4 May
2013
4 May
'13
8 p.m.
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I think I should clarify, there is nothing wrong with using porn as a
tool to get off. Of course there are issues when porn becomes the
*only* way someone can get off, but that's another story.
On 5/4/13 7:57 PM, aestetix wrote:
[Some] people want porn for that reason :)
I personally think porn is beautiful and ought to be considered
art, not simply a tool to help someone get off. I think the kind of
porn changes peoples relationships with it... for example, video
porn vs photographs vs literotica. There's also something to be
said for roleplaying.
The shit that comes out of LA and endorses non-consentual
objectification, I generally consider trash, not porn. :)
On 5/4/13 7:53 PM, Andrew wrote:
People want porn for somthing easy to focus on
while
masturbating. Masturbating being a natural part of life. I also
dont think that all people who can have sex with others, but
don't , are doing so because they don't have the "skills"
On May 4, 2013 7:20 PM, "Sonja Trauss"
<sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com
<mailto:sonja.trauss@gmail.com>> wrote:
Or less representation of sex altogether. What
does anyone need
porn for?
On May 4, 2013 7:10 PM, "Andrew"
<andrew(a)vagabondballroom.com
<mailto:andrew@vagabondballroom.com>> wrote:
When i ran an erotic event in oakland our crew
made it a point
to balence genders as much as possible. We had male and female
co-hosts and male and female strippers.
Also. Somthing to keep in mind is that there are
more than two
genders. In my mind objectification is not the issue.
Representation is. Porn is mostly filmed from a hetero-cis-male
perspective and because of that, taken as a whole, is
exploitive. There is porn that fights this perspective and
representation of sex and there needs to be more.
On May 4, 2013 6:55 PM, "Sonja Trauss"
<sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com
<mailto:sonja.trauss@gmail.com>> wrote:
Can I get a link for this gonorreah story?
On May 4, 2013 6:42 PM, "GtwoG
PublicOhOne"
<g2g-public01(a)att.net <mailto:g2g-public01@att.net>> wrote:
Romy & Yo's-
Re. "womens' bodies with their faces cut
off."
Wow. Thanks for pointing that out. I never
noticed that before
(OTOH attempts to do "sexy" in advertising generally don't get
my attention), but I vaguely recall seeing ads like that
somewhere.
I agree, a torso minus a face is depersonalizing
and
objectifying as hell, unless there's a very good reason for
taking a photo that way (e.g. medical contexts). Being looked at
"that way" produces the creepy feeling that the looker's
intentions are non-consensual.
The only borderline-legit reason I could see for
doing it in
clothing ads is, "we want you to imagine yourself wearing this,
and we don't want to risk putting you off by showing a face
that's substantially different to yours, so imagine your face on
this person's body." But it would be foolish to think that's
what's intended every time that photographic method is used.
This brings up the question of what people find
sexy in
photography. For me (gay male), a photo minus a face is a
non-starter: there's no cue for communication with the person.
Nudes in general don't do it either: all the usual contextual
cues as to someone's personality are missing, so why would I even
begin to imagine being in an intimate context with someone I
don't really know? I've always felt that way but now we have the
HIV pandemic to reinforce it: in general it's not a good idea to
get intimate with someone you don't know very well, because the
outcome could be a life-threatening illness.
For that matter, now that
massively-drug-resistant gonorrhea is
loose in the USA, which is hella' easier to catch than HIV and
can kill you in a matter of days through a raging bacterial
infection, it's probably a darn good idea for everyone to "get
smart & play safe" ALL the time, zero exceptions, even more so
than with HIV. In which case photography that portrays an
objectified sexuality without communications isn't just gross and
exploitative, it's a public health hazard that reinforces
attitudes that put people at risk for their lives.
-G.
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On 13-05-04-Sat 10:34 AM, Romy Snowyla wrote:
It's interesting to me how porn a Nd erotica
always advertise
with women's bodies with
their faces cut off
American apparel digs this etc Lots of art theory
discusses
this
I would love for any Sudo room event to break the mold
and show men's bodies
in any erotic theme as well ... Also would
love to see the male body as the focus of any erotic film or
dance to balance out the Imbalance and unnatural obsession with t
and a we see on the porn industry
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