So you're saying we should not run the SEM while
the giant Tesla coil
right next to it is running, right? :-D
I know there are at least two other hacker EM's in the Bay Area - Ithink
Miloh has one, and there is/was a second at Noisebridge that may or may not
be in storage somewhere at the moment. Could someone who knows more about
these other machines post their specs (and potential availability)?
Are there particular types of EM's that are more forgiving in terms of
environmental conditions and user friendliness? How does this Jeol machine
compare to the others in this regard?
Patrik
On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 8:55 AM, CindyB <notcindybnot(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Environmental vibration and EMI will limit the
ability of whatever
scanning electron, confocal or scanning tunneling system you put in the
building. Look for the environmental vibration specs of the equipment you
want to consider. For example:
http://fbodaily.com/archive/2004/09-September/02-Sep-2004/FBO-00661968.htm
It's a bit of an ugly format but a bit down the page is a list of frequency
and magnitude limits under which the JEOL 6400 system operates to spec and
defines proper vibration isolation. The high magnification systems may not
be able to have sufficient vibration isolation without a very expensive
facilities upgrade depending on the floor underpinnings. Trains, motor
vehicles on nearby roads and possibly even people walking in the building
can transmit vibration that limits the ultimate resolution.
Likewise, clean power is essential. Power line conditioning that removes
unspec'd frequencies is required or you will never get the system stable
enough to hold focus to image or analyze. At least in the past, JEOL was
not that good at making their system fit into less than stellar laboratory
conditions. Likewise, you will want to be careful about through-the-air
electromagnetic interference from things like power lines, etc. The 60Hz
frequency from power lines throws a magnetic field through the air that
will generate a beat pattern in the images. This will limit the minimum
accelerating voltage you can use without interference.
Next to the Tesla coil? A Tesla coil creates a magnetic field which will
be transmitted through the air to interfere with the electron beam of the
SEM. Other things that throw off magnetic fields like transformers,
anything that spins or vibrates deliberately like vortexer, centrifuge,
orbiters, etc. will throw off magnetic fields, too.
Environmental and power considerations are going to make or break the
ability of CCL to effectively use the JEOL SEM in the lab.
I suppose you might wonder why I would know about SEMs and environmental
considerations. One of the areas I worked in at Intel was the replacement
of optical critical dimension measurement with SEM critical dimension
measurement inside a semiconductor manufacturing facility. We implemented
JEOL, Nanometrics and ultimately Hitachi SEM systems. JEOL and Nanometrics
were very sensitive to the environment we placed the systems. Hitachi much
less so.
If you can come across a Hitachi SEM you _might_ be able to make it work
in the CCL environment. JEOL SEMs can be very good systems placed in a good
clean, vibration isolated location. It will be very difficult (maybe
impossible) to get sufficiently useful images or beam control for
analytical reasons without such conditions.
Cindy
On Monday, December 22, 2014 7:05:22 PM UTC-8, patrikd wrote:
Awesome! Forwarding to CCL as well...
Patrik
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Jake <ja...(a)spaz.org> wrote:
We have been offered a scanning electron
microscope. I have accepted
and marc and I will go get it if it's still available.
I don't know if it has a spectral detector for EDS, but I got one at
Urban Ore yesterday for $25, so we can add that functionality if it
doesn't already have it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy-dispersive_X-ray_spectroscopy
this picture was taken with a SEM like the one we're getting:
http://microscopy.tamu.edu/picture-of-the-month/PoM_708.jpg/image_large
here is what the machine probably looks like, based on a google search
of Jeol JSM 6400
https://engineering.purdue.edu/MSE/Research/Facilities/XRayF
acility/Microstructural/Microstructural/6400_SEM.jpg
we can put it on the border / neutral zone between sudoroom and CCL
like the CSAM and tesla coil.
-jake
---------- Forwarded message ----------
So, yeah, I can potentially grab a Jeol JSM 6400. You should look at
pics. It is fairly large.
Right now it is in Santa Barbara. I don't have a good plan for moving
it, or putting it somewhere (hopefully where
people can use it). The company that bought it was told it works when
they bought it, but they never tested it. I
should note that I am talking to a few people and I'm hoping one of
them works out.
I would need to get it Jan 19-20.
Does this still interest you?
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