5 Mar
2013
5 Mar
'13
1:51 p.m.
Re. Rachel, "Or we could hold all of our meetings without devices, in
the fields and mountains, with birdsong our walls and the sky as our
roof."
YES. Good reminder and well-said. There are times and places where
it's liberating to not have any devices along. For example when going
for a swim.
-G.
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On 13-03-05-Tue 11:34 AM, rachel lyra hospodar wrote:
What if everyone carried a device that captured what they were saying
and replayed it, layered along with other recordings of their own voice?
Or we could hold all of our meetings without devices, in the fields
and mountains, with birdsong our walls and the sky as our roof.
On Mar 5, 2013 11:22 AM, "Matthew D. Howell" <matthewdhowell(a)gmail.com
<mailto:matthewdhowell@gmail.com>> wrote:
@Rachel The state of the technology for recognizing and separating
patterns in audio is advanced enough to overcome that sort of thing.
Every person's voice has a distinct signature that can be recognized.
I would venture a guess that some kind of encrypted digital signal
transmission would be the best way to keep any sonic communication
private in the most extreme of situations. (most interested party with
the best technology at their disposal)
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On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:16 AM, rachel lyra hospodar
<rachelyra(a)gmail.com <mailto:rachelyra@gmail.com>> wrote:
Wouldn't it need to be non-commercially
available music, so they
couldn't
just find the audio data of the track, invert its
wave, and
cancel it out of
the recording?
CACOPHONY FOR THE REVOLUTION!
mediumreality.com <http://mediumreality.com>
On Mar 5, 2013 10:23 AM, "Steve Berl" <steveberl(a)gmail.com
<mailto:steveberl@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> You could carry a boombox around playing loud music where ever
you go.
> Perhaps this would be the end of earbuds.
:-)
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Anthony Di Franco
<di.franco(a)gmail.com
<mailto:di.franco@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>>
>> People have rendered surveillance cameras useless with very
bright IR
>> LEDs in their fields of view.
>> Could something similar be done for sound recording devices?
>>
>> On Mar 5, 2013 6:17 AM, "Anon195714" <anon195714(a)sbcglobal.net
<mailto:anon195714@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Yo's-
>>>
>>> Something I forgot to add re. DARPA's desire for universal
recording of
>>> face-to-face conversations.
>>>
>>> What's the ideal device for doing all that recording?
>>>
>>> How'bout something you wear? How'bout something that
"everyone" wears?,
>>> or even a significant fraction of
"everyone"?
>>>
>>> Like maybe Google Glasses.
>>>
>>> Always on, camera and mic always "connected" to "the
cloud."
Orwell's
>>> telescreen gone mobile.
>>>
>>> Everyone who wears them will become, in effect, _unpaid
surveillance
>>> drones_ watching their family and
friends, not from up in the
sky, but
>>> from up close where every word can be
heard.
>>>
>>> Some will say "oh, there's no stopping technology." People
said that
>>> about the atomic bomb and the
hydrogen bomb. But public
outcry led
>>> first to treaties and then to
progressive degrees of nuclear
>>> disarmament. We haven't used that technology since it was
first used in
>>> WW2.
>>>
>>> We can stop pernicious tech if we choose. We can refuse, we can
>>> withdraw consent, we do not have to press the Buy button.
>>>
>>> Technology should liberate and empower people. "Conveniences
with a few
>>> strings attached" are not
liberation, they're puppet-strings.
>>>
>>> It's all about control: technology that you can control, vs.
technology
>>> that can control you.
>>>
>>> -G.
>>>
>>>
>>> =====
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13-03-05-Tue 1:50 AM, Anon195714 wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Yo's-
>>> >
>>> > This just in:
>>> >
>>> > "DARPA wants to make [voice recognition/transcription]
systems so
>>> > accurate, you'll be able to
easily record, transcribe and
recall all
>>> > the
>>> > conversations you ever have. ... Imagine living in a world
where every
>>> > errant utterance you make is
preserved forever. ... DARPA
[awarded
>>> > U.Texas comp sci researcher Matt
Lease]... $300,000... over
two years
>>> > to
>>> > study the new project, called "Blending Crowdsourcing with
Automation
>>> > for Fast, Cheap, and Accurate
Analysis of Spontaneous Speech.""
>>> >
>>> > "The idea is that business meetings or even conversations
with your
>>> > friends and family could be
stored in archives and easily
searched.
>>> > The
>>> > stored recordings could be held in servers, owned either by
>>> > individuals
>>> > or their employers. ... The answer, Lease says, is in
widespread use
>>> > of
>>> > recording technologies like smartphones, cameras and audio
>>> > recorders...
>>> > [A] memorandum from the Congressional Research Service
described [an
>>> > earlier DARPA project of this
type known as] EARS, as
focusing on
>>> > speech
>>> > picked up from broadcasts and telephone conversations, "as
well as
>>> > extract clues about the identity
of speakers" for "the
military,
>>> > intelligence and law enforcement
communities.""
>>> >
>>> > http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2013/03/darpa-speech/ (Yes,
"real
>>> > geeks
>>> > don't read Wired," but nonetheless its news pages are
useful for
>>> > keeping
>>> > a finger on the pulse of Big Brother and his corporate
Brethren.)
>>> >
>>> > In short:
>>> >
>>> > DARPA is researching the means by which every conversation
you have,
>>> > in-person, whether at work or
with family or friends, gets
picked up
>>> > by
>>> > the mic in your smartphone or other portable device, and
stored on a
>>> > server, where DARPA's
algorithms and human editors turn all
of it into
>>> > fast-searchable text, that could
be used by your employer, the
>>> > military,
>>> > law enforcement, and intel agencies. Presumably the credit
bureaus,
>>> > insurance companies, and
financial institutions will want
"in" on the
>>> > data as well.
>>> >
>>> > Now connect that with this, about cell-site tracking and
call
detail
>>> > records:
>>> >
>>> > "The government maintained [that] Americans have no
expectation of
>>> > privacy of such cell-site
records [call detail records or
CDR] because
>>> > they are in the possession of a
third party --- the mobile
phone
>>> > companies."
>>> >
>>> >
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/03/gps-drug-dealer-retrial/
>>> >
>>> > The key point is that the gov's current position is that
data stored
>>> > on
>>> > a third party's servers have "no expectation of privacy."
What begins
>>> > with CDR will eventually include
voicemail messages stored
on the
>>> > mobile
>>> > phone companies' servers, and then eventually all of your live
>>> > in-person
>>> > conversations that are stored "in the cloud."
>>> >
>>> > "Anything you say can and will be used against you..." Mark
my words.
>>> >
>>> > Meanwhile people keep using gmail and Google Voice, and
smartphones
>>> > from
>>> > which they can't remove the batteries. Because nothing is more
>>> > important
>>> > than "convenience," right?
>>> >
>>> > As a character in a sci-fi piece I wrote in the mid-1980s
said, "Why
>>> > put
>>> > a person in prison, when you can put prison in the person
instead?"
>>> >
>>> > -G.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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