Re: [sudo-discuss] Erotica and women's bodies

Or less representation of sex altogether. What does anyone need porn for? On May 4, 2013 7:10 PM, "Andrew" <andrew(a)vagabondballroom.com> wrote: > When i ran an erotic event in oakland our crew made it a point to balence > genders as much as possible. We had male and female co-hosts and male and > female strippers. > > Also. Somthing to keep in mind is that there are more than two genders. > In my mind objectification is not the issue. Representation is. Porn is > mostly filmed from a hetero-cis-male perspective and because of that, taken > as a whole, is exploitive. There is porn that fights this perspective and > representation of sex and there needs to be more. > On May 4, 2013 6:55 PM, "Sonja Trauss" <sonja.trauss(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Can I get a link for this gonorreah story? >> On May 4, 2013 6:42 PM, "GtwoG PublicOhOne" <g2g-public01(a)att.net> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Romy & Yo's- >>> >>> Re. "womens' bodies with their faces cut off." >>> >>> Wow. Thanks for pointing that out. I never noticed that before (OTOH >>> attempts to do "sexy" in advertising generally don't get my attention), >>> but I vaguely recall seeing ads like that somewhere. >>> >>> I agree, a torso minus a face is depersonalizing and objectifying as >>> hell, unless there's a very good reason for taking a photo that way >>> (e.g. medical contexts). Being looked at "that way" produces the creepy >>> feeling that the looker's intentions are non-consensual. >>> >>> The only borderline-legit reason I could see for doing it in clothing >>> ads is, "we want you to imagine yourself wearing this, and we don't want >>> to risk putting you off by showing a face that's substantially different >>> to yours, so imagine your face on this person's body." But it would be >>> foolish to think that's what's intended every time that photographic >>> method is used. >>> >>> This brings up the question of what people find sexy in photography. >>> For me (gay male), a photo minus a face is a non-starter: there's no cue >>> for communication with the person. Nudes in general don't do it either: >>> all the usual contextual cues as to someone's personality are missing, >>> so why would I even begin to imagine being in an intimate context with >>> someone I don't really know? I've always felt that way but now we have >>> the HIV pandemic to reinforce it: in general it's not a good idea to get >>> intimate with someone you don't know very well, because the outcome >>> could be a life-threatening illness. >>> >>> For that matter, now that massively-drug-resistant gonorrhea is loose in >>> the USA, which is hella' easier to catch than HIV and can kill you in a >>> matter of days through a raging bacterial infection, it's probably a >>> darn good idea for everyone to "get smart & play safe" ALL the time, >>> zero exceptions, even more so than with HIV. In which case photography >>> that portrays an objectified sexuality without communications isn't just >>> gross and exploitative, it's a public health hazard that reinforces >>> attitudes that put people at risk for their lives. >>> >>> -G. >>> >>> >>> ===== >>> >>> >>> On 13-05-04-Sat 10:34 AM, Romy Snowyla wrote: >>> > It's interesting to me how porn a >>> > Nd erotica always advertise with women's bodies with their faces cut >>> off >>> > American apparel digs this etc >>> > Lots of art theory discusses this >>> > >>> > I would love for any Sudo room event to break the mold and show men's >>> bodies in any erotic theme as well ... Also would love to see the male body >>> as the focus of any erotic film or dance to balance out the Imbalance and >>> unnatural obsession with t and a we see on the porn industry >>> > >>> > Sent from my iPad >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > sudo-discuss mailing list >>> > sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>> > http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sudo-discuss mailing list >>> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sudo-discuss mailing list >> sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss >> >>