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by Jake

Just to bump this issue, the delegates are still talking about it and the one group "CLP" are still trying to block TANC from moving in. The delegates are emailing about this to try to quell the confusion around this issue, so now is the time for Sudoroom (and all omni collectives) to meet and discuss it in order to make sure that their delegate (me and/or Andy) can go forward into the next delegates meeting (which might be sooner than normal) to discuss it. Can people make it to an in-person meeting on Wednesday night at sudoroom? As always there is the video link portal at this link, which connects you to the room over video and audio (try it anytime) https://meet.waag.org/turtlesturtlesturtles Previous meeting notes: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meetings#Meeting_Notes_Archive Wednesday night meeting at 8? Or thoughts about the situation described below. To be clear, I think the question is going to come up of voting to remove CLP from Omni Commons, so we need to make it clear for our delegates what our position is on that. -jake On Thu, 14 Sep 2023, Jake Watters via sudo-discuss wrote: > Just to clarify, TANC has already been voted in according to our bylaws: > https://omnicommons.org/pipermail/consensus/2023-September/004001.html > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2023, 13:07 Andrew R Gross via sudo-discuss < > sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote: > >> Just to clarify, TANC is Tenants and Neighborhoods Councils. They're a >> local tenants union who helps organize renters to form unions in and >> between apartment buildings to challenge rent increase or otherwise push >> back against property managers. I reached out to them last year when I was >> looking for advice in dealing with bad behavior by my property manager, and >> attended one of their meetings. I support their work. https://baytanc.com >> >> CLP is Community Liberation Programs: >> https://www.communityliberationprograms.org/. I don't know much about >> them, honestly. They organize programs around diverse socialist goals, >> which sounds like something I'd completely support, but I think it's >> misguided to block TANC from joining Omni, particularly on the charge that >> they're not outspoken enough about Palestine. I don't think they've >> provided any evidence for the claim, and it's also creating a lot of >> conflict within Omni that seems super unproductive. >> >> Especially because *Omni is facing foreclosure at the end of the year* if >> we don't find a new lender. We need a strong financial base of support from >> member collectives in order to convince a credit union to loan us money to >> avoid losing the building. I don't want to pick a fight with CLP, but the >> consensus process is meant to encourage discussion and persuasion, and >> blocks are supposed to be used for matters of urgent necessity. >> Filibustering a new collective's joining or using a block because you >> haven't been successful persuading others is not a good-faith use of the >> consensus process, imo. Which is why I think Sudo should endorse a proposal >> to use the consensus-minus-one clause to proceed with inducting TANC into >> Omni. >> >> Does anyone disagree? If so, can you please offer a counter proposal to >> resolve this dispute. If there is no block on the motion, then I believe >> whoever represents Sudo at the next Thursday Omni meeting will register our >> collective as being in support of the motion to disregard CLP's block on >> TANC joining. >> >> -Andy >> >> >> <https://baytanc.com/> >> *Andrew R Gross, (he/him)* >> 412.657.5332 - shrad.org <http://www.shrad.org> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 8:44 PM Karissa McKelvey <krmckelv(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> There are a lot of acronyms here I have no idea what's going on. but this >>> is exactly why consensus-1 exists >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 2:56 PM Z Silver Zahn via sudo-discuss < >>> sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote: >>> >>>> I really thinks it’s inappropriate to ask an organization that Omni >>>> dosent have that much of a relationship to spend their energy looking into >>>> who TANC is , what omni decision making model is etc. I hope CLP steps up >>>> to these demands they imposed on PYM . >>>> On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 2:29 PM Andrew R Gross via sudo-discuss < >>>> sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I strongly, strongly endorse Yar’s proposal, and while I’m trying to >>>>> take a break from Omni politics, I would be willing to make an exception if >>>>> there’s anything I can do to help break this impasse. >>>>> >>>>> I am neutral on ejecting or suspending CLP. I’m happy to try and >>>>> resolve things with them if they’re willing, but I wouldn’t mind seeing >>>>> them go if they continue to demonstrate a lack of consideration for the >>>>> consensus process. Tanc’s approval has taken far too long, imo. >>>>> >>>>> It’s frankly shitty to spend so much time denigrating and occupying the >>>>> limited resources of a group that helps renters stay in their homes. >>>>> >>>>> Andy >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 2:20 PM Muirén Ní Sídach via sudo-discuss < >>>>> sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I get the picture. >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list -- sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to sudo-discuss-leave(a)sudoroom.org >>>>>> More options at >>>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/postorius/lists/sudo-discuss.sudoroom.org/ >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list -- sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to sudo-discuss-leave(a)sudoroom.org >>>>> More options at >>>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/postorius/lists/sudo-discuss.sudoroom.org/ >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sudo-discuss mailing list -- sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to sudo-discuss-leave(a)sudoroom.org >>>> More options at >>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/postorius/lists/sudo-discuss.sudoroom.org/ >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list -- sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to sudo-discuss-leave(a)sudoroom.org >> More options at >> https://sudoroom.org/lists/postorius/lists/sudo-discuss.sudoroom.org/ >> >

