21 Apr
2022
21 Apr
'22
12:32 p.m.
Ok weird. I dunno what changed, but now I see it. Thanks!
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 9:22 PM Eric O'Connor <eric(a)oco.nnor.org> wrote:
Hey Cere,
I wonder if there is a caching issue? I see your changes for health and
diversity when I refresh the page, and I also see your edits in the
history.
Were there other changes that didn’t get saved?
Eric
On Apr 21, 2022, at 12:00, Cere Misc <cere.misc(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hrm. I don't see where my changes got added into the purpose section when
I search for keywords like health and diverse. Did you not save changes or
something?
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 8:16 PM Eric O'Connor <eric(a)oco.nnor.org> wrote:
Hey Cere,
Awesome! — and yes, I agree that the quotes were just for temporary
brainstorming. Thanks for removing them.
I feel that we should retain the part about "foster and expand innovation
and creativity” because it gives some specificity as to _*how_* we
envision the improvement of our community to be actualized.
That is basically an attempt to summarize this section:
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Bylaws#Article_3._Purpose
I added that back, but kept the rest of your changes. What do you think?
Eric
On Apr 21, 2022, at 09:20, Cere Misc <cere.misc(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Eric,
Thanks for those edits. After suggesting curiosity, I failed to include
it in my own draft (lol) as it didn't quite make as much sense as I thought
given the rest of what I wrote down. It's a big change from what you
proposed, so I hope at least some of it speaks to you.
I like the idea of having the quotes to brainstorm new writing but I
worried about keeping them around as appeals to authority which might get
us off on the wrong foot from an anarchist or cultural diversity
perspective so I removed it from my draft.
https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=About&type=revision&…
In the end, there is less written but I was sort of aiming for brevity
anyway.
Hope it's helpful.
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 4:58 PM Eric O'Connor <eric(a)oco.nnor.org> wrote:
That makes sense.
I just made an edit to revise to emphasize curiosity more — and included
some quotes from famous people talking about it. Maybe we can rephrase
those statements and make that our own?
Let me know what you think
https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=About&type=revision&…
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/About
Eric
On Apr 21, 2022, at 07:15, Cere Misc <cere.misc(a)gmail.com> wrote:
The verb "curiosity" seems really central to me in terms of vision and
values (but esp vision). But I am struggling to propose exactly how that
could be worded. If others feel similarly, maybe something on that could
be added.
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 9:02 AM Eric O'Connor via sudo-discuss <
sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org> wrote:
I made this page to try to address
"statement of intent":
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/About
It is not complete, and still includes noisebridge links because most
of this is copy-paste.
Please review/change it?
Eric
On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, at 21:50, Jenny Ryan via sudo-discuss wrote:
Agreed!
On 4/17/22 06:04, Cere Misc wrote:
One way I would describe openness is: genuine (non-antagonizing)
curiosity. That is, not weaponizing curiosity as a "just asking questions"
antagonistic rhetorical strategy.
It seems easy to point to examples of "closedness" once we've
encountered instances of them. By contrast, openness is weirdly hard to
describe without referencing closedness.
(sorry. philosophy is just where my head goes these days)
1) openness to sharing knowledge [whilst avoiding obnoxious
mansplaining and acronym-everything, sharing and asking in turn, spirit of
co-learning - we all can learn from each other, of course];
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