4 May
2013
4 May
'13
9:01 p.m.
Let's start a cuddle porn company.
On May 4, 2013 8:38 PM, "GtwoG PublicOhOne" <g2g-public01(a)att.net> wrote:
Romy & Yo's-
For me, a picture of two guys holding hands is sexy, but a picture of two
guys smooching it up is, ...naah, too overdone. It's all about leaving 98%
to the imagination. Though, the usual advertising context of "affluently
surrounded by expensive lifestyle" is a turn-off either way.
Re. Tom Cruise: Scientology meets pedophilia and flirts with the incest
taboo! (Even if they're legal adults, "half his age" still suggests two
obvious forms of something less than consensual.) Sorry to hear you were
subjected to that on a date.
There's something to be said for Soviet Realism style erotica (and I say
this with tongue only half-way in cheek). A gal in a tight sweater sitting
at the controls of a gleaming new tractor! A guy in factory overalls
holding a spanner at a suggestive angle! Each with their bookbag near at
hand, a volume with a red cover peeking out from under the flap! In a very
real way these images are more empowering than the current popular images
of idle consumers: they were first and foremost _workers_, whose masculine
and feminine strengths stood with their roles as producers.
Though also in a very real way, they were subject to a kind of
exploitation that, if anything, was more naked and raw (though by no means
in an erotic way) than what we face today. The Party gave orders, Google
and Facebook merely give "suggestions." The KGB installed secret
surveillance devices, today people eagerly buy them as trendy conveniences
and carry them everywhere. The fact that people comply with the
"suggestions" in so many subtle ways, and happily pay a monthly fee to be
spied upon, only shows that the velvet glove does wonders for the powers of
the iron fist. And iron fists, with or without velvet gloves, definitely
aren't sexy.
-G.
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On 13-05-04-Sat 6:55 PM, Romy Ilano wrote:
yeah, what can we do to get any erotic event balanced, so that 50% of
the content shows half-naked men, stuff that would appeal to straight women
and homosexual men?
Why does porn/ erotic material always have to show the naked female
body? to me, as an artist who has drawn the nude form and has worked in
business selling a lot of content from porn industry companies exploiting
women (even Vivid) ... women's bodies are so boring, so played out and
uninteresting.
Depicting men's bodies is much more edgy, subversive and fun and should
ideally make up 50% of the content.
+1 for safe sex!
I had to endure this godawful film with Tom Cruise as a love interest
last week to two women half his age. I wanted to vomit halfway through the
movie. And it was on a date too! ugh!
On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 6:41 PM, GtwoG PublicOhOne <g2g-public01(a)att.net>wrote;wrote:
Romy & Yo's-
Re. "womens' bodies with their faces cut off."
Wow. Thanks for pointing that out. I never noticed that before (OTOH
attempts to do "sexy" in advertising generally don't get my attention),
but I vaguely recall seeing ads like that somewhere.
I agree, a torso minus a face is depersonalizing and objectifying as
hell, unless there's a very good reason for taking a photo that way
(e.g. medical contexts). Being looked at "that way" produces the creepy
feeling that the looker's intentions are non-consensual.
The only borderline-legit reason I could see for doing it in clothing
ads is, "we want you to imagine yourself wearing this, and we don't want
to risk putting you off by showing a face that's substantially different
to yours, so imagine your face on this person's body." But it would be
foolish to think that's what's intended every time that photographic
method is used.
This brings up the question of what people find sexy in photography.
For me (gay male), a photo minus a face is a non-starter: there's no cue
for communication with the person. Nudes in general don't do it either:
all the usual contextual cues as to someone's personality are missing,
so why would I even begin to imagine being in an intimate context with
someone I don't really know? I've always felt that way but now we have
the HIV pandemic to reinforce it: in general it's not a good idea to get
intimate with someone you don't know very well, because the outcome
could be a life-threatening illness.
For that matter, now that massively-drug-resistant gonorrhea is loose in
the USA, which is hella' easier to catch than HIV and can kill you in a
matter of days through a raging bacterial infection, it's probably a
darn good idea for everyone to "get smart & play safe" ALL the time,
zero exceptions, even more so than with HIV. In which case photography
that portrays an objectified sexuality without communications isn't just
gross and exploitative, it's a public health hazard that reinforces
attitudes that put people at risk for their lives.
-G.
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On 13-05-04-Sat 10:34 AM, Romy Snowyla wrote:
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It's interesting to me how porn a
Nd erotica always advertise with women's bodies with their faces cut off
American apparel digs this etc
Lots of art theory discusses this
I would love for any Sudo room event to break the mold and show men's
bodies
in any erotic theme as well ... Also would love to see the male body
as the focus of any erotic film or dance to balance out the Imbalance and
unnatural obsession with t and a we see on the porn industry
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