1 Mar
2022
1 Mar
'22
5:19 p.m.
There's a Bicyclist and Pedestrian Advisory Commission
https://www.oaklandca.gov/boards-commissions/bicyclist-and-pedestrian-advis…
--mark B.
On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 5:10 PM Jake via sudo-discuss <
sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
access,
> why aim
for that solution? it's a big step in the right direction, and
> having a bus go through gives the same access to the place to people
who are
> too old or immobile to get there by biking or
whatever means us young
> healthy folks have.
>
> as for ambulances and fire trucks driving on non-roads...there will
> invariably be obstacles on those paths making passage impossible, that's
> something that we don't have to think about since we don't do those
kinds of
emergency
jobs.
You realize I come from a country that's sorta known for being good at
bike/pedestrian friendly infrastructure design? and I'm telling you I've
never seen this sort of thing. There are other ways of dealing with such as having the bus intersect the pedestrian
only area every couple of
blocks. The bus doesn't stop on every block normally anyway. Obviously
impeding emergency traffic by putting obstacles in their paths should
still
be illegal. I don't see why that would be
different for a pedestrian
area.
If you ever visit my home town we can walk down
the main street which is
implemented exactly like this. I'm also not sure why bikes should be
allowed. Again they can just go one street over.
Talk to Sierk if you want more info on how to do good pedestrian-friendly
street design. He has actually studied this stuff in depth. He'll also
tell
you all about why the telegraph bike lane
situation near Omni is flawed.
you guys should definitely join the committees where these designs are
debated.
I'm guessing that the city has some meeting where the only participants are
contractors who have drawn up something they'd like to build, and that
none of
them have been to europe.
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