6 Dec
2014
6 Dec
'14
5:47 p.m.
I often find that the tall skinny ones are just too dammed skinny. Sudo
now just has these trunks all stacked on top of one another that can be
opened and closed and a padlock can be added. It's doesn't have to be
iso9000 compliant "lockers" to be considered a locker.
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
What size lockers would be most useful for people?
I've mostly been
looking out for the 1-cubic-foot versions. The taller lockers tend to be
designed to hang up clothing, which isn't quite as useful for us. But they
could be subdivided with internal shelving.
Here's one CL posting for a 2-tier set of eight 3ft high lockers for $120:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/fuo/4792420191.html
I could easily imagine a few walls in the basement (or for sudo and CCL,
along the long graffitti wall) covered with lockers, with a clear price
list for different sizes and shapes. Maybe charge $5/mo for the cubic foot
version, $12/mo for the 3ft ones, and $20 for a full height one? We'd need
to set up some payment system to manage them though - including cutting off
unauthorized locks, emptying abandoned lockers, and everything else that
comes with that...
Suitable lockers on CraigsList can be found at very affordable rates (with
some patience anyway), but they do require a truck to move...
Patrik
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Cere Misc <cere.misc(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I am not so much about video based security as I
am wanting to see more
"lockup" space for members. Sudo has added these nice larger (some of them
lockable if members bring a lock) containers in their space. I like this.
They are larger and able to store a more reasonable sized space for
"hackers". I know this is one a lot of other peoples radar as well, I just
wanted to say that I care about it and have my eye out for more of these
kinds of stackable secure storage solutions.
-Cere
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
*(psst - don't tell yar, but I think you hit
Reply All ;-)*
As far as social pressure goes - I want to make it clear that I am not
specifically advocating in favor of video surveillance. I just wanted to
better understand what the landscape of attitudes around this topic at the
Omni looks like, since I remembered this topic coming up at Sudo in the
past as well.
Yar - is your objection specifically with video? Or would you have
similar objections if we had a motion sensor or RFID system that allowed
tracking people throughout the different rooms in the building? In this
case, there'd be no images that could be used for surveillance outside the
Omni, and it would be impossible to tell what people are doing in the
different rooms, but there would still be information on attendance and
association patterns that could theoretically be abused by a 3rd party.
Patrik
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Stan Osborne <stan(a)ana.com> wrote:
Patrick,
This messages is between you and myself, for the moment.
I say we have all the resources at OMNI for building industrial security
capable of earning Yar's trust.
The following is cut from a friend and collaborator's CV.
5.10 Seguridad de la Información:
RENIEC – Seminario Internacional; Seguridad de la Información
Expositor : Msc. Stan Osborne
Swissotel, San Isidro, Lima, PERU
Enero 24, 25 y 26 2001
I try hard to avoid bragging, until it might be useful. RENIEC is an
acronym for a government agency in Peru. Any adult Peruvian with a
National ID card knows what it stands for.
Let's start collecting requirements for OMNI internal secure storage,
both physical and digital.
By all means, it is to early to trust claims contained here-i.
Today I'm short on time, but will have more time Sunday evening and hope
to stop by then.
Stan
On Sat, December 6, 2014 2:57 pm, yar wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd(a)gmail.com
>
> wrote:
>> Back at the old sudo location, there were a few muggings right
outside
>> the
>> door. I remember there was some discussion at that time about under
what
>> conditions a security camera might be acceptable. E.g. using strong
>> encryption, auto-erasing after some expiration date, and requiring
>> multiple
>> keys to unlock the recordings.
>>
>> Would those kinds of safeguards satisfy your concerns around video
>> surveillance?
>
> It would take some work to get me to trust a scheme like this... and
> it would create social pressure to accept whatever results...
>
>> Did Sudo ever wind up installing a security camera at the
>> front door in the old location?
>
> The landlord had a video surveillance system, so it was moot.
>
>> PS: are there any particular security needs that La Commune needs
help
>> with
>> ASAP?
>
> Yes, securing their books after-hours.
>
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