4 Sep
2022
4 Sep
'22
6:50 p.m.
The hook on the door is still there, but someone again unhooked it and locked
the door.
There is still no sign on the door with information on what to do if the door
is locked, but again today I was told that a sudoroom member arrived and was
unable to get through the door and didn't know what to do.
I took some 12ga copper wire and fastened the hook to the door with it to
discourage whoever is unhooking and locking the door. If they take the wire
off, i'll remove the latch to prevent people from getting locked out.
-jake
On Wed, 31 Aug 2022, Patrik D'haeseleer wrote:
Hi Jake,
Is there no longer a hook on the door to prop it open when it doesn't need
to be locked? I know Michael installed one a while back, but I didn't see
it last time. If so, that would be at least part of the problem...
Also - do we have any volunteers who would want to be on a door access
phone tree? I think taking the door latch back off the door would be a huge
step back.
Patrik
On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 6:06 PM Jake <jake(a)spaz.org> wrote:
Hi all,
Today I got a call asking how to get into sudo/CCL by a sudoroom member.
As I said in previous messages, I don't think it's appropriate to
shut/lock the
door without first putting up a sign explaining who to contact in case of
being
unable to get through the door.
I don't think it's a huge big deal for someone to make the sign and put it
up
there, so I don't understand why it hasn't happened yet, but people keep
locking the door. Who knows how many people wanted to access the space and
couldn't figure out how to get in? Hopefully not too many.
If nobody cares about access through this door enough to figure out a phone
tree and a sign, at the very least, then I will take the latch back off the
door so that we don't have any more problems with people being locked out.
-jake
On Wed, 3 Aug 2022, Patrik D'haeseleer wrote:
I am in favor of starting to use the door lock to
CCL/Sudo on a more
regular basis, now that it is operational. But I agree with Jake that we
need to have some agreements between CCL and Sudo members on when and how
to use it.
If anyone would like to discuss, feel free to join us later today at the
CCL Working Meeting - every Wednesday 7pm:
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/820128495?pwd=dE1kMHcxQ2o4UlI5dWdudk9YV1Q4Zz09
Patrik
On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 1:06 AM Jake via sudo-discuss <
sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
> It is not appropriate for a single person to unilaterally make and
> implement
> policy for a lot of people in the form of an announcement like this.
>
> I understand that you're concerned about security, and if you want to
have
> a
> discussion about progress on locking the door, it would make sense to
> engage in
> the discussion I started in the access group, where I described the
secret
> of
> the door-opening button.
>
> I mentioned that before we start locking the door, we need to at least
> make a
> sign on the door for people who find themselves needing to be on the
other
> side
> of it, and who haven't seen the email you sent about it. I mentioned
that
> someone set fire to the building because the
door closed while their
> property
> was on the other side of it (not the only reason we need a sign, but
not a
> lesson to ignore).
>
> We need volunteers to discuss a phone tree (the sign must say phone
> numbers)
> and make the sign, to install the sign, as well as work on finishing the
> RFID
> access card project.
>
> Please don't just jump the gun and send out policy announcements like
this
> without engaging in ongoing planning and
discussion.
>
> Also if an announcement is sent out once the sign is ready, it should
say
> "the door can be propped open using the
metal hook and loop just below
eye
level,
don't put items in the walkway that block the path"
and step 3 should say PULL the door open, not "push open the door".
-jake
On Tue, 2 Aug 2022, Edwinsaurus via sudo-discuss wrote:
> We have been waiting for a sensing system to be programmed for security
in
> CCL and sudo room.
> Meanwhile, there have been incidents in and around the Omni that raise
> security concerns.
> Starting in August we will start closing and locking the entry door.
> If someone is having a workshop and wants to keep an open door for the
> duration, that's cool, prop it open.
> When you exit the area please close the door and check that it locked.
> Here's how to unlock the door:
> 1. check to see no one is watching you
> 2. press the lever/switch on the box to the left of the door
> (see photo) while saying "open sesame"
> 3. push open the door and enter.
> [image: opensezme.jpg]
> to lock the door, just close it.
> The door also opens from inside.
> This message is coming to you via Sudo-discuss or CCL members at google
> groups. Please pass it on to anyone who needs to know the procedure.
>
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