Re: [sudo-discuss] Erotica and women's bodies

People want porn for somthing easy to focus on while masturbating. Masturbating being a natural part of life. I also dont think that all people who can have sex with others, but don't , are doing so because they don't have the "skills" On May 4, 2013 7:20 PM, "Sonja Trauss" <sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Or less representation of sex altogether. What does anyone need porn for? > On May 4, 2013 7:10 PM, "Andrew" <andrew(a)vagabondballroom.com> wrote: > >> When i ran an erotic event in oakland our crew made it a point to >> balence genders as much as possible. We had male and female co-hosts and >> male and female strippers. >> >> Also. Somthing to keep in mind is that there are more than two genders. >> In my mind objectification is not the issue. Representation is. Porn is >> mostly filmed from a hetero-cis-male perspective and because of that, taken >> as a whole, is exploitive. There is porn that fights this perspective and >> representation of sex and there needs to be more. >> On May 4, 2013 6:55 PM, "Sonja Trauss" <sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Can I get a link for this gonorreah story? >>> On May 4, 2013 6:42 PM, "GtwoG PublicOhOne" <g2g-public01(a)att.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Romy & Yo's- >>>> >>>> Re. "womens' bodies with their faces cut off." >>>> >>>> Wow. Thanks for pointing that out. I never noticed that before (OTOH >>>> attempts to do "sexy" in advertising generally don't get my attention), >>>> but I vaguely recall seeing ads like that somewhere. >>>> >>>> I agree, a torso minus a face is depersonalizing and objectifying as >>>> hell, unless there's a very good reason for taking a photo that way >>>> (e.g. medical contexts). Being looked at "that way" produces the >>>> creepy >>>> feeling that the looker's intentions are non-consensual. >>>> >>>> The only borderline-legit reason I could see for doing it in clothing >>>> ads is, "we want you to imagine yourself wearing this, and we don't >>>> want >>>> to risk putting you off by showing a face that's substantially >>>> different >>>> to yours, so imagine your face on this person's body." But it would be >>>> foolish to think that's what's intended every time that photographic >>>> method is used. >>>> >>>> This brings up the question of what people find sexy in photography. >>>> For me (gay male), a photo minus a face is a non-starter: there's no >>>> cue >>>> for communication with the person. Nudes in general don't do it >>>> either: >>>> all the usual contextual cues as to someone's personality are missing, >>>> so why would I even begin to imagine being in an intimate context with >>>> someone I don't really know? I've always felt that way but now we have >>>> the HIV pandemic to reinforce it: in general it's not a good idea to >>>> get >>>> intimate with someone you don't know very well, because the outcome >>>> could be a life-threatening illness. >>>> >>>> For that matter, now that massively-drug-resistant gonorrhea is loose >>>> in >>>> the USA, which is hella' easier to catch than HIV and can kill you in a >>>> matter of days through a raging bacterial infection, it's probably a >>>> darn good idea for everyone to "get smart & play safe" ALL the time, >>>> zero exceptions, even more so than with HIV. In which case photography >>>> that portrays an objectified sexuality without communications isn't >>>> just >>>> gross and exploitative, it's a public health hazard that reinforces >>>> attitudes that put people at risk for their lives. >>>> >>>> -G. >>>> >>>> >>>> ===== >>>> >>>> >>>> On 13-05-04-Sat 10:34 AM, Romy Snowyla wrote: >>>> > It's interesting to me how porn a >>>> > Nd erotica always advertise with women's bodies with their faces cut >>>> off >>>> > American apparel digs this etc >>>> > Lots of art theory discusses this >>>> > >>>> > I would love for any Sudo room event to break the mold and show >>>> men's bodies in any erotic theme as well ... Also would love to see the >>>> male body as the focus of any erotic film or dance to balance out the >>>> Imbalance and unnatural obsession with t and a we see on the porn industry >>>> > >>>> > Sent from my iPad >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > sudo-discuss mailing list >>>> > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>> > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>> > >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>> >>>