Re: [sudo-discuss] hacker schools discussion

industrialization of education - obscuring the intrinsic value of knowledge and showing the way forward so that the technicians will know which direction to pull the carts Jan 31, 2014 07:54:22 AM, romy(a)snowyla.com wrote: FYI: I know a lot of the people running the hacker schools and who have graduated from them. I think most of these schools are legit, but I'm wondering if that is because it is due to the location (SF Bay Area) and the very high talent pool here. >None of these bootcamps claims to replace a university education, they are offering a very different thing. >I'm spooked by people who would advocate replacing an education with vocational bootcamps. I don't see these bootcamps competing with computer science departments at universities. >I can see a lot of potential abuse occurring as well: >1997 New Yorker article on the University of Phoneix, a for-profit institution:http://www.newyorker.com/archive/1997/10/20/1997_10_20_114_TNY_… >>>>Message: 10 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 18:22:50 -0800 From: Pete Forsyth peteforsyth(a)gmail.comTo: GtwoG PublicOhOne g2g-public01(a)att.netCc: Sudo room sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.orgSubject: Re: [sudo-discuss] "learn to code" events subject to full-WTF         scale crackdown...any ideas? Message-ID:         Gw4mLX9DdVxkcSNR2iEsksf1okHOKbpuKD=-Zg(a)mail.gmail.comContent-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I think Sudo Room has a stake in the existence of effective hacker-training programs, regardless of whether they are offered *by* Sudo Room. So, thanks Hol for posting the link. I agree with GtwoG that there is some possibility for abuse; but neither the article nor the agency's web site offer a concise presentation of what it means to "be in compliance". Is the agency throwing up regulations that will deter good work? It's hard to tell! I posted this to a couple email lists in the Wikipedia space, so check out these discussions too if interested: * http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/gendergap/2014-January/thread.html * http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-sf/2014-January/thread.html -Pete peteforsyth.com >============================= >Romy Ilanoromy(a)snowyla.com >_______________________________________________ >sudo-discuss mailing list >sudo-discuss(a)lists.sudoroom.org >http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss