going to declare the Space a quantum community space, which means a superposition of - hackerspace -makerspace -tinkerspace -co-creator space - coworking space -developer space - you name it whatever space - avocado institute - nyan cat university and whatever the people who use it as a creative community space want to call it (declare it sudo!?) I have been asking some folks that opened community spaces to give talks as well and want to announce that anybody who wants to give a talk on - opening a community space - why a community space is awesome please let me know for the awesome people in our community who have awesome stuff to share about this and might wanna do so. With or without Powerpoint, well planned or spontaneouly. The place has a huge potential (45 feet high walls, vacant theatre next door) So I would like to invite you all to the Kick-Off Event, and also to be part of transition, please let me know if you wanna get involved. best , Patrick 2013/2/26, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com>: > For anyone who watched TPB_AFK last week. If you are interested, you can > throw some money at the creators of the film here > http://watch.tpbafk.tv/or at least sign up for the email list. > > --Andrew > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:39 PM, :::Marty::: <mrwood(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I can bring speakers for Friday! >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Andrew <andrew(a)roshambomedia.com> wrote: >> >>> +1 for Friday evening. Anyone have speakers they could loan? We have an >>> awesome projector, but dinky sound. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Jenny Ryan >>> <tunabananas(a)gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> The wikitown meetings are on hold unless folks decide to meet without >>>> Evan and I, as we're both maxed out on bandwidth atm :/ >>>> >>>> This evening I am attending an OpenOakland project meetup at City Hall. >>>> I would *love love love* to watch the film on Friday evening; the only >>>> scheduled activity for which being Hacker Happy Hour with our very >>>> first >>>> homebrewed subiir! :D >>>> >>>> Jenny >>>> http://jennyryan.net >>>> http://thepyre.org >>>> http://thevirtualcampfire.org >>>> http://technomadic.tumblr.com >>>> >>>> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` >>>> "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories." >>>> -Laurie Anderson >>>> >>>> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining >>>> it." >>>> -Hannah Arendt >>>> >>>> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create." >>>> -Stéphane Mallarmé >>>> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~` >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:01 PM, rusty lindgren >>>> <rustylindgren(a)gmail.com >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Marty, >>>>> >>>>> There is only one thing happening until 8:30 tonight . I'm sure the >>>>> maker-village group wouldn't mind moving to one room or the >>>>> other(whichever >>>>> is convenient), while we watched the movie. We could also do it after >>>>> 8:30pm. >>>>> >>>>> I really want to see it, but if Friday works better, I suppose that's >>>>> fine too. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Rusty >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Morten H. D. Fuglsang < >>>>> vallebo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hai -- Friday works for me. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:05 AM, :::Marty::: >>>>>> <mrwood(a)gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Sudoers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A couple of things. I didn't get much of a response for screening >>>>>>> *The >>>>>>> Pirate Bay film* and as Jenny pointed out Tuesdays are super busy. >>>>>>> How does this *Friday 2/22 *work for people? There are no conflicts >>>>>>> i can see on either the Sudo calendar or the Public school. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also i wanted to know that i've acquired a *first aid kit for >>>>>>> Sudoroom* so we can take it off the wish list. Ill bring it in later >>>>>>> in the week. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am also looking for folks interested in *developing The Public >>>>>>> School *website. There are a lot of improvements to be made and >>>>>>> there is a test server already running. The site runs on Drupal. So >>>>>>> if any >>>>>>> dev types have some extra time or interest i can get you access or we >>>>>>> could >>>>>>> do a hackathon to shore up the site. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> Marty >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> www.resonantcity.net >>>>>>> twitter: @resonantcity <https://twitter.com/#!/resonantcity> , >>>>>>> @uselessunless <https://twitter.com/#!/uselessunless> [ personal ] >>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/ResonantCity< https://www.facebook.com/ResonantCity> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Rusty Lindgren >>>>> ** >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ------- >>> Andrew Lowe >>> Cell: 831-332-2507 >>> http://roshambomedia.com >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> www.resonantcity.net >> twitter: @resonantcity <https://twitter.com/#!/resonantcity> , >> @uselessunless <https://twitter.com/#!/uselessunless> [ personal ] >> http://www.facebook.com/ResonantCity< https://www.facebook.com/ResonantCity> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >> >> > > > -- > ------- > Andrew Lowe > Cell: 831-332-2507 > http://roshambomedia.com > _______________________________________________ sudo-discuss mailing list sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss

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