21 Apr
2022
21 Apr
'22
11:16 a.m.
Hey Cere,
Awesome! — and yes, I agree that the quotes were just for temporary brainstorming. Thanks
for removing them.
I feel that we should retain the part about "foster and expand innovation and
creativity” because it gives some specificity as to _how_ we envision the improvement of
our community to be actualized.
That is basically an attempt to summarize this section:
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Bylaws#Article_3._Purpose
I added that back, but kept the rest of your changes. What do you think?
Eric
On Apr 21, 2022, at 09:20, Cere Misc
<cere.misc(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Eric,
Thanks for those edits. After suggesting curiosity, I failed to include it in my own
draft (lol) as it didn't quite make as much sense as I thought given the rest of what
I wrote down. It's a big change from what you proposed, so I hope at least some of it
speaks to you.
I like the idea of having the quotes to brainstorm new writing but I worried about
keeping them around as appeals to authority which might get us off on the wrong foot from
an anarchist or cultural diversity perspective so I removed it from my draft.
https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=About&type=revision&…
<https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=About&type=revision&diff=11882&oldid=11880>
In the end, there is less written but I was sort of aiming for brevity anyway.
Hope it's helpful.
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 4:58 PM Eric O'Connor <eric(a)oco.nnor.org
<mailto:eric@oco.nnor.org>> wrote:
That makes sense.
I just made an edit to revise to emphasize curiosity more — and included some quotes from
famous people talking about it. Maybe we can rephrase those statements and make that our
own?
Let me know what you think
https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=About&type=revision&…
<https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=About&type=revision&diff=11880&oldid=11879>
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/About <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/About>
Eric
On Apr 21, 2022, at 07:15, Cere Misc
<cere.misc(a)gmail.com <mailto:cere.misc@gmail.com>> wrote:
The verb "curiosity" seems really central to me in terms of vision and values
(but esp vision). But I am struggling to propose exactly how that could be worded. If
others feel similarly, maybe something on that could be added.
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 9:02 AM Eric O'Connor via sudo-discuss
<sudo-discuss(a)sudoroom.org <mailto:sudo-discuss@sudoroom.org>> wrote:
I made this page to try to address "statement of intent":
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/About <https://sudoroom.org/wiki/About>
It is not complete, and still includes noisebridge links because most of this is
copy-paste.
Please review/change it?
Eric
On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, at 21:50, Jenny Ryan via sudo-discuss wrote:
Agreed!
On 4/17/22 06:04, Cere Misc wrote:
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One way I would describe openness is: genuine (non-antagonizing) curiosity. That is, not
weaponizing curiosity as a "just asking questions" antagonistic rhetorical
strategy.
It seems easy to point to examples of "closedness" once we've encountered
instances of them. By contrast, openness is weirdly hard to describe without referencing
closedness.
(sorry. philosophy is just where my head goes these days)
1) openness to sharing knowledge [whilst avoiding obnoxious mansplaining and
acronym-everything, sharing and asking in turn, spirit of co-learning - we all can learn
from each other, of course];
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