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Hackathon | TED AI

by Romy Ilano

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A kind word for Yom Kippur

by Andrew R Gross

Today is Yom Kippur, when we're encouraged to take a moment to apologize to the people around us for anything unkind we've said or done. With all the drama going around, I just wanted to do that: if I've done or said anything that has gotten under the skin of anyone reading this, feel free to let me know and I'll give you a sincere apology. Our words have a lot of power, and I try to use mine for good. Let me know when I fall short, and I'll keep trying. Hugs and high fives, Andy *Andrew R Gross, (he/him)* 412.657.5332 - shrad.org <http://www.shrad.org>

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Reminder: Pledge [Pledge No.] from Omni Commons

by Omni Commons

Dear Sudo Room, Just a reminder that we have not received a payment for this invoice yet. Let us know if you have questions. Thanks for your business! Omni Commons ---------------------------------- Invoice --------------------------------- 4799 Shattuck Ave Oakland, CA 94609 US +1 5105456582 https://omnicommons.org Invoice #: 3009 Date: 09/01/2023 Due Date: 09/25/2023 Terms: Net 25 Amount Due: $2,000.00 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill To: Sudo Room 4799 Shattuck Ave Oakland, CA 94607 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ****************************** Account Summary ***************************** 08/01/2023 Balance Forward $1,850.00 Other payments and credits after 08/01/2023 -1,850.00 New charges (details below) 2,000.00 Total Amount Due (activity through 09/01/202 2,000.00 **************************************************************************** Date Activity Qty Rate Amount 09/01/2023 Furnishing Fa 1 2,000.00 2,000.00T ____________________________________________________________________________ SubTotal: $2,000.00 Tax: $0.00 -------------------------------------- Total Of New Charges: $2,000.00 Total Amount Due: $2,000.00 Greetings Sudo Room! This is your monthly donation invoice. Thank you for stewarding the commons! Love and solidarity, Omni Commons Finance Working Group

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Scheduling BOGSS Congress (fwd)

by Jake

Hello sudoroom, BOGSS is an Omni Commons member committee, aka the BIPOC Oppressed Genders Safe Space committee. As the email below states, the committee needs members who are people of color and/or people who face gendered oppression. Information on how to participate is listed in the forwarded message below. BOGSS is described here: https://omnicommons.org/wiki/BOGSS ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2023 21:22:32 -0700 From: BOGGS Committee <boggscommittee(a)gmail.com> To: consensus(a)lists.omnicommons.org Subject: [sudo-info] Scheduling BOGSS Congress Good evening, We are scheduling the next Omni BIPOC Oppressed Genders Safe Space (BOGSS) Congress to elect the next BOGSS Committee for the next six months. To be in the congress, you must be a person of color and/or someone who faces gendered oppression. If you are interested, or you have any interested members in your collective, please reply directly to this email directly with your name, pronouns, member collective or working group affiliation, and the best form of contact (phone number, email). Thank you, Danielle BOGSS Delegate

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Reminder: Pledge [Pledge No.] from Omni Commons

by Omni Commons

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Photos from last night

by Peter Mui

Photos from last night’s 2023-12-19 Sudoroom Tech Tuneup Tuesday Hardware and SoftWEAR Hacking Night https://photos.app.goo.gl/hHifBwLHF6w3hBv76 Thanks to everyone who participated, -Peter

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Craftsmanship.net at sudoroom for Hardware and SoftWEAR night

by Peter Mui

Jeff Greenwald, Contributing Editor for Craftsmanship.net says he's coming to sudoroom tomorrow night, they're going to have an entire issue dedicated to repair. Can the first person there put the Fixit Clinic sandwich sign outside? If Jeff gets there before me, can you please host and help him? He says he's bringing a macbook with a loose keycap. Many thanks, -Peter

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Convert Your Chromebook to Linux?

by Peter Mui

Hi: Do you have (or do you know someone who has) an old Chromebook? We can help install Linux on it; then you can have a real fully-functioning general purpose laptop instead of one running crippled ChromeOS. We'll be doing this to a bunch of old Chromebooks tomorrow (Sunday 9/16) 11-2 at Sudoroom, so come on by and bring yours. (See background here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JSbGXhJFJeABWVOn1wO4M6bPT-gPBLV4oQ85xMy…) Hope to see you tomorrow, -Peter

2 years, 11 months

chromebook flashing jig

by Jake

Hi Thomas I saw you mentioned in an email to Pi.BerkeleyLUG about the chromebooks talking about a "jig" to program them did you know that Paige laser cut a piece of acrylic to go with some pogo pins, and a map of the EEPROM chip's connections on the bottom of the motherboard? the idea is that with this hardware, we should be able to reflash the chips without taking the motherboard out - just take off the bottom cover, remove the write-protect screw, and press this jig onto the board and flash it It's in my locker but we can look at it together and try to get it working, and then just power through the whole stack of chromebooks with it here is that email thread: https://sudoroom.org/lists/hyperkitty/list/sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org/thread… and here is the map of places to connect on the board: https://spaz.org/~jake/pix/2023-05/20230521_185814.jpg -jake

